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High Sec POCO stupidity.

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Zvaarian the Red
Evil Leprechaun Brigade
#301 - 2013-11-23 11:47:55 UTC
It's worth pointing out that super high taxes may well be designed to ward others off as a planet's resources are reduced overall by large numbers of PI-ers.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#302 - 2013-11-24 03:50:51 UTC
So wait, Goons are actually not trolling Highsec with huge tax rates, and are setting decent taxes to encourage people to use them?

You know, I kinda respect that.

Katrina Oniseki

Professor Clio
Apocalypse Lancers
#303 - 2013-11-24 04:13:30 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
So wait, Goons are actually not trolling Highsec with huge tax rates, and are setting decent taxes to encourage people to use them?

You know, I kinda respect that.



Its like they are rational beings trying to make a bit of money without driving the customers away. Weird eh?
mynnna
State War Academy
Caldari State
#304 - 2013-11-24 17:13:33 UTC  |  Edited by: mynnna
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
So wait, Goons are actually not trolling Highsec with huge tax rates, and are setting decent taxes to encourage people to use them?

You know, I kinda respect that.


When it suits us, we can behave as legitimate businesspeople. This is definitely a case where it suits us. We get a nice income out of setting fair tax rates that encourage people to use (or continue to use) our customs offices, and besides, the tears coming from people who rage out at the mere idea of us owning some small part of highsec are far sweeter than anything we'd get from people complaining about huge tax rates. It's win/win, really.

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Theodoric Darkwind
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#305 - 2013-11-24 23:08:50 UTC
Protovarious wrote:
Vena Saris wrote:
I just need to remind everyone, people are mad about the taxes being 5% gsf 5%npc corp. Default Interbus is 10%.


Literally nothing has changed except for people who are -10 to goonswarm.

Sooooo...let me see if I have this right.

Pay Interbus, a magical fairy corp that makes isk go poof from the game when you give it to them...

Or give Goons money...

Hey, I'm all for taking advantage of stupid people, but I think you'll find a nice population of capsuleers that would just assume give their isk to the Interbus fairy.

Would do my heart good, just sayin. Lol


Or you can go blow up the goon POCOs and put your own up.
Dreistein
T.R.I.A.D
Ushra'Khan
#306 - 2013-11-25 21:03:35 UTC
can't wait to see the statistics of destroyed POCO's at next fanfest :-)

I bet they will present this, together with other interesting stuff at 9:00am the day after pubcrawl
LittleTerror
Stygian Systems
#307 - 2013-11-25 21:05:17 UTC
Torigoma wrote:
Ok, I've started to see people set up customs offices in High sec with taxes a t 80-90%.


Good, it will create more explosions.
Skill Training Online
Doomheim
#308 - 2013-11-26 00:10:37 UTC
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ISD Alliance
#309 - 2013-11-26 00:20:33 UTC
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#310 - 2013-11-27 19:59:49 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
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Rita Riddick
Doomheim
#311 - 2013-11-29 15:44:08 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
So wait, Goons are actually not trolling Highsec with huge tax rates, and are setting decent taxes to encourage people to use them?

You know, I kinda respect that.

I suspect that you're a Goonie™ alt or just ignorant to the "ways of the World".

Like any Government or local drug dealer it's only a matter of time before they increase the tax rate.

Once people "think" that the Goonies™ are being fair and it's an affordable rate, they move their operation to said system.

After they get it up and running, BOOM! Up goes the tax rate.

Well, it's only x%, not really that big a deal and it would cost move to move, yadday, yaddya, yadda...

~The problem with Goonswarm, is that it's full of BoB/Goons/RvB~

Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#312 - 2013-11-29 15:59:50 UTC
Rita Riddick wrote:
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
So wait, Goons are actually not trolling Highsec with huge tax rates, and are setting decent taxes to encourage people to use them?

You know, I kinda respect that.

I suspect that you're a Goonie™ alt or just ignorant to the "ways of the World".

Like any Government or local drug dealer it's only a matter of time before they increase the tax rate.

Once people "think" that the Goonies™ are being fair and it's an affordable rate, they move their operation to said system.

After they get it up and running, BOOM! Up goes the tax rate.

Well, it's only x%, not really that big a deal and it would cost move to move, yadday, yaddya, yadda...
Dumbest post yet.

At most they'd be able to squeeze a couple of percent, and if they did, chances are they would lose enough people to not make any extra.
Anyone that owns huge areas of pocos will always be better off setting competitive rates to ensure their use. If they raise it, after a certain point the cost to do PI outweighs the potential PI profit based on market averages. I imagine that both RVB and Goons will remain on a 5% tax rate for the forseeable future.

While in theory they could spike the rates occasionally to steer market prices, they would need to do that on a large scale. The fact that you have to edit each poco by hand would make that take a considerable amount of time to do, probably too much time to make it worthwhile.

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Pinky Hops
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#313 - 2013-11-29 16:02:54 UTC
if you don't like or want goons owning POCO's....

here's a new idea:

SHOOT THE POCO UNTIL IT DIES

Pirate

problem solved. people really need to man up.
Rita Riddick
Doomheim
#314 - 2013-11-29 16:17:30 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Dumbest post yet.

At most they'd be able to squeeze a couple of percent, and if they did, chances are they would lose enough people to not make any extra.
Anyone that owns huge areas of pocos will always be better off setting competitive rates to ensure their use. If they raise it, after a certain point the cost to do PI outweighs the potential PI profit based on market averages. I imagine that both RVB and Goons will remain on a 5% tax rate for the forseeable future.

While in theory they could spike the rates occasionally to steer market prices, they would need to do that on a large scale. The fact that you have to edit each poco by hand would make that take a considerable amount of time to do, probably too much time to make it worthwhile.

Obviously you don't understand the, "Goonie™ Philosophy".

There are many flavors of manipulation.

~The problem with Goonswarm, is that it's full of BoB/Goons/RvB~

Good Posting
Doomheim
#315 - 2013-11-29 16:25:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Good Posting
And who cares if they set the taxes to 10000%. PI is one of the most tedious things this game has anyway. "But they will collect a lot of money to buy 50k SuperCaps!!!" Fine, let the braindead blobs (cfc, pl, nc... etc) enjoy their epic tidi fights.

I will continue playing eve as i want, but thanks for your concerns.

Oh and yes, i buy stuff too. I've lost a frigate in 4 months.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#316 - 2013-11-29 16:27:11 UTC
mynnna wrote:
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
So wait, Goons are actually not trolling Highsec with huge tax rates, and are setting decent taxes to encourage people to use them?

You know, I kinda respect that.


When it suits us, we can behave as legitimate businesspeople. This is definitely a case where it suits us. We get a nice income out of setting fair tax rates that encourage people to use (or continue to use) our customs offices, and besides, the tears coming from people who rage out at the mere idea of us owning some small part of highsec are far sweeter than anything we'd get from people complaining about huge tax rates. It's win/win, really.



With more tears coming from people who complain getting higher tax rates Smile

Woo! CSM XI!

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Cameron Zero
Sebiestor Tribe
#317 - 2013-11-29 16:33:31 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
mynnna wrote:
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
So wait, Goons are actually not trolling Highsec with huge tax rates, and are setting decent taxes to encourage people to use them?

You know, I kinda respect that.


When it suits us, we can behave as legitimate businesspeople. This is definitely a case where it suits us. We get a nice income out of setting fair tax rates that encourage people to use (or continue to use) our customs offices, and besides, the tears coming from people who rage out at the mere idea of us owning some small part of highsec are far sweeter than anything we'd get from people complaining about huge tax rates. It's win/win, really.



With more tears coming from people who complain getting higher tax rates Smile


Who'll then complain that they were right the whole time. RollBlink

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Rita Riddick
Doomheim
#318 - 2013-11-29 16:34:24 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
With more tears coming from people who complain getting higher tax rates Smile

So, you're telling us to stop complaining about high taxes AND to vote for you as CSM in the same post?

Brilliant!!!

~The problem with Goonswarm, is that it's full of BoB/Goons/RvB~

Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#319 - 2013-11-29 16:39:37 UTC
Rita Riddick wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
With more tears coming from people who complain getting higher tax rates Smile

So, you're telling us to stop complaining about high taxes AND to vote for you as CSM in the same post?

Brilliant!!!



Nope. Complain about high tax rates all you want.

I was specifically talking about people complaining about [insert group here] having tax rates from said group increased.

Not people complaining about high tax rates.

What, you expected me to be all 'Grr goons!'? They're in this for the isk, which means low tax rates to keep people using the planets. and there are /plenty/ of other planets out there.

Woo! CSM XI!

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Rita Riddick
Doomheim
#320 - 2013-11-29 16:48:19 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
What, you expected me to be all 'Grr goons!'? They're in this for the isk, which means low tax rates to keep people using the planets. and there are /plenty/ of other planets out there.

Wrong.

You're missing the, "Big Picture", but you're picking up all kinds of Goonie™ votes.

~The problem with Goonswarm, is that it's full of BoB/Goons/RvB~