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[Video Project] One Man Crew - Collective Solo PvP

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Aldap
Fearless Tiger.
#41 - 2013-11-20 21:08:50 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
Jen Moriarty wrote:
Lovely idea! I will definitely try. Since I'm new to this, what's the recommended software for a low-end machine to record video?


Fraps or Bandicam. Bandicam will compress the file, so will be a great choice if HDD space is a problem. However I dont know if it stress your computer more.

Unfortunately it does put that extra stress on the PC.
Jen Moriarty in your case I would suggest Fraps I think. My PC is old, and deals well with Fraps, but is completely unable to deal with Bandicam, though I would definitely use it if I could.

An interesting article about Solo PvP: http://themittani.com/features/new-eden-solo

Dangirdas Bachir
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2013-11-20 22:33:31 UTC
Remind me not to fuk with you.

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Cown
Heretical Cows
#43 - 2013-11-21 09:10:06 UTC
Amazing idea guys
I almost have to get my **** together and get some footage ;)
Haeri
Club Bear
#44 - 2013-11-21 11:05:10 UTC
Aldap wrote:
Mizhir wrote:
Jen Moriarty wrote:
Lovely idea! I will definitely try. Since I'm new to this, what's the recommended software for a low-end machine to record video?


Fraps or Bandicam. Bandicam will compress the file, so will be a great choice if HDD space is a problem. However I dont know if it stress your computer more.

Unfortunately it does put that extra stress on the PC.
Jen Moriarty in your case I would suggest Fraps I think. My PC is old, and deals well with Fraps, but is completely unable to deal with Bandicam, though I would definitely use it if I could.

Have you tried Bandicam with YV12 or RGB24? I've heard it should be considerably faster than Fraps, but I haven't tested it directly.

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
Brave Collective
#45 - 2013-11-21 11:25:09 UTC
I love you guys!!

Now about fraps,
I have a licence but I don't know what would be the best setting for recording, so I ask you what would be the best tradeoff for the fps setting?
I know that 60fps will create very large files so I would have to compress them later, which is the least of my concerns.

And one other thing, is it okay if I would ditch the sound recording or would I have to keep that in too?

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Mizhir
TOP DAMAGE Ltd.
Trigger Happy.
#46 - 2013-11-21 12:00:48 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
I love you guys!!

Now about fraps,
I have a licence but I don't know what would be the best setting for recording, so I ask you what would be the best tradeoff for the fps setting?
I know that 60fps will create very large files so I would have to compress them later, which is the least of my concerns.

And one other thing, is it okay if I would ditch the sound recording or would I have to keep that in too?


I spoke with Daneel Trevize yesterday and we discussed settings for recordings. He made a fair point about FPS: You dont need a high fps since the fight will most likely be edited to a higher speed in the video and in eve there aren't really that many fast movements so you wouldn't really notice a lower fps. So 30fps would be perfectly fine.

But more info about recording will come soon.

As for the sound. It will not really play an important role, but in my opinion, it can be nice to have. However we are not gonna force people to include it as I know there are people who plays without sound and the video will have music anyways.

❤️️💛💚💙💜

Haeri
Club Bear
#47 - 2013-11-21 12:11:14 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
elitatwo wrote:
I love you guys!!

Now about fraps,
I have a licence but I don't know what would be the best setting for recording, so I ask you what would be the best tradeoff for the fps setting?
I know that 60fps will create very large files so I would have to compress them later, which is the least of my concerns.

And one other thing, is it okay if I would ditch the sound recording or would I have to keep that in too?


I spoke with Daneel Trevize yesterday and we discussed settings for recordings. He made a fair point about FPS: You dont need a high fps since the fight will most likely be edited to a higher speed in the video and in eve there aren't really that many fast movements so you wouldn't really notice a lower fps. So 30fps would be perfectly fine.

Also youtube will limit the fps to 30 anyway. There are a few advantages to recording higher though, like if you want to do some nice slow motion :) Fraps will also limit your fps to whatever you're recording at so if you want to play at 60fps you'll have to record at 60, at least I'm pretty sure about that.

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
Brave Collective
#48 - 2013-11-21 12:23:35 UTC
That was fast Big smile !

Thank you guys!

Now that I have put sunglasses on, the only thing that I don't like to do is to lower my client's window resolution down to 1920x1080 so that you don't run into much trouble editing it.

Cheers,
e2

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Mizhir
TOP DAMAGE Ltd.
Trigger Happy.
#49 - 2013-11-21 12:27:18 UTC
Lowering something to 1920x1080 shouldn't be a problem as long as you got the correct aspect ratio

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
Brave Collective
#50 - 2013-11-21 12:35:01 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
Lowering something to 1920x1080 shouldn't be a problem as long as you got the correct aspect ratio


It isn't, it is just that I would be missing 58 pixels 'down' and on a 24 inch screen at 1920x1200 16:10 screen, you can see a difference, that's all.

But don't you worry, I'll have fraps record at 16:9.

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This is the law of ship progression!

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Jason Ozran
0mega.
#51 - 2013-11-22 07:10:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Jason Ozran
I was going to say "**** yeah!" as I mostly do solo PVP...but then I read that frigates were excluded. Is there any valid reason for that?

I recently had some fight 1vs3, 1vs4 and more, and they were pretty epic. You have to deal with the ewar, the drones, the targets, pilot manually...also, you talk about showing this to new pilot. I know, there are lots of frig fights that look the same/are boring/already exists...but what a better ship than a frigate to start this game?

Please reconsider this, and I'll gladly be part of it Big smile

Also, very good initiative.
Za'afiel
Imperceptible Bedevilment
#52 - 2013-11-22 08:23:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Za'afiel
Aldap wrote:
THE 9 RULES:
Generally speaking, the ships that are allowed in the fights need to be from Cruisers to Battleship hulls.
Any kind of ship is acceptable, Recon, Command, Pirate, Faction, etc... Industrial hulls are accepted as well.
We have chosen to exclude Frigates and Destroyers, but if you got a very special fight, write us about it and we'll see.


Not sure for the reasons, but we see A LOT of frig videos lately, it's not a bad thing, it's just that too much of sth does not taste as good anymore Smile I actuallly like this rule, but then de gustibus non est disputandum. As you can see they left an open window for frigs and dessies, so go shoot them all! Be polite.

Shoot them all! Be polite.

Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
#53 - 2013-11-22 12:31:39 UTC
Frigate pvp has gotten less interesting. Especially as people think slasher vs atron = thrilling video..
Cavalira
Arrivederci.
#54 - 2013-11-22 13:29:42 UTC
Jason Ozran wrote:
I was going to say "**** yeah!" as I mostly do solo PVP...but then I read that frigates were excluded. Is there any valid reason for that?

I recently had some fight 1vs3, 1vs4 and more, and they were pretty epic. You have to deal with the ewar, the drones, the targets, pilot manually...also, you talk about showing this to new pilot. I know, there are lots of frig fights that look the same/are boring/already exists...but what a better ship than a frigate to start this game?

Please reconsider this, and I'll gladly be part of it Big smile

Also, very good initiative.


Rumour has it that Buddhust princess HATES frig pvp, therefore no matter what kind of frig fight you submit, he'll not put it in.
Aldap
Fearless Tiger.
#55 - 2013-11-22 14:40:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Aldap
Frigate & Destroyer videos have been thoroughly explored lately, and that is great. Some really nice videos.

This particular project will focus more on the Cruiser+ hulls, but in no way do we think any less of Frig PvP.
In fact I have great respect for pilots who truly enjoy it, and I have flown with pilots that learned a great deal from it, and ended up learning a lot from them and their experience.

There is an invitation here for pilots who are used to only practice frig/dessie PvP to try something a bit different for a while. To undock a couple fo Cruisers, give it a shot. All you got to lose is a bit of ISK, and a lot more to gain, even if its just a new experience.

That being said, I have seen some pretty amazing frig and destroyer fights here and there. I've seen the Thrasher pull some unbelievable stunts, e.g. Arty-Thrasher killing a couple of frigs then a cruiser and a BC. So as I wrote, if you frig/dessie fight has some really special 'extra' edge to it, we will definitely check it out.

On this same note it will be nice to say that this 'extra edge' applies to any fight in any hull.
Every now and then, every pilot that flies small gang or solo gets an incredible fight. All the pieces come together, and afterwards you look at the whole picture in a kind of awe. You were so in the zone. The decisions you made on instinct were spot on.

Kovorix for example always manages to find such situations where the bigger picture feels special. Fights that have a special edge to them. If you take another look at his video Everlasting II, the fight that starts at 9 minutes into the video, is basically a solo story that is being told. And I find it amazing (btw he does it all without links or implants).

So if you are going to try and record a fight for this project. I invite you to record endlessly. Don't hold back. So when your instinct tell you that something is happening here, you're fishing for a fight, you're warping around system, landing on grid with this or that ship, playing cat and mouse games, separating the enemy gang. Feel free to hit that record button from the get go. If nothing comes out of it you can always go to your fraps folder and delete everything later right? But if your instinct were right and you end up recording a whole 10min story that ended in... say.... your Vagabond killing a Drake and Rupture... But all you got recorded is the actual fight, it may not seem that impressive. But if we could see all that you went thought in that 5min previous to the fight, maybe we'd see that you exhausted the enemy gang, your drove them crazy, planet to planet to moon, separating and killing the interceptor there at moon 8, making the hurricane aggress you on the gate, jumped with the Rupture, killed the rupture on the other side, the Drake jumps into you together with the Cane, Cane aggresses again and you jump again with the Drake, kill the Drake, and the Hurricane is already not wanting to engage you at that point.

Isn't that better than what seems like a recorded kill of a separate lone Rupture, then a separate lone Drake. When it actually was so much more?

Don't be afraid to submit a recorded story. We may cut out parts of it, and speed up warps and other phases to 400%, but your story will go through. You can compress it to mp4 in the settings that we'll post here soon (with freeware software), so a 15min video can take less than 500mb space and look great, don't worry about those things. Just recdord :-)

An interesting article about Solo PvP: http://themittani.com/features/new-eden-solo

Aldap
Fearless Tiger.
#56 - 2013-11-23 14:02:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Aldap
The pirze pool has been significantly updated.
With the new sponsorship of Garmon and Eve-Bet.com!
We now stand around 70bil+ worth of prizes to be given once the video is released.

Jureth22 wrote:
how come garmon isnt on the judge crew?
he is after all he is one and or the best pvp`er in this game.

True :-) He is now a judge as well.

An interesting article about Solo PvP: http://themittani.com/features/new-eden-solo

DHB WildCat
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#57 - 2013-11-23 14:39:37 UTC  |  Edited by: DHB WildCat
Aldap wrote:
The pirze pool has been significantly updated.
With the new sponsorship of Garmon and Eve-Bet.com!
We now stand around 70bil worth of prizes to be given once the video is released.

Jureth22 wrote:
how come garmon isnt on the judge crew?
he is after all he is one and or the best pvp`er in this game.

True :-) He is now a judge as well.



Good to have Garmon on board. Im gonna be a little self centered on this statement but when you can make my knowledge of the game and mechanics seem like the knowledge of a drooling toddler, then you have done something..... and thats exactly what garmon and the guys at hydra have done! Very glad to have him on board.


Also I like Battleships....... just saying, lol (as a side note cant wait for world of warships!)
Willl Adama
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#58 - 2013-11-23 21:30:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Willl Adama
This sounds pretty cool. I wouldn't mind helping out on the judging thing!

And someone needs to make this thing a sticky!

Hi

maCH'EttE
Perkone
Caldari State
#59 - 2013-11-23 21:35:24 UTC
this very goud idea, i like it.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#60 - 2013-11-24 22:28:18 UTC
big up for this project. I hope to see great things from it. Not only in video content but in the mindset of players in-game!

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