Ships & Modules

If you split launchers and use only one group at a time your sustained dps loss will be 20% and if you fire with everything (so called burst mode) your total dps will be 50% higher before reload, not 100% higher. However you put it, "gain the ability to double there DPS" is wrong. He said the same on page 2:

If some of the things I've read on this board are true, then RLMs are broken. If people are using RLMs on unbonused cruiser hulls (Tengu) in favour of the weapon system assigned to the hull, that indicates the weapon system is too good. I'm not sure how accurate the figures posted in this thread are, but if RLMs are competing with HAMs for damage against medium hulls while retaining their inherent ability against smaller targets and their range, then yes, they are broken.

Tengus are bonused for RLML.

Fair enough. EFT shows the wrong bonuses.

That was an iphone app I checked on, it's usually bang on. If your EFT is rubicon'd though, maybe that's changed.

Regarding your HAM question - first thing one needs to do is fix HMLs, they've been left in the dirt since the rest of the medium weapons were buffed. Something which still boggles my mind "we need to reduce them to be the same as everything else."..."Everything else sucks, buff it! Except missiles". Mental, just mental.

Remember that HAMs are on the table alone because HML are even worse (less damage AND less application)...so people looked elsewhere and found the RLML as a decent compromise, but only on bonused hulls - we dont see drakes with RLML, for example. I don't think there should be a "go to" platform for cruiser vs cruiser - it should be a tactical choice. If HML were more viable there would be a greater fitting debate (as there was previously albeit skewed towards HML) therefore more diversity.

I genuinely dont think RLML are all that, just that in the current missile meta, they're the best choice - of a thoroughly bad bunch.


Again, I like the new concept - just not at the cost of replacing a current half decent system. CCP seem to be inferring from the complaints about it that it is the right course because they are OP - I believe however (without a dog in the fight) that people are complaining because it was the one decent system left.

I guess that seems about right. HMs need their damage buffed to match HAM damage, which would reflect the changes to the long range medium turrets. As a result, they may need nerfs to explosion velocity and radius. HAMs need their explosion velocity and radius buffed to keep them in line with the tracking benefits of medium short range turrets.