EVE General Discussion

Hi guys.

Things are going reasonably well, we have had a couple of small corps join us down here and I am impressed. I'm looking forward to building relationships and moving Hub-Zero forward.

I can understand why lots of people don't want to come here for this venture as I can see some difficulty in organizing standings. I will say however that I will not play any standings games.

About a year ago I was allied with a group of guys who had come down here to dwell, things were going great. I had an old friend contact me to inform me that his corp was going to deploy nearby and the people who I was allied to were going to be targets. My old friend offered my corp blue standings which I refused, I wasn't going to do nothing while my friends get attacked. In the end they didn't come so I was able to avoid a tricky situation.

I will try very hard to ensure that any attack or threat against a Hub member will be viewed as an attack on the Hub community regardless of who carries out this attack, I'd like Hub-Zero membership to stand for something.

Once again, I urge the pilots of hi-sec not to miss out on this venture as it is very exciting and will renew your desire to play eve. If we can get a good team together you can have one of the best gaming experiences of your life. You'll be surprised at how much isk you can make with the right team. I want to be very clear that this venture could generate billions of isk per day which is not an exaggeration it is an accurate estimate. Stain is probably one of the richest areas in the universe, so come on guys and girls lets have a chat and get things moving.

erm, good plan with enemies that die once and don't return. Not so good with enemies that can return forever and don't mind dying at all.
Also: 6Y-0TW? For real? "Stain can be quite exciting for new players.." I'm not sure exciting is the word, 40 jumps from HED-GP and an area where cynabals and stabber fleets troll around trashing anything that moves is exciting i guess.
I'm sure i could think of at least three places newbros could flap around npc null without getting more than 10 jumps from empire.
You wouldn't be inviting people to come and earn isk ratting in a captive market owned by, oh i don't know, you?

Providence works just fine as a NRDS zone, and would probably be a lot more populated if more people knew of it's existence as a NRDS zone. The project has a better chance of working of done within Provi , in my opinion.

It's certainly not 100% safe , but it's MUCH safer that Stain

Yeah please don't tell me what i fail to understand, i've been living in just that area for the last year, moved up near Torrinos after the CFC moved in.
Between there and FAT there's some mission running stations for blood raiders and the only people i know who go there are solo and small gang pvpers. Without a doubt if you bump the npc kills on the map you will draw the cloakers, gankers and hotdrop cynos depending on your willingness to fight or inability to not get killed.
Provi gets farmed because it's NRDS. Anything but NBSI is going to get you wasted.
Like i said earlier in the thread, I could help YOU with that, but it'd be a gamble to schlep out somewhere to find it's a hoax.

Torrinos is in Lonetrek and is the entry point into Pure Blind, which is where you have SOE and Mordu's NPC 0.0 space, this area gets camped by CFC, when they are not on deployment and of course gets roams and BLOPS on it because its so small, compare to Stain which is an entire region, the Blood Raider space in Delve has the same issue, at the moment there is a lot of activity there, again close to low sec/ high sec. I have operated out of NPC Delve, and was invited to SOE area by FA at one point as long as my group gave them fightsl.

NRDS definately is something that makes them more vulnerable, but if people continue farming when a neutral comes in then more fool them, NRDS requires a proactive approach to setting reds and sensible attitudes to neutrals. The difference between us and them is that neutrals are seen as a threat, but they are not actively hunted if they are in say a scanning ship, or running sites etc., the trick is to watch the space and what people do. Now if I see one in a covert ops dropping combat probes, that person is deemed a threat. Providence also gets dropped on because its a smaller less powerful organisation yet has a lot of targets.

Everything is a gamble in Eve, its very easy to scam people, however some of us play it up front without the need for such play, meta gaming billions by scamming a corp or alliance is easy, doing something like this is not, its a challenge and more fun.

Hi Aaron, remember me?

It's really hard to maintain such an organization outside of alliance formula. CCP doesn't give you too many tools to manage standings and those they do are somewhat limited. My advise: make an alliance. Good luck.

Even when attempted with the alliance structure, the NRDS economic community concept failed. Cooperative hubs were attempted long ago. They crumbled under the weight of bigger organizations with substantially less evolved goals.

Furthermore, this reeks of bait. Pretty much everything along these lines has proved to be a scam or killbox scenario, so, good luck with all that. I hope this brings you more success than your info ransom bid.

Hi,

I can't talk about this very much on a public forum. Intel is one way of maintaining security, knowing your enemy and what they fly, who their accomplices are, where they are based, if they are online. If we can get all this info on possible threats to the Hub we will at least know what were up against and then devise a plan to combat it. This all depends on how many people want to come down and help out. Dracvlad and myself have analysed lots of battles and fleets, and we are very good at PVP fights in this scenario.

Myself and a couple of friends used to fly assault/faction frigs we were able to fly around easily and do lots of belt ratting. We started off doing this when the enemies camped the stations, then we decided to permanently fly frigs with cloaks on them. We would cloak up and log off anywhere we chose, and earn lots of isk from bounties and loot sales. I found it a great experience because we didn't lose a single ship due to our ability to stay under the radar.

It's about adapting to your environment until such a time when we can build trust with like-minded people and build a PVP fleet equal to those attacking us.

Also, if we can follow the BSWF (Be Sensible While Flying) policy this will limit ship loss. I've posted a revised summary;

- Reporting any neutral or red in intel channels
- Paying attention to intel channels
- Getting safe when advised or when a neutral comes in your system
- if they appear hostile fleet up and shoot them
- Before Docking or Jumping through a gate warp to an off grid bookmark and scan for warp bubbles
- Use a warp to 0 bookmark on your station
- Use insta undock bookmarks
- Use cheap scout ships when transporting expensive loads

Stain really isn't as bad as you think, most of the people around here have a low patience level so in lots of cases its just about cloaking up, staying away from station dock, and 10 minutes time they are bored and you're on your way to go back to what you was doing.

I tend to dwell in systems that have no station, my guns are lasers so i never really need to reload and I also have a cloak on my ship, I can't remember the last time I docked.

I look forward to chatting again if this is something that interests you.

Regards,

And here we have a douche from Local-Spike trying to be smart and failing miserably, like always!