Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This has been presented several times in the past, I'm now hoping you(CCP) could share your thoughts on the subject if it is an action you feel makes sense or if you are against it.
I'm sure you developers are fully aware of the problems concerning learning implants but I'll list some quite obvious effects they bring about.

• They benefit the inactive/offline the most.
• They benefit station campers the most.
• They benefit carebears the most.
• They benefit the rich most.
• They benefit veterans the most.
• They suffer the same downsides as did learning skills.
• They suffer the additional downside of costing much thus not only do you need to focus your skills on cyber V first but you also need to save up for the implants immediately after as well, or fall behind.
• You continually lose potential SP when actively playing the game with purpose built implants rather than pure learning implants.

Quite often I'm seeing myself staying docked and closing the client to train rather than play because I CBA. to change clone into less optimal learning implants and lose hours, possibly even days worth of SP because of that one or several gaming sessions.
Those who actually decide to go out and play, most notably interact in PvP and pod each other, those are the ones who suffer the real consequences, not only do they lose SP due to almost never having V's plugged in but they lose their IV's or III's when their pods pop. It makes little sense for a game supposed to promote PvP and yet punish those who then participate in it the most.

It is not an interesting nor exciting choice deciding to either play and lose efficiency or staying offline or docked while benefiting more, essentially playing 'optimally' when not playing.

What could be done is to remove the learning implants and make '+3 implants' baseline, people will rage about this but it's a reasonable suggestion, +5's made baseline might be just as fine a solution, I'm not sure, I'm just sure the learning implants must be removed.

Bottom line:
Rich inactive veteran station hugging carebears benefit the most
Poor active newbie proactive PvP'ers suffer the most

[EDIT] I see some are asking what about Slaves/Crystals etc, the idea is to merely strip the learning attributes from all those implants.

Holy crap yeah, I was going to do the same... In general I play the game without implants to avoid precisely what the OP is talking about. His reasoning makes some very surprising sense.

The best suggestion I ever saw was turning them into kinda boosters that last for say a month and aren't effected by pod loss. That way the current isk sink remains, hardwirings/pirate implants can still be lost yet people can pewpew at will.

Seems sensible to me. Learning implants as is are as daft as, well, learning skills.

Well that's a strange thing, considering mind transfer supposedly works via quantum entanglement...

Yes, but the system that the wormhole connects to is in 'real' space. Ergo, it shouldn't be a problem. Anyways, back to topic. learning implants are in a similar vein as learning skills. It would be consistent to phase them out.

Same as the guys above... I came in here thinking "baha some newb lost his +5's and is having a rage" but this makes so much sense and adds potential to make more hardwirings to fill the first 5 slots.

As long as they adjust training times so we all basically have +3 implants all the time I totally agree (+5 is too much). Implants should be about gameplay, not passive skill point hoarding.

People who have crystal, slave, snakes, etc don't pvp as much either. Should those implants be removed?

haha stupid

Wow, same rage here. But after I read the whole thing, it totally makes sense and made me cool down. I'm not a pvp guy, but I dip my toe time to time. I can simply tell the risk of being podded pushes you back of the high-sec or offline players, WHO train with their +4 - +5 implants on their head. Not to mention T3 ship skills being lost when podded.