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TEST and Caldari FW Proudly Announce Tier 4 Benefits to All Ex-Gallente

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Faife
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#141 - 2013-11-21 17:16:34 UTC
it's a completely original gimmick, i pizza promise
Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#142 - 2013-11-21 18:38:00 UTC
ZheoTheThird wrote:
1250ISK/LP


Shocked

Wow I actually feel sorry for you guys now. I hadn't realized things were so bad for TEST. You guys need a loan?

nom nom

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#143 - 2013-11-22 04:21:25 UTC
Princess Nexxala wrote:
ZheoTheThird wrote:
1250ISK/LP


Shocked

Wow I actually feel sorry for you guys now. I hadn't realized things were so bad for TEST. You guys need a loan?



I am not in Test but I will happily accept a 5 Billions ISK loan. Big smileBig smileBig smile
ZheoTheThird
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#144 - 2013-11-22 08:20:51 UTC
Princess Nexxala wrote:
ZheoTheThird wrote:
1250ISK/LP


Shocked

Wow I actually feel sorry for you guys now. I hadn't realized things were so bad for TEST. You guys need a loan?

I mean, first of all, 1250 is for calmil, testies get 1350. I don't quite understand - upon market analysis I've come to the conclusion that while a few items are going for 1500+, these are low volume ones. The majority are between 1000 and 1500 right now. Trading the high margin ones works in a small militia, but unleashing a thousand testies on the market would make the prices tank within days. The alliance payout of 1350 spreads the LP on more items, even the less profitable ones. This prevents us from crashing the market instantly. While it hurts individual income short term, it makes it more sustainable by keeping the prices from dropping. I am totally fine with making only 200m/hr because if we keep that up a month, I can plex my accounts until the end of days. But since you have a superior knowledge of economic mechanics, especially in FW, you've come to the same conclusion, so this post isn't directed at you directly, but more to a couple of logic-resistant naysayers who apparently missed their economy 101 classes in high school.
SoapyTits
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#145 - 2013-11-22 13:55:40 UTC
I love how TEST can turn ppl against each other, and just rub it in our faces like that Lol just love it!
chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Of Essence
#146 - 2013-11-22 15:06:50 UTC
ZheoTheThird wrote:
Princess Nexxala wrote:
ZheoTheThird wrote:
1250ISK/LP


Shocked

Wow I actually feel sorry for you guys now. I hadn't realized things were so bad for TEST. You guys need a loan?

I mean, first of all, 1250 is for calmil, testies get 1350. I don't quite understand - upon market analysis I've come to the conclusion that while a few items are going for 1500+, these are low volume ones. The majority are between 1000 and 1500 right now. Trading the high margin ones works in a small militia, but unleashing a thousand testies on the market would make the prices tank within days. The alliance payout of 1350 spreads the LP on more items, even the less profitable ones. This prevents us from crashing the market instantly. While it hurts individual income short term, it makes it more sustainable by keeping the prices from dropping. I am totally fine with making only 200m/hr because if we keep that up a month, I can plex my accounts until the end of days. But since you have a superior knowledge of economic mechanics, especially in FW, you've come to the same conclusion, so this post isn't directed at you directly, but more to a couple of logic-resistant naysayers who apparently missed their economy 101 classes in high school.


It depends how fast you need ISK - a lot of people wait for the pendulum to swing and slowly sell closer to 3k (I'm pretty lazy about my items and making LP in general, but I am pushing around 3k ISK/LP right now on high LP items (meaning less units to sell), only about 13,000,000 LP left to sell).

No troll, I am seriously rooting for test to keep T4 for at least another few months. I have quite a backlog of LP to sell.



Rockenator
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#147 - 2013-11-25 14:35:30 UTC
Faife wrote:
If you're finding yourself not making enough money as a Gallente, come join the new and improved Caldari faction militia. Tier 3 benefits and higher rewards available to all, even the newest recruits.

Don't waste your time plexing at T1 benefits. Make real isk at T3.

Remember, AWOXing Gallente guarantees citizenship and pays isk now.


UPDATE: soz, we're T4 now. you guys are bad.



Encouraging awoxing? Really test? This is low, even for you.
Rockenator
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#148 - 2013-11-25 14:41:24 UTC
ZheoTheThird wrote:
Tetsuo Tsukaya wrote:
Faife wrote:

Remember, AWOXing Gallente guarantees citizenship
.


Holy ****.

Are you seriously stealing Pizza's tag line after they used that same line to promote awoxing within TEST as they trolled you guys right out of sov?


If you seriously think that pizza was the reason that we left Delve, then you must have overlooked that huge orange blob on the map that's usually titled "CFC"

Pizza were bros. Bros who loved bombing us, but bros. Also, the quote originally came from Starship Trooper, but since we're redditors we love ripping stuff off.



I think not, Starship Troopers was about enlisting for your country, not about betrayal !!!
Charlie Firpol
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#149 - 2013-11-25 15:04:04 UTC
I would never convert my LP for less than 2200ISK/LP

The Butcher of Black Rise - eve-radio.com

March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#150 - 2013-11-25 15:25:11 UTC  |  Edited by: March rabbit
ZheoTheThird wrote:
Princess Nexxala wrote:
ZheoTheThird wrote:
1250ISK/LP


Shocked

Wow I actually feel sorry for you guys now. I hadn't realized things were so bad for TEST. You guys need a loan?

I mean, first of all, 1250 is for calmil, testies get 1350. I don't quite understand - upon market analysis I've come to the conclusion that while a few items are going for 1500+, these are low volume ones. The majority are between 1000 and 1500 right now. Trading the high margin ones works in a small militia, but unleashing a thousand testies on the market would make the prices tank within days. The alliance payout of 1350 spreads the LP on more items, even the less profitable ones. This prevents us from crashing the market instantly. While it hurts individual income short term, it makes it more sustainable by keeping the prices from dropping. I am totally fine with making only 200m/hr because if we keep that up a month, I can plex my accounts until the end of days. But since you have a superior knowledge of economic mechanics, especially in FW, you've come to the same conclusion, so this post isn't directed at you directly, but more to a couple of logic-resistant naysayers who apparently missed their economy 101 classes in high school.

i think Princess Nexxala's point is: rich people won't bother with such calculations Lol

Personally i have never farmed LP and have never sold LPs i got from killing FW targets. I make more than enough ISK without all this effortCool

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

ZheoTheThird
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#151 - 2013-11-25 15:43:53 UTC
Charlie Firpol wrote:
I would never convert my LP for less than 2200ISK/LP

The difference is that we're getting 4.5 times as much LP as you (provided we actually hold T4). So if we both spend an equal time farming (ugh, farming, I know), I'm making well over twice the ISK you're making, even though I sell out my LP for way under market value. Gallente LP is traditionally worth more as FW missions suck and gallente seem to be constantly T2/T1 anyways whereas caldari LP farming is as easy as it gets.

If you spent some time researching the caldari market, you'd very quickly see that 1500 at the moment is actually pretty damn good while 1350 is still reasonable. There is no way to convert calmil LP for 2200ISK/LP right now without you having to wait a month until your oders fill.
Charlie Firpol
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#152 - 2013-11-25 15:54:42 UTC
Thats why I stockpile during those times when GalMil has T4 or T3. The pendulum swings often enough and I am a lazy, cheap ass. I hate farming and I fly cheap ships. I have never tried out FW missions.

Being in Gallente isnt as bad as you think though, I remember when we were at T4 it was quite hard to find quiet systems that were not yet very near to 100% contested. And when I do farm LP, I dont want to pay attention to the screen.

A friend of mine joined EVE at that time, he was wtching some TV series while plexing, he payed for EVE exactly once and is since then plexing his accounts. He has godlike patience. I would go crazy with so much orbiting xD

The Butcher of Black Rise - eve-radio.com

Cromwell Savage
The Screaming Seagulls
#153 - 2013-11-25 15:59:24 UTC
ZheoTheThird wrote:

The difference is that we're getting 4.5 times as much LP as you (provided we actually hold T4).


No you're not....

Those of us that actually know how FW works and cycles (you didn't really want T5 anyways right???)....have the means to "diversify" our LP gains when the pendulum shifts...

I thank you for your assistance Cool
ZheoTheThird
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#154 - 2013-11-25 18:17:37 UTC
Cromwell Savage wrote:
ZheoTheThird wrote:

The difference is that we're getting 4.5 times as much LP as you (provided we actually hold T4).


No you're not....

Those of us that actually know how FW works and cycles (you didn't really want T5 anyways right???)....have the means to "diversify" our LP gains when the pendulum shifts...

I thank you for your assistance Cool

Yes, we are. I know that the smarter ones of you lads have a calmil alt, but since I don't know the numbers on these, I don't count them in in my calculation.
Cromwell Savage
The Screaming Seagulls
#155 - 2013-11-25 18:33:56 UTC
ZheoTheThird wrote:
but since I don't know the numbers on these, I don't count them in in my calculation.



And that is why you continue to think you are accomplishing something "special"....

Big smile

Keep up the good work!!!!
Zah Damaja
Reveka.
Bad-Touch
#156 - 2013-11-25 19:36:06 UTC
I didn't realize winning faction warfare would be so easy.

Good job TEST and CalMil!

[b]Zah Damaja Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter[/b] _“A leader leads by example, not by force” -_Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#157 - 2013-11-27 08:34:01 UTC
Zah Damaja wrote:
I didn't realize winning faction warfare would be so easy.

Good job TEST and CalMil!


You never reached T5, already dropped to T3 and very soon down to T2. You are worthless even by your own irrrelevant standards of FW sov holding Big smile

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X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#158 - 2013-11-28 01:14:03 UTC
Roime wrote:
Zah Damaja wrote:
I didn't realize winning faction warfare would be so easy.

Good job TEST and CalMil!


You never reached T5, already dropped to T3 and very soon down to T2. You are worthless even by your own irrrelevant standards of FW sov holding Big smile

So what you're saying is that plexing noobs will now make better isk/hour in Gallente militia - even if we're only at Tier 1 (have you seen FDU LP store prices lately?). Will probably be like that for a long while since TEST has a boat load of faction items to sell over a very long time period.

If TEST and Caldari FW are a noob's best friend, then I'd hate to see their enemy.

We in Gallente militia promise nothing except fights for our noobs. And you'll be able to make some isk for yourselves as well (and not for TEST).



Anya Klibor
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#159 - 2013-11-28 03:59:25 UTC
Hey guys! Did you hear TEST lost sov and are now joining CalMil?

:slowpoke:

Leadership is something you learn. Maybe one day, you'll learn that.

Ozymandias Hamalia
Flat Earth Believers
#160 - 2013-11-29 20:58:30 UTC
I have never done FW. How is everyone supposedly making all this isk? LP for what? Ships? Mods? I might try it as I'm so very new here.

Can someone post a screenshot? If it is ships how do you move them into a market hub? Courier contracts? Fly them yourselves?

I've watched a few videos on You Tube but it only shows plexing and stuff. Never what you actually have to do to get rewarded.