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so the concept of 1v1 , i think its TABOO nowadays

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Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#1 - 2013-11-14 02:15:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Starbuck05
Recently in fw i've been trying to get some 1v1 gudfights , its not going to well . While i realize i aint a good pvp'er and i know i don't have a grasp on every tactic and strategy there is , i still sometimes don't understand wtf ...

Now to be str8 up , i do not mind loosing a ship or 2 or 200 , but what i find it frustrating is the fact that , when i get a fight going my enemy has friends off grid just sharpin theyr tieth w8in to come whore on the mail that most of the time before they show up i fight at a disatvantage anyway ( which i don't mind just for the sake of the gud fight) ... either that or the endless rage about off grid boosts ofc .



So i know that is called a gank and its part of the game and people go out with fleets etc etc and like i said above i don't mind loosing a ship BUT FOR GODS SAKE GIVE ME THAT 1V1 THEN KILL ME 100000 OVER FFS ( sorry caps )


Does no one just do solo for fun anymore ? or am i just that ******** i can't find those people ... or maybe i am just that ******** i cannot use a type of tactic to try and create a 1v1 situation ... i dunno , God help me ..



P.S i am in a corp , i run with fleets myself , i just fancy going out solo every now and then .

P.P.S this may seem like a rant/rage thread but its not .. or not so much :)

Just because i am blond does not make me stoopid !

Xiderpunk
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-11-14 03:52:10 UTC
It can be so hit and miss with good 1v1's I have found. I spent some hours yesterday looking for solo fights and lost a couple of slashers in the process, first to an instalock gatecamp minutes after fitting and undocking (lol, gotta love em). The rest of the time I couldn't find suitable opponents, other t1 frigates plexing would warp away. In the end I saw a pirate thrasher coming to say hello on dscan so aligned.. and then thought oh hell with it may as well try... mistake lol.

Anyway, if you want some 1v1's with me I will happily oblidge... I am gal mil so lurk around Nennamaila. I don't and won't call for back-up.
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#3 - 2013-11-14 06:31:31 UTC
There are very few in gal mil that will try to solo pvp. Hit killer rasta, chatgris, gunnyt31 or princess nexxala (i can't spell What?) up if you see them in local. They give good fights.
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#4 - 2013-11-14 06:33:40 UTC
I also forgot yuri something something from justified chaos, i see him solo sometimes too.
Taoist Dragon
Okata Syndicate
#5 - 2013-11-14 07:49:54 UTC
I've found a fair few in the Galmil are happy to 1v1.

I know cos I get my arse handed to me often from them :)


1v1 isn't unheard of but it is a very rare and special thing that needs to be fully respected and nurtured for it to grow to its full potential.

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.

Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
#6 - 2013-11-14 08:05:23 UTC
1v1 is viable and it happens quite often but I think the current frig meta in FW made people beleave that max e-war shitfits with some ridiculous low DPS can actually kill something and cry when they get blobbed after tackling their opponent for 20 minutes.
Ive got a hint for you: fit some DPS and the fight will be shorter than your opponent can react and blob you.
Also I think that checking killboards is underestimated by some solo tryhards who come later on forums and complain. When someone hasnt a single solo kill in two months there is a slight chance that he might not be solo this time too.

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Eliana LaFey
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-11-14 08:34:06 UTC
I enjoy both solo and fleet PvP and I have no issues finding targets in solo. There's a few things to consider.

Do you want to be the spider in the web or do you want to be the one to jump in on people? From my perspective, people going INTO plexes where there's already another player, are the ones looking for a fight. That means people who go into plexes are generally more experienced, has a good amount of SP or are just plain stupid. Which ever one it is, it gives the people not looking to PvP enough reason to bail out, as you can fairly assume the guy warping in to you is confident he can take the fight.

So what does this mean? You can be the guy warping from plex to plex, hoping that someone stays for a fight (I know multiple people who make this work), or you can be the spider, who waits for these guys to come in (and at the same time make some good LP!). Myself, I prefer the spider method. Pick a healthy offensive system, start plexing and sooner or later you're going to have people warping in to your plex, looking for a fight.

I know this works from experience, as I do it every day.
Charlie Firpol
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-11-14 13:20:24 UTC
Baali Tekitsu wrote:
1v1 is viable and it happens quite often but I think the current frig meta in FW made people beleave that max e-war shitfits with some ridiculous low DPS can actually kill something and cry when they get blobbed after tackling their opponent for 20 minutes.
Ive got a hint for you: fit some DPS and the fight will be shorter than your opponent can react and blob you.


Yep, this is basically how you turn a gank into a nice solo fight. Fly hulltanked catalysts. Either you or your target will die before his 20 friends can press "activate" at the acceleration gate.

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Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#9 - 2013-11-14 13:44:45 UTC
Eliana LaFey wrote:
I enjoy both solo and fleet PvP and I have no issues finding targets in solo. There's a few things to consider.

Do you want to be the spider in the web or do you want to be the one to jump in on people? From my perspective, people going INTO plexes where there's already another player, are the ones looking for a fight. That means people who go into plexes are generally more experienced, has a good amount of SP or are just plain stupid. Which ever one it is, it gives the people not looking to PvP enough reason to bail out, as you can fairly assume the guy warping in to you is confident he can take the fight.

So what does this mean? You can be the guy warping from plex to plex, hoping that someone stays for a fight (I know multiple people who make this work), or you can be the spider, who waits for these guys to come in (and at the same time make some good LP!). Myself, I prefer the spider method. Pick a healthy offensive system, start plexing and sooner or later you're going to have people warping in to your plex, looking for a fight.

I know this works from experience, as I do it every day.



Apreciate it but its already what i do.. the whole spider thing lol






also i do not fit and fly ewar max **** fits..only pure blooded boxing ships

Just because i am blond does not make me stoopid !

Andre Vauban
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-11-14 14:27:46 UTC
It isn't really hard to get a 1v1, but you have to fly the right ships. If you fly bling, people will look to gank you. If you fly around with 1 or more booster alts, people will look to gank you or just avoid you. If you fly a kiting ewar ship, people will avoid you or look to gank you.

If you want 1v1s, you have to fly a brawler. If you do that, you will either be attacked by kiting ewar ships, get ganked, or find a fun 1v1. You also have to look in the right place.

Don't go too close to a hostile home system, because as soon as you are reported in a home system plex or very close, 5-10 people will independently come at you trying to "solo".

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Morgan Torry
Arma Purgatorium
#11 - 2013-11-14 14:41:53 UTC
OP's use of grammar has me wanting to gouge my eyes out. I must go sacrifice Condors to the war gods to cure myself.


That said, there's plenty of 1v1 opportunities. Yes, a lot have buddies. But not everyone. Remember the names of those who don't call in help from the next system. Don't fly pirate ships and don't fit shiny stuff all the time...it gives an impression that you're a shiny kill and a shinier loot drop. I'll freely say that I've lied to honor a 1v1 if I knew the guy flew with faction points or was in a shiny pirate frig. It's that simple. The issue is not 1v1s. It's thinking there's honor. Always fly assuming no honor so the next time your "1v1 at top belt" turns into a 1v5 you won't be so upset. Then when your opponent keeps to the 1v1 you have gained his respect and by proxy he has gained your's.

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DaRiKavus
Mosh Pit
THE BESTICLES
#12 - 2013-11-14 14:59:58 UTC  |  Edited by: DaRiKavus
Firstly, if youfly with intelligence and aggresion you can certainly get "solo" fits.

Allow me to expand on this a little.

When I say solo I mean one of the following scenarios.

(1) Select a suitable target from a small gang, seperate it from the group and kill it.
(2) Fly something that can dictate range, I have had twice the ammount of fights compared to my KB stats. This is due to engaging, seeing how the fight pans out and then either getting the kill or GTFO.
(3) If you are going to brawl your available target selection is reduced.
(4) Know your ship, yourself and your enemy.
(5) Accept losses as part of the fun, solo is fun. If you want to win every fit becasue you had the better ship and the odds where stacked in your favour then solo is not for you.

And finally, get to know the area you intend to roam in, this has been mentioned and is invaluable to successful solo pvp.
Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#13 - 2013-11-14 15:05:15 UTC
Morgan Torry wrote:
OP's use of grammar has me wanting to gouge my eyes out. I must go sacrifice Condors to the war gods to cure myself.


That said, there's plenty of 1v1 opportunities. Yes, a lot have buddies. But not everyone. Remember the names of those who don't call in help from the next system. Don't fly pirate ships and don't fit shiny stuff all the time...it gives an impression that you're a shiny kill and a shinier loot drop. I'll freely say that I've lied to honor a 1v1 if I knew the guy flew with faction points or was in a shiny pirate frig. It's that simple. The issue is not 1v1s. It's thinking there's honor. Always fly assuming no honor so the next time your "1v1 at top belt" turns into a 1v5 you won't be so upset. Then when your opponent keeps to the 1v1 you have gained his respect and by proxy he has gained your's.


Just because you are a lieing scum bucket doesn't translate into everyone being as douchey as you. Many many people in Gal Mil will honor a 1 v 1, there are even some in Caldari. It is too bad you aren't one of them.

To find 1 v 1's pick your system and be willing to have it take a while, or show up almost immediately. The next step after that is being willing to take 1 v 2 or more. Generally that can only be pulled of by decent pilots with a fair amount of SP, but a lot depends on your enemies. TZ is also important, US Prime time is generally a BAD time to look for 1 v 1.
Courath Al'viendi
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2013-11-14 15:19:36 UTC
I am Courath Al'viendi and I will blob you and give you free transport back to Innia.
Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#15 - 2013-11-14 15:21:22 UTC
Aren't Talon still living in Prism?
Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#16 - 2013-11-14 17:07:30 UTC
Morgan Torry wrote:
OP's use of grammar has me wanting to gouge my eyes out. I must go sacrifice Condors to the war gods to cure myself.


That said, there's plenty of 1v1 opportunities. Yes, a lot have buddies. But not everyone. Remember the names of those who don't call in help from the next system. Don't fly pirate ships and don't fit shiny stuff all the time...it gives an impression that you're a shiny kill and a shinier loot drop. I'll freely say that I've lied to honor a 1v1 if I knew the guy flew with faction points or was in a shiny pirate frig. It's that simple. The issue is not 1v1s. It's thinking there's honor. Always fly assuming no honor so the next time your "1v1 at top belt" turns into a 1v5 you won't be so upset. Then when your opponent keeps to the 1v1 you have gained his respect and by proxy he has gained your's.



I really like people like you,coming to a GAMING forum from a game thats played internationaly and complaining some people's english grammar sucks...like really..get a life ... Im not about to learn grammar for a language thats not my primary just to sooth your eyes, i can speak it decently and as far as i care as long as people can read and understand what i wanna say thats good enough!

Just because i am blond does not make me stoopid !

Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#17 - 2013-11-14 17:28:48 UTC
Thanatos Marathon wrote:
Aren't Talon still living in Prism?



Innia

Just because i am blond does not make me stoopid !

Nick Starkey
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2013-11-14 22:14:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Nick Starkey
Pretty sure a good incentive to that is because people can wh0re killmails by simply tagging along with 0.3% damage. Quite a few people are obcessed with that so swarming not only stacks the odds in their favour but also inflates killboards to add.

At least if killboard efficiency somehow splitted the value by number of participants, those stats would actually have a meaning and _maybe_ get more people to 1v1. It's not the purpose of the game, but it would be a small incentive for those honored fights.

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Hrett
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-11-14 22:59:39 UTC
Andre has the right of it I think.

I have very few hours to play, but at least in my time zone (10ish to 12ish pm US Central), its possible to find them. The later in that bracket, the better.

About a week ago I got burnt out on fleets and made an effort to go find solo fights. I found 2-3 a night on average in about 2-3 hours of play time. Its not a massive amount, but its better than nothing. This is in T1 frigates though. I just went to systems close to home bases that were 90%+ contested. It was pretty easy to find them there. You might have to take some 2 and 3 v 1 fights sometimes, but those are fun when you win, and hey - its a T1 frigate if you lose.

I did find a few people in AFs and faction frigates and EAFs that wanted to solo. Those are ok, but most of the solo AF people were flying Hawks. IMHO - if you fly a ship like that you are drastically reducing the chance you will have to find a solo fight. If everyone knows your ship needs a gang to break its tank, a gang you will find.

I know people hate to hear it, but the best way to find a fight is in T1 hulls. Any more blingy and people will either avoid you, or you will get blobbed.

Just my opinion.

spaceship, Spaceship, SPACESHIP!

Christine Peeveepeeski
Low Sec Concepts
#20 - 2013-11-14 23:02:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Christine Peeveepeeski
The problem with 1v1's is killboards.

Take away killboards, killmails... job done. PVP sorted.

'But OMG alliances will be able to lie about kills'

Oh right? So, when wars are waged in life we get killmail stats for kills and nobody lies right? Who cares, is not the victor the guy with space and the assets? Who cares if they lost a lot to get what they fought for...

I'll get shot down for this but kill stats is what fucks games up and brings in the complete nerd brigade who **** talk up chats and forums. Your spoils for a kill should be the mods it holds and the salvage you get. The territory won or the strategic location fought over.

'Christine you scrub, how am I supposed to look awesome with my fleet kills and 98% efficiency'

AHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAA no one cares but your stats but you, think about it.
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