EVE General Discussion

Looks like you're the one who got wrecked

Bolded your really terrible assumption, recycling alts with neg sec status; which they will have, having been used for ganking and stuff, is a fast track to the ban hammer. CCP don't like it, and will swing the hammer if they catch you doing it.

As for the freighter issues

• Don't AP/AFK
• Don't use choke points if you don't have to.
• Don't pack it full of shiny stuff. Use multiple trips or couriers.
• Know thy enemy and set standings so that they stand out in local. Gankers and nullsec players don't nonchalantly hang around for no reason.
• If you get targeted by a frigate at a gate, and you're full of bling, you're going to have a bad day within a few jumps. Dock up for a while.
• Do pay attention (see above).
• Do consider using people like Red Frog or PushX to move your stuff, outsource your risk. Collateral is your friend.
• Did I mention DON'T AP/AFK?.

Go ahead and suicide gank with Catalyst alts and recycle them. Let's see how long your account lasts.

Here's a bit of a rambling thought.

You know how banks typically hire ex-hackers to test vulnerabilities in their security system? The premise is that they take advice on how to best defend themselves from someone who, being well practiced at attacking such things, would be in the best position to know what defenses are adequate or not.

But miners, and to a lesser extent haulers, are like banks that copy the security system of other banks that were hacked. So I asked myself, why not take the advice from the people who are in a position to know?

At first I thought that it's because they don't trust the advice. EVE is known for skullduggery after all, and from the view of a player, I would be wary of anything someone tells you is a guaranteed fact. But that's really giving too much credit to people who can't be asked to orbit a roid or not use autopilot.

So then I realized that I was going about it the wrong way, by treating them as players. They're not real players. And that's when I figured it out. Why they won't take advice from the one group of people who would best know how to stop ganks.

They take it personally. It's an affront, a bruise to their ego to suggest (let alone demonstrate) that what they already do is not sufficient. This is what leads to the lack of objectivity, the inability to take a step back and look at it from another perspective. So, just to spite "the gankers", they repeat the failing strategy over and over again, somehow expecting a different result, but their actions doom them to a circle of failure.

Thoughts?

The advice is good, and has been passed out by gankers since before the glory days of hulkaggedon. It's the source of the advice that they don't trust. Because it's come from gankers, and might involve some effort, the advice is somehow flawed and must have a loophole the gankers can exploit, collective paranoia in action.

CCP Stealth created this issue with the "Rebalance". First they buffed miners due to the cry about excessive, cheap ganking, but then they buffed the ships used for ganking.

So...."Working as intended".

LOl wormhole bears!

I'm still docked

No, no, no!

THIS is the solution ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5xvkAPXB9c ... Harden The **** Up! by Permaband (CCP DEVELOPERS)

N.B. Since this is a YouTube vid, you will need to copy the URL to an Out Of Game browser, of course ...

... and as my name might indicate ... I am a care bear trader and I have not been ganked in high sec for years and years !

... and I am VERY active ... and always out and about ...

... so ... you are DEF doing something wrong ...

... but, of course I am usually AT THE KEYBOARD ...

lol

me

Which goes entirely against the CCP philosophy of not having any in game action have permanent results.