These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE General Discussion

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

Invitation To 0.0 ( - Destiny - )

First post First post
Author
Aaron
Eternal Frontier
#581 - 2014-04-19 18:14:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Aaron
flakeys wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
flakeys wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Currently I am suffering from a lack of interest in Eve, the issue was the coming heavy nerf to the refining of loot, I wanted to train Scrapmetal to level 5 and realised that I had to train two level 3 skills to 5, which really annoyed me, hell I won;t be finished until 27th May on this rubbish, though I am betting that CCP will make this scrapmetal skill easier for newer players, but decided that I could not afford to risk waiting for that change. So rather than log on and fume over the injustice of this nerf.


If that is enough to get a lack of interest then i think it doesn't take much Shocked .


It got nerfed really badly, in effective you have to double the amount of ratting to produce the same, it is a nerf of 50%, which is a massive kick in the nuts, this is how independent players were getting their ships in NPC 0.0, we all know what happened to ninja mining don't we, and we all know what happened to specialist exploration runners, just add gun mining in NPC 0.0 to the list of niche casualties, now we have people with standings to setup hisec POS's, perhaps a vast number of hisec industy players who find having to move BPO's around kills their enjoyment to such a degree they drop out, who knows.

But the break did me a lot of good, those additional industrial changes I detailed above had no impact on my attitude at all, the break was good for me, the first real one since I started playing in 2009.

Your throw away comment was an attempt to look smart, it just made you look foolish...


If i wanted to look smart i'd post in the market discussion forum , not general discussion for starters as it mainly serves for trolling and chitchat .

As you yourself have provided evidence now that you have/had an eve burnout and are enjoying/enjoyed a break from eve after a long time - wich i btw can totally understand as we all need one from time to time - it only shows that my remark was right and it did/does not take much to throw you in a discontent of eve.Again undderstandable but still a fact in itself .

I'm not posting here to ''mock'' you i am posting an opinion based on what i read in an ''open discussion forum'' .If you consider that foolish then that is your freedom in here Blink .Though i might suggest for someone who wants to ''create an open nullworld'' to be a little less on the hostile side as a lot of your posts go about how Alliance X or Y in stain sucks and you seem to handle certain critique aimed to you or aaron badly , it does give a rather bad tag to the ''brand'' your selling.

Just an idea with wich your free to do as you please , though i'll guess it will get ''shot down '' as did one of my first remarks here got shot down by aaron when i said you needed to create an Alliance for your stain Freeworld to make it a lot easier and yet ... here we are 25ish pages further and you guys find out that having your own Alliance might be a good thing.

Still , as i said in one of my first comments i do wish you luck with it as it is a noble cause , but i also stated the reasons why i think it would fail.

Time will tell .



Flakeys, I was able to use the forum to search all responses you've posted on this forum and I can see clearly you're only here to troll.

Firstly the alliance is here for me and drac and possibly some old friends of ours that we have known since 2003, it is NOT for everyone coming down here in this current venture which is what you suggested.

The fact that you think Drac and I are selling a brand means you are unclear about what we are doing. Infact we are doing the exact opposite of selling a brand, we are selling independence, this is about having the freedom to prosper without joining the massive powerblocks that exist in the game.

The Hub needs pro-active people who do more than just say they are committed, It is important to get involved and it is infact the Eve Online community that will help make this a success not just Drac and I. Drac and I are just 2 guys doing our thing here and we have invited other folks to do the same and be blue to us. Yes I get that this will require some co-ordination to get certain tasks done but not management.

It seems that you are stuck in your Alliance/Corp/isk per hour mentality and you are finding it difficult to break free. This is a virtual world where we are able to do almost anything we want.

Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#582 - 2014-04-20 15:09:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
I don't often go hunting people, mainly because mostly its not really worth my time, however I did decide to go after this inane camper in our home system.

He was in a Magnate with a cloak, and he had placed some Mobile Depots in which he expressed his opinion of Hub Zero. You have to go through an observation stage first when you hunt people and that was made easier by the use of Mobile Depots, that gave him a vulnerability which I exploited. So after less than a week of hunting this cloaky camper, I got him.

The butt hurt in local was very very enjoyable...

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Aaron
Eternal Frontier
#583 - 2014-04-21 01:02:34 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
I don't often go hunting people, mainly because mostly its not really worth my time, however I did decide to go after this inane camper in our home system.

He was in a Magnate with a cloak, and he had placed some Mobile Depots in which he expressed his opinion of Hub Zero. You have to go through an observation stage first when you hunt people and that was made easier by the use of Mobile Depots, that gave him a vulnerability which I exploited. So after less than a week of hunting this cloaky camper, I got him.

The butt hurt in local was very very enjoyable...



I wasn't able to get on today but this is welcome news Big smile

Well done there Drac mate, I'm pretty sure the community appreciates your hard work.

This just goes to show that it does pay off to simply watch and study your enemy and have a solid plan for killing them. PVP in 0.0 can be different and difficult. I'm almost certain the camper will come back and I am also certain Drac will study him, find a flaw in his tactic and kill him again.

Another small victory for Hub Zero.

Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#584 - 2014-04-21 10:05:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
Aaron wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
I don't often go hunting people, mainly because mostly its not really worth my time, however I did decide to go after this inane camper in our home system.

He was in a Magnate with a cloak, and he had placed some Mobile Depots in which he expressed his opinion of Hub Zero. You have to go through an observation stage first when you hunt people and that was made easier by the use of Mobile Depots, that gave him a vulnerability which I exploited. So after less than a week of hunting this cloaky camper, I got him.

The butt hurt in local was very very enjoyable...



I wasn't able to get on today but this is welcome news Big smile

Well done there Drac mate, I'm pretty sure the community appreciates your hard work.

This just goes to show that it does pay off to simply watch and study your enemy and have a solid plan for killing them. PVP in 0.0 can be different and difficult. I'm almost certain the camper will come back and I am also certain Drac will study him, find a flaw in his tactic and kill him again.

Another small victory for Hub Zero.


I did not get his pod, when I caught him I had Dracvlad a couple of jumps away so I stopped shooting him so I could get Dracvlad back there to make sure, however he realised and ejected, I expected him to do this and was ready, I locked up his pod and tried to disengage the scram on the ship but it had just started the next cycle, so even though I locked the pod, he warped just as the scram finished its cycle, which was damn close, was bad luck, but that is how it goes. However he spent the rest of the day AFK in the station.

The flaws in his tactics and attitude are in fact still there.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#585 - 2014-04-24 11:13:37 UTC
Having proved a point to the mouthy camper in 6Y, I have now turned my piercing stare on Unforgiving.

TL is a nice system in terms of belts, there are a lot of them and its a big system, Stain Empire was routinely camping this system and their camper was a little bit more difficult to be certain on, though I think I had worked out his active times to a certain degree, but he does seem to be able to do more at times of the days that you would hope he is AFK. But now comes the fun part, Unforgiving parked a cloaky camper in TL. After a while it was the Stain Empire and the Unforgiving camper camping each other out, which was quite amusing, so eventually the Stain Empire camper realised this and headed to B-G which is the level 4 mission system. And there he spent most of his time, however as Southern Federation have come back to Stain and they do not have blue status with Stain Empire this causes some interesting movements, currently the Stain Empire camper is in E7 camping a STFU character who was ratting in a Macherial.

Back to TL, I know who the main is of the camper in TL, I have already studied his time and know when he is active, so this camper is actually helping me by keeping the Stain Empire one focused elsewhere, as a result I can now rat in that system in total security in certain periods, thank you Unforgiving for your unknowing (until you read this) assistance... I shall rename you guys ultraforgiving, lol.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Aaron
Eternal Frontier
#586 - 2014-05-01 19:40:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Aaron
Hello People,

Sorry I haven't checked in for a while.

Things are going well here and I am very impressed with our progress. It's great to be here and I am really looking forward to securing this area. We are well on the way to getting to know one another and we have developed a great level of trust.

An old friend of mine has rejoined Eve and the Hub and is taking care of the mining side of things.

The constellation to the east of us is under attack by HOD and Southern Federation. It is a determined attack involving lots of hostiles all camping each system making it impossible for anyone to operate there. Maybe they will use the constellation as a staging point to carry out attacks on Hub Zero, we will have to wait and see.

The Hub is still open to people who like this concept and want to take part as there is still work to be done on our economy and security. I'll always be here doing what I do, and will welcome any cool people.

This really is it guys, were almost there, a cool part of null-sec open to the good guys from hi-sec.

Regards,

Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#587 - 2014-05-03 09:49:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
The previous Friday I had a little fun, where I took on a -A- gang that came in for some fun against us, I made an error in taking too long on my second account so that I was too late in clicking the ASB and lost my Vaga, we all make mistakes and that was a costly one in that I lost that engagement in terms of ISK, but I enjoyed it immensely and enjoyed blowing up three AF's of very old and skilled players who thought that Hub-Zero were a load of noobs. They came back this Friday and they included a Kitsune, I thought that they would bring an ECM ship next time as they like to have a perfect victory and it was amusing to see that I got that right, but what surprised me is that they came in with 9 people. Needless to say I decided not to engage, it also did not help that my connection has been a bit flakey recently, and dropped when I was part of a fleet bubbling up a STFU BLOP's gang in a station after they had hot dropped. What amused me most of all however was that the Jaguar pilot who had fallen for the bait Maller seemed a bit butthurt, but that is Eve.

Sometime ago I suggested that CCP make a T2 version of the Venture with a covert ops cloak, imagine my delight when CCP did just that. Just recently I have been rather annoyed with CCP over the nerf to reprocessing and the increase in fuel costs, even though I understand why they did it, and agree with them, though the nerf to reprocessing was to take away the extra materials and the increase in fuel was to prevent null sec dominating hisec markets, it was still a massive kick in the nuts to me and my group. So I am taking steps to mitigate the impacts, starting with changing from the Rhea to the Ark, because that has cheaper fuel and fuel that I can mine myself in hisec without mucking around elsewhere. But I have to say that the Prospect has put a damn big smile on my face, thank you CCP Big smile We have a BLOP's capability and this will be a nice way to move around.

We can see that Coven lost their space because we have suddenly seen an influx of Coven into our area, not that they bother me too much, but what is evident is that Stain will be busy with lots of displaced sov holders reforming their beaten and battered alliances, however it does seem that they are not being totally left alone by NCDOT. and co, so we are going to help in giving them a damn good spanking if they get to uppity.

Recently I commented on Noir's rather stupid scam on Gevlon Goblin, Noir were an impressive merc group that had up until this event a certain amount of respect from me as a merc outfit, and I had pushed a few people their way for merc work that involved more than just hisec. However following on from their actions with Gevlon Goblin I will no longer suggest them as reputable mercs, some times when people try to be too clever they shoot themselves in the foot, this is one of those events. EDIT: One replied to my post on their thread and admitted that mistakes were made on both sides, I respect the honesty of that reply.

We are presently seeing more hostiles in our area, this is how it goes in Stain, but we are here for the long haul, we know that some people will have an issue with this and drift away, but it does not faze us, if you want to control an area you have to hang tough and that is what we will do.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#588 - 2014-05-04 09:32:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Dracvlad
Well another fun day, was not really around much during the day, but did get to do something later on in the day, the first was a Hand of Despair Thorax which I wanted to solo with my second account in his Maller of doom, I did fire one shot with a Hyperion on Dracvlad which missed, because I thought he was disengaging and was trying to dock up, but stopped when I realised that was not the case.

Later on one of our members pointed a YaRRR and co Typhoon, it was an obvious trap but what the hell, I went in with Darin in the Maller and Dracvlad in a Tempest, the Maller arrived first and I scrammed and webbed the Typhoon, the other player was doing a great job in his SFI and was taking it down. I arrived with Dracvlad, I had barrage loaded and aligned back to the station targetted the Typhoon and let fly, then a NCDOT. alt Rapier de-cloaked, I have no idea why he did that, because they did not drop, however I decided to get Dracvlad out just as another 4 YaRRR and co jumped in to the system. I decided to keep at it with the Maller, as did the other player with his SFI and the Typhoon died as one of them arrived, I could have got it out at that point but scrammed and webbed that Typhoon hoping the SFI would be able to get out, sadly another pointed him just as he was about to warp, then more arrived and the Maller was pointed. And at last the Maller was dead, that ship had got me 15 kills on Darin and was an excellent fit which I lifted from a guy called Nokia who I killed once, I name all such Mallers in honor of that guy as it is a stonking fit for getting the drop on people. RIP my brave bait Maller you did me proud...

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
#589 - 2014-05-04 10:12:40 UTC
I should pay a visit at some point.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#590 - 2014-05-04 12:12:31 UTC
Liafcipe9000 wrote:
I should pay a visit at some point.


If you are a gankbear we will find it rather amusing, before making any more statements you should perhaps study the location a bit closer and note the lack of a medical service within 17 jumps though multiple gate camps, also understand that we also control the market. This is not like hisec, here you will really have to work for your kills and your supplies and you have people like me who hunt the hunters, maybe you will find that fun, most don't. Amusingly we had one turn up, realise there was no med facility and no easy way to replace ships and modules so he leftt without shooting a single thing. Lol

I see quite a few ganks in your kill board, but also some impressive solo kills, so I cannot define you as a out and out gankbear. Question

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Aaron
Eternal Frontier
#591 - 2014-05-06 00:16:00 UTC
I've got some issues regarding supply of minerals to Hub Zero.

What I am looking for is a group of adventurous miners that understand they will be operating in 0.0.

The objective of the Hub is to set-up an economy out here in Stain and secure the area. The good people who are involved in this area should note that it is going to be difficult for the initial group of guys who want to help out. It is very important to consider changing your play style a little bit.

Say for example you operate here in systems that have stations, for the initial part of this you may have to look at operating in systems with no station as they are rarely camped, I am afraid things will be like this for a while. I know the playstyle where people can adapt is not for everyone and I respect this. I am appealing to the people who know how to adapt.

With regard to mining I'd like to know if there's a group capable of mining in 0.0 and understanding the fact that if no mining is done out here then Hub Zero will somewhat suffer, we need miners who are selfless and care about Hub Zero just as much as their own wallet and their levels of efficiency. I know I'm driving a hard bargin here but I feel it is this attitude that is required to make sure the Hub Zero engine does not stall.

I look at things in a simple way, all I see is that we have mining bonus ships, we have systems that are clear almost 100% of the time, and we have lots of ratters to keep the belts clear......So, why don't we have any miners?

I'm interested in your thoughts.

Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie

Orions Lord
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#592 - 2014-05-08 13:07:33 UTC
Liafcipe9000 wrote:
I should pay a visit at some point.


You are more then welcome.

I am surprised we have a lot of pilots atm already.
You can jumpclone your alt here and do your thing and when you get bored return to other stuff.

The logistic is difficult but we are getting there it takes some time to get used to the environment.

I was becoming a bit bored and in stain I actual play the game again.






Aaron
Eternal Frontier
#593 - 2014-05-09 16:37:05 UTC
Hey Guys,

I'd like to let the Eve Online community know that we would be happy to receive donations if that is something you wanted to do. My personal feeling is that this venture is for the community of Eve Online and any donations made out to us will be used to ensure there is a place in npc 0.0 where you can come and be safe.

I do not want to be perceived as a charity because this is a business. It makes proper business sense to invest in ventures that look out for the little guy and if this is done correctly there will be opportunities to make lots more isk.

There are lots of ways to donate, this includes using a toon to come down and take part in operations down here, or even comming on our TS3 server to chat.

Hub Zero is an exciting place and a great venture to be involved in. I don't think anyone has really managed to pull this off as yet and it feels great that Hub Zero has taken lots of steps in the right direction.

Let us embrace socialism in its truest sense, Let us carve out a section of space for ourselves and stand tall against the capitalists who would charge us extortionate isk just to exist.

Long live the revolution!

Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie

AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
#594 - 2014-05-09 16:57:41 UTC
I think there's a forum rule against begging, no?
Elmonky
Alternative Royal Dynamics
GameTheory
#595 - 2014-05-09 17:08:04 UTC
This is still going!? ShockedShocked

How have you all not been smeared across null in a series of pretty 'splosions? Question
Shivanthar
#596 - 2014-05-09 17:36:06 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Scatim Helicon wrote:
You certainly seem like a stable and well adjusted individual, I'm sure this endeavour will be a great success.

That said, Stain is pretty much the worst choice you could make for this due to the awful logistics situation. I'm assuming the only reason you'd choose it is so that any poor sucker that chooses to follow you down there cannot easily pack up and leave without abandoning their ships and other valuables.

Oh wow.....that thread is pure gold.

Also, stain is pretty decent for smaller entities. It's one jump from lowsec via jump freighter to Nrt (needs JC 5) or T-nn (JC4). T-nn is a kickout station where jump freighters go to die, so make sure you have JC 5 if your using a JF. Or just use a carrier and you have loads of options. The isk in stain is pretty decent. Stain Lvl 4's pay out 3-4x as much as hisec lvl 4s due to the higher value lp and whatnot. The truesec is also pretty good for anoms/exploration.


Thanks for that info. Lvl4 missioners are listening Bear

_Half _the lies they tell about me **aren't **true.

Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#597 - 2014-05-09 20:05:32 UTC
Aaron wrote:
Hey Guys,

I'd like to let the Eve Online community know that we would be happy to receive donations if that is something you wanted to do. My personal feeling is that this venture is for the community of Eve Online and any donations made out to us will be used to ensure there is a place in npc 0.0 where you can come and be safe.

I do not want to be perceived as a charity because this is a business. It makes proper business sense to invest in ventures that look out for the little guy and if this is done correctly there will be opportunities to make lots more isk.

There are lots of ways to donate, this includes using a toon to come down and take part in operations down here, or even comming on our TS3 server to chat.

Hub Zero is an exciting place and a great venture to be involved in. I don't think anyone has really managed to pull this off as yet and it feels great that Hub Zero has taken lots of steps in the right direction.

Let us embrace socialism in its truest sense, Let us carve out a section of space for ourselves and stand tall against the capitalists who would charge us extortionate isk just to exist.

Long live the revolution!

time for a state of the union address.

  - remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not  "afk" cloaking -

[IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/consultsig.jpg[/IMG]

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#598 - 2014-05-10 18:56:08 UTC
Elmonky wrote:
This is still going!? ShockedShocked

How have you all not been smeared across null in a series of pretty 'splosions? Question


Because of the various reasons I laid out in this thread, for the big boys we are not really easy and worthwhile going after, apart from the odd one who is hardly playing anyway, and in terms of gank bears, its just too difficult for them.

We are in deep Stain with multiple gate camps between us and hisec, the nearest Med station is 17 jumps from us, and we have deliberately not supplied the market with combat ships and modules. We have no important assets for people to shoot to force a fight, and we pick off less competent players who come here to farm us, while avoiding the more skilled ones who can escalate above us.

Chances of smearing us across NPC null are very very remote...

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#599 - 2014-05-10 19:37:15 UTC
Only selling to blues is very "sandboxy". Cool

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#600 - 2014-05-10 20:37:59 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Only selling to blues is very "sandboxy". Cool



Sure is, in my ammo and module container I have 5.02bn of ammo, rigs and modules, all people in Hub Zero have to do is mail me and detail what they need. Simple as, its a bit more painful to do then buying straight off of the market, however it prevents the wrong type of person taking advantage of us...

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp