EVE General Discussion

A "group of soloers" is an oxymoron.

You cannot cut off somethings head if it has no head. You cannot siege a base if there is no base to seige. You can't meta disband a disparate group like you could disband a cohesive group like BoB.

The strength the alliances have is a strength that only works against other like forces. An irregular force such as that proposed by Aaron is pretty much impossible to 'run off'. Sure you could take a blob to X system and sit there for a day but as soon as you leave things go back to normal.

If you have seen groups of soloers get run off its only because they were soloers and formed something together, thus no longer being soloers and becoming vulnerable.

+1

Also regarding getting into Stain. I sent a covert ops pilot down yesterday. I can get any BS or lower hull to Hub-Zero area in 2 jumps from high sec after mapping 3 X7 holes with high sec statics in the one constellation. Getting to null is trivial.

Two experienced pilots who think and act outside of the herd, telling it as it is, the majority of people I have met in space in Stain use WH's, and this is a very good way of getting here and doing logistics and the lame gank bears sitting at entry points can do nothing about it. One objective will be to create a team of people to find WH's and to facilitate their use by other members.

This week my objective is to sort out the Rhea, also if possible a Widow, the Widow is for bridging covert ops ships to a clone station, so that our pilots don't have to worry about there being no adjacent clone station to our base.

Yeah a mish mash of small time ratters can exist anywhere in NPC null, and true, they come crawling out of the woodwork as soon as the big boys leave. There's russians been doing that forever near Konora and the Godfathers in Fountain, the NPC bit in the middle. They farm PVE as long as the owners are deployed.
Plus don't get me wrong, i'm no enemy of the project. I just find it incredibly dubious because; it's a truly rotten place to be for the inexperienced when leadership drop the ball, PVE stats worth a damn will bring really competent nasty people, the organisers seem to think they are awesome for doing something that real entities do without even a thread about it and the clincher is the talk about "not following the herd" which shows a lack of understanding combined with an unfeasibly large self-importance bordering on autism.
Other than that, yeah go for it.
Don't bother adressing any of those points, tell me to post on my main again, yeesh.

Thank you for the bump, posting your views as a cyno alt about my lack of abilities in your opinion is all well and good, however as you are a faceless entity who posts on the forums a lot, no one can judge the value of your opinion. It matters not one bit to me that you think I am fail, I will take that as a compliment. In truth I find this rather amusing and have noted you getting more an more angry as time goes on. I offered you the chance to put a face to your alt, so that people could say, yeah that guy has had the experience to say that, but you have not

Stop, again your ignorance betrays you, to call the Godfarthers small time ratters is really funny, can you dig yourself any deeper, also we are talking about the Fountain core residents who PvP all the time as FA is now finding out, and yet you in your willful ignorance call them PvE'rs crawlling out of the woodwork, ROFL

Yes you are an enemy of Hub Zero, I know one when I see one.

Stain is a very good place to do this, its dead at the moment where we are, and a fellow Stain resident just pointed this out, he also confirmed my point on roams and confirmed its a lot different to Syndicate which you define is better than Stain.

For inexperienced people it is a bit daunting to get there, but once here its a lot easier than Syndicate.

Eve is a game where people want to get kills when they can and they go after PvE activity like flies to turds, the thing is that the location we picked is remote, so its a real journey, also there are other people doing more PvE using more expensive ships, so of course they get more attention than us.

I never called myself awesome, this is a way to operate without being in the straitjacket of a traditional alliance, and that is what you do not like, it hurts your sensibilities, so be it, if that rankles with you that's life, but just because it upsets you is no reason for others not to do it. I am sorry if this hurts your Eve feelings and gets you all mad, but that is how we want to play.

Following the herd, its only in the last few pages I used that, I thought that after PL showed what they thought of renters, that people could step back a bit from that and see another way of doing it, pretty good marketing if I may say so myself, or at least I hope so, but of course that will annoy traditional alliance people a lot, should I say sorry again?

So I am autistic am I, well your grammar and spelling is very poor, you look like you are typing an SMS and yet you go on about paragraphs, you are priceless and have given me so much amusement.

I keep hoping that you will bring your main down so I can have even more fun, but you won't, you just mouth off on the forums.

This might fail, it will only work if we can get enough core players that want to do that bit extra, I know this is the weakness of Hub Zero, however people often want to put more in when they are doing well and are happy, though having run a PvP corp, I have kicked people for not making the grade or doing something wrong, I certainly know that leadership requires that you get the respect of your corp mates for doing and being there. I could go off and ask them to post about me, but I am not one to beat my own trumpet, the real importance is to do.

Again I have dealt with your points, but I would like to add one more thing, post with your main

If you are going to make an accusation, then at least get your facts straight. You obviously do not realise that we are all alts of Chribba and Mittani.

i'm sorry you are right!

"mish mash of small time ratters", "big boys" ...

There are very few "big boys" in EvE anymore. Most of the very good PvP'rs left EvE long ago because PvP has become a small time ratters sport, there's nothing really in it for skilled PvP'rs anymore. The majority of people are small time ratters, regardless of whether they do L4, low sec orbiting of plexes, null anoms or whatever. The majority of blobs, which I assume are your "big boys" are made up of the same small time ratters that make up the null blocs, and most only go because they'd be kicked from alliance if they didn't show for CTA.

You can try to dress up your play style as end game as much as you like but the reality is EvE has never been more small time, its never been safer to be in null and I've been involved in all its incarnations since it launched.

Let the competent nasty people come looking for kills, you say that like its a bad thing, this game is primarily but not solely a PvP game, let them come and get killed or kill whichever happens. Sounds fun. Are you against fun pvp?

My experience in EvE lately especially in null tells me the opposite of what you propose. I made a number of very deliberately trollish posts recently about how I was out in Fade in multi-billion isk ships, with cargo holds full of billions in loot, even posted screenshots of which system I was in, expecting competent PvP'rs to come hunt me? Guess who came looking? Nobody. No traps, no bait, no anything because they were all too busy, doing what? L4, Anoms, orbiting in plexes...

I will leave Aaron to respond to that with a definate answer as he came up with the name, I would think its really a way to say a market hub in 0.0, but I honestly don't know if that was his thought process when he came up with that name.

I think it was a new new guy who coined Hub Zero in 2009.