Wormholes

I'm sorry did you just say SSC are risk averse by bringing out a fleet from their POS, all the same paragraph you said it's right to just POS up. Even if you yourself can get even numbers.

You are right to not post on your main you ball-less wonder.

Vhalasedai, you will be wise to note the people not to pay attention to are the people that cannot even post on their main in the wormholes sub forum.

What I'll do now is actually give you some real advise. SSC, despite whatever fleet they are currently fielding. Will honor a request to ship down and or use a smaller fleet, if you contact them and ask. However, if you don't have the gonads available like the faceless alt "7enn" and you are a carebear at heart, just POS up. This however will not get you far at all.

There are two types of player in W-Space, those they are there to farm, and those that are there to have fun. The latter survive W-Space even though it means regular losses. The farmers have to post on faceless alts and are soon evicted for their risk averse nature and all their assets burned to the ground.

Now, back to the situation at hand. If you have a gang that you do not wish to contact to ship down, or will not ship down. Dunk on your static connection with your gang, and have a couple of Falcons available with the appropriate jammers available to jam their logi ships. Yes, even though Falcons are VERY annoying to W-Space folks, if they are just out to blob you and not out for an actual goodfight, then nobody will actually criticize you for using the Falcons, they really are a force multiplier.

So, if they really want to fight, they will come and fight on your terms. Be it Falcons or nano shield gang sniping them from afar. There is ALWAYS a way to get the fight on your terms and have some fun. Or you could just chop your nads off and POS up. You will soon be hated and lose all your assets. It may not happen over night, but it will happen.

I'm just dropping by to confirm that SSC are truly risk-averse carebears.

Much respect to you guys because you've earned it, but every instance of SSC that I've seen or heard about, you fly with a proper fleet or you don't fly. That's cool if that's your thing and there's nothing wrong with it, but not everyone can do that or is willing to limit themselves like that. It's good to hear that you will work with someone who wants to arrange a fight though.

OPs note about collapsing holes and getting a rep for it is worrisome. It has happened to us several times


A well known Polish WH alliance who shall remain nameless baited us on a K162 in our home hole with a Kronos. We took 4 bros over to take a nice hard bite at it in BS, and HACs. When he jumped homeward, we followed (most with props hot I imagine) and got that ****** to ~4% structure on the other side.

Sadly, and of course wholly expectedly our scout in there had almost immediately called 5 Guards, + 30 man T3 blob incoming. The kronos caught reps, our Ishy pilot got popped with a massive hardon for the Kronos kill instead of jumping home (reasonable considering) and we had to disengage. Also, prolly with props hot.

When they tried to push their blob through the badly abused hole, only 2 Proteus, a Loki, a Legion a Devoter and 1 x Guard made it before it fizzled out of existence.

The results were pleasing to us..... but we didn't mean to kill the hole WE SWEAR.

I read your blog entry twice to make sure I had everything right.

If I were you, I would have taken that second engagement. Despite having more dps and 50% more reps, they were in armor fleet. C4 Pulsar is +68% sigRad and -27% armor resists. Armor fleets rely on small sigRad and generally higher resists to reduce incoming damage. Your pulsar would have significantly reduced both of those advantages, and buffed your own fleets total EHP by 68%

The usually larger sigRad of shields is mitigated by +67% shield HP, and the fact that once the signature radius of a target exceeds the signature resolution (or explosion radius in the case of missiles) of a weapon, that weapon will see no further increase in applied damage.

tl;dr: Your shield tanked ships would likely already have been taking the maximum damage before the signature radius bloom of the Pulsar. But the armor tanked ships would take much more damage than normal. Shields got a boost to EHP while armor got a double nerf.

Another effect is the reduced efficacy of remote reps when the ship they are repping has reduced resists.

The only cause for concern was whether or not your 2 Basilisks could have dealt with the incoming dps. The Proteus and Loki both put out a lot of dps.

You were right to want to engage on your side of the wormhole. Brawler ships at 0, reps+Falcon at range. If they don't jump in their Guardians quickly, they would lose badly. If they do, their reps at at point-blank range in a gimped tank. Blap them.

But rather than a Falcon, you went back to the neut Pilgrim? Neut range on a Pilgrim is what, 5km? It would have been insta-popped, and as the opposing FC, it would have been my first primary. TD would also have been useless. Arazu damps would have been pretty much useless as well. A Huginn or Rapier would have been decent for its webs. Falcon best. Jam things, even up the odds.

My top priority for targeting would be the guardians because they will have to jump in to you to even participate. So you can just grab them and rip them apart. You also reduce their possible reps by 1/3 because a guardian cannot rep itself. Focusing logi in small gangs snowballs rather quickly once they start to pop.

Otherwise, primaries would be Astarte (kill their links, possibly headshot the FC, and because it has literally no buffer bonuses), armor Tengu (could possibly have been vollied right off the field), Sacrilege+Prophecy (to reduce dps quickly), then start in on the brick T3s, Lokis first to kill webs.

At some point in this engagement (most likely once their reps get popped), they would likely have tried to jump back through. At this point you can decide if you want dps and hictor to follow and continue to engage, (you will have to wait a bit for your logi to get there), or you can say killboards green, op success, and let them go.