Jita Park Speakers Corner

Are you really so delusional as to think you could defeat Concord and all the fleets of Empire space?

This is how the nullsec vs highsec show goes brainiac, all the gates from nullsec get interdicted by huge Empire Navy and Concord fleets, you get blasted every time you jump a gate into highsec by a military gate camp, those few who survive the initial gauntlet get blasted every time they approach a station by station guns and you aren't allowed to dock, all the while you get hunted relentlessly by Concord and the Empire Navies, the Militia, and all the carebears of highsec who significantly out number you an are now getting paid incursion like bounties from Concord to give you a free pod ride out of highsec.

You no longer get bounties for ratting back home in nullsec because those are paid by Concord/ The Empires and you are now at war with them.

You have to survive off of what you can build in nullsec and that is going to be damn hard since you shoot the miners and only your alts have industrial skills.

When you start to run out of supplies or your neighbor does and invades your system to steal your's you'll be easy pickings for the highsec Militias and your now desperate neighbors while you are mining to get materials to make ammo or power your pos. Remember cyno's don't work in highsec but they'll keep delivering the pain to you in nullsec with Empire Naval and Militia forces as well as your blood thirsty opportunistic neighbors.

Don't think you really want to see this show, nullsec vs highsec doesn't end well for nullsec. No cookie just a trip to your medical clone.

Concord won't do jack since we properly wardecced, they will pay rat bounties like always. I have no idea what u mean by "Fleets of Empire space" but if u mean the people that actually live in highsec.. allow me to chuckle...

Also, I'm afraid you will be surprised how vast null will close ranks if they get even half the chance to blob your arrogant highsec asses.


Now go back to your incursions before u make more of a fool of yourself.

You properly wardecced the Empires and Concord won't do jack ???? hahahahaha! You represent the clown sitting at home cleaning his rifle because he thinks its protection from a tyrannical government, a government that has an Army that has tanks and jet aircraft that would blow his silly ass away if they were indeed tyrannical. The CCP fleet of employees with only their max skills could walk thru any and every nullsec system and wipe your gang of hooligans from nullsec with little trouble. Watch the videos bro. Concord has instant targeting and massive firepower. Chuckle if that is what makes you feel good but in this match up your blobs get wiped from the field just like before CCP caved in to the nullsec tears and nerfed the supercaps to appease the tearful goon csm6 because their low brow strategy of swarm attacks couldn't succeed anymore. Now with the advantage swung back to mindless blob warfare they are once again finding targets other then highsec miners to shoot, fearless warriors that they are.

Just think things thru before you post them and you will not continue to look like the south end of a north bound mule.

Hey here's a better idea ask the brave goons to only fight when they outnumber their opponent 10 to 1 instead of your normal heroic 20 to 50 to one and come back if you get any response other than "but i might lose a chance to get a kill board mention as a .001 percent damage dealer! nooooooooooooo!"

Bat Country is a glass house don't start to throw stones Zim.

Listening to one person call different sansha primaries is not really socializing. But I guess to some it is - or they don't want to admit its really just about the isk. Like you say the isk is nice.

I think CCP assumes people who play EVE are socially defunct. They are constantly assuming we need to "socialize" more and therefore mechanics that force even the most basic utterances are seen as superior to those that don't.

Why does ccp assume its subscribers are looking to a computer game to be their social network?

That would be because you seem to not fundamentally understand the difference between choosing to risk your ship (as pve players do all day everyday) and having a swarm of juvenile acting brats flying throw away ships destroy your instrument for making isk for kicks. Pve players lose ships all the time and just replace them. We figure how to better fit or fight the ship so it does not happen the same way again. The myth that pve players are adverse to losing ships is nonsense! What is distasteful is losing a ship to a punk thug who enjoys having the game mechanics set up to support his limited thinking style of gameplay.

Lets raise the bar and improve the game. Why are the loudest proponents of PVP so afraid of fair fights?

Is that your way of ignoring the fact that your false on it's face assertions that PVE players are afraid to risk ships doesn't hold up to the simple fact that PVE players risk their ships twice as often as goons flying in their safe Alliance enclaves surrounded by blue toadies? PVE players are targeted by NPC threats and gank threats everyday. How much risk are you under surrounded by your swarm?

Well, I think you have a bit of a point here at least Temba ... PVE players do risk ships often (and lose them) .... ship loss isn't what's keeping carebears from PVP'ing.

When I talk to other hisec players about trying out some PVP though, their reaction is usually "Why, what's the point?" ... i.e. - you don't make much isk (without becoming a professional pirate and maybe not even then), and about the only thing you DO get from it, is lowered security status ..... and there's almost no way to get a "fair fight" (even if you can agree what that is) .... so it's likely not going to feel REWARDING to your ego either .... you'll likely lose due to neutral reppers, it'll devolve into docking games, or you'll so outgun the other guy that it'll be like taking candy from a baby. There's always suicide ganking .... but again ... there's really nothing anyone can do to stop a suicide gank (yeah, they can try tanking their hulk and "staying aligned" while mining (laughable), or keep buddies on hand to "defend" (but there's no real way even a fleet can defend against a suicide)) but where's the feeling of accomplishment?

In order to care about PVP, I pretty much have to step back to kindergarten and play a bully ... it's Bully or Be Bullied ... and
NONE of these PVP scenarios will FEEL like an accomplishment ... so WHY should anyone care to PVP?

There's much more of a feeling of accomplishment to figuring out research and manufacturing chains, building cool stuff without losing isk, market PVP, building a killer set of standings & skills that let you anchor POS's & make isk on the market when no one else can ..... etc.

There needs to be more to it, before hisec carebears will care about PVP ....

Never been ganked in highsec Zim? Let me know when you will visit again in a cargo hauler and i'll see if some of my PVE friends in highsec can give you the experience you've missed thus far. I spend my time skulking around null looking for the rarest target in all of EVE ..... a goon flying alone.

You are promising "Certain death" hahahahaha! at the hands of your friends perhaps you have been playing since 10/2009 and you still do not have a solo kill of anything that can shoot back Ya Huei! LOL the fierce wannabe warrior has me all nervous hahahaha!

I fly ships that shoot Ya Huei ... that might be trouble for you if you are alone ...... you do fly alone sometimes don't you? Not too scared to undock without your fellow packdogs are you?

Perhaps you could teach me a few things about PVP, i would sure appreciate the chance for a lesson from someone of YOUR skill level and accomplishments. I'm still very new at EVE so I'm looking for some pointers on quick kills in PVP, it would be great if you could help me out!