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[SHIP] A Design for the SoE Battleship, the Nestor
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#61 - 2013-11-27 17:45:22 UTC
Yongtau Naskingar wrote:
Yummy Chocolate wrote:
Keep in mind that the Nestor was never officially announced or even hinted at by CCP.

True. However:
CCP Rise wrote:
We hope you guys enjoy the new ships, and make sure to keep your eyes peeled following Rubicon, the Sisters of EVE may not be done giving us new toys quite yet…

So. I know people who are training up BS skills just in case.

Yep, this exactly- they said we'd get something more, most likely, and every other pirate faction has a frigate, cruiser and battleship, so it's only logical to assume that a ship with a SoE description is significant in a way. Also, somebody predicted that the BS would be called the Nestor- it has relation to the other names.

And I'm training up my drone and BS skills as we speak- I'd like to be prepared if it comes sometime sooner than later- probably rubicon 1.1.

"A City made of Dreams is built in heaven"
Seranova Farreach
Biomass Negative
#62 - 2013-11-27 17:58:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Seranova Farreach
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:
Hey everyone- So I've been really excited for all of the SoE ships we're getting, and even more so for the BS, which is coming out in a point release a little after Rubicon hits.

So I was inspired, and drew up a picture of it- ignore the rambling text if you'd like, but I put a decent amount of work into this:

My design for the Nestor.

I actually took some inspiration from Sisi's placeholder model (the star destroyer-esque model) and incorporated it into the picture- I felt like it matched SoE's aesthetic well. Then I molded parts similar to the other SoE ships onto it and mixed it all together.

I also wrote some improvised stats up for it :

Hi- 6
Med- 5
Low- 8

Turret Hardpoints- 4

Drone Bay: 475m3 (yes, its main weapon system is drones, and the exploration/long deployment thing yadda yadda)
Drone Bandwidth: 125mbit/sec
Cargo Hold: 985m3 (again with the long deployment theme)

Role Bonus: 37.5% Bonus to Large Energy Turret tracking speed, optimal range and accuracy falloff
Role Bonus: 37.5% increase Scan Probe Strength
Role Bonus: +15 Virus strength for Relic and Data Analyzers (to make a exploration battleship reasonable to use)

Can fit covert ops cloaking devices (like the others)

Amarr Battleship Skill Bonus per level:
4% bonus to armor resistances

Gallente Battleship Skill Bonus per level:
10% bonus to drone damage and hit points

I am changing these stats as time goes on, in order to balance them with current ship stats.

Tell me what you think- I'd love for CCP to see this and use my drawing as its design Lol

Thanks for reading.

EDIT: Changed 5% Amarr BS Bonus to 4%.
EDIT: Removed one Medium Power slot.
EDIT: Changed 10% Gallente BS Bonus to 7.5%.
EDIT: Changed Both BS Bonuses again, added Role Bonuses.
EDIT: Changed Both BS Bonuses again, changed virus strength bonus.
EDIT: Added 37.5% Role Bonus to Large Energy Turret tracking.
EDIT: Changed Gallente BS Bonus again.
EDIT: Added Turret Hardpoint Number.
EDIT: Changed Gallente BS Bonus and Role Bonus again.
EDIT: Changed Role Bonus again.
EDIT: Removed one High Power slot, changed Turret Hard Points to 4.


i love the concept drawing its a little like a star destroyer but has the SOE spin, maybe insted of being that triangular make it more 4 angles (see the rectangular appearances of the 2 current soe ships) as for lp keep it in line with other faction BS's 300,000 for BPC (still needs minerals and time to make) or 600,000 for pre build


PS. CCP Rise already hinted at the SOE battleship in the Reddit QnA he did.

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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#63 - 2013-11-27 18:07:31 UTC
Seranova Farreach wrote:


i love the concept drawing its a little like a star destroyer but has the SOE spin, maybe insted of being that triangular make it more 4 angles (see the rectangular appearances of the 2 current soe ships) as for lp keep it in line with other faction BS's 300,000 for BPC (still needs minerals and time to make) or 600,000 for pre build


PS. CCP Rise already hinted at the SOE battleship in the Reddit QnA he did.

Oh yeah, I did see that- in Rise's AMA Big smile

Also, for LP, it would probably be like that for Sanctuary (actually, pirate BS's cost 400,000 for BPC and 800,000 for a pre-built), but it'd be higher for SoE in High-sec. I could see it being around 500-550,000 for the BPC and 900-950,000 for a pre-built.

Regardless, I'm getting one as soon as possible- I'd love for a dev to see my drawing, but whatever if they don't- I'll love the ship regardless of what they use, as long as it's strong enough to be fun to fly Big smile

"A City made of Dreams is built in heaven"
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#64 - 2013-11-27 19:29:07 UTC
BraveLttl Toaster wrote:
I'd like to see it as a faction black-ops. Give it a standard cloak and the ability to fit a covert bridge

I'd also like a ship like that, but I'm keeping it more in-line with the Astero and Stratios- cloaking, drones, armor, lasers and exploration. That kind of ship would be awesome on its own, but I don't think it fits the SoE well enough to use it.

"A City made of Dreams is built in heaven"
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#65 - 2013-11-28 02:58:07 UTC
ADDITION: Added that the ship has no reduction in Sensor Recalibration time after dropping cloak: this prevents it from being overpowered.

"A City made of Dreams is built in heaven"
Chimpface Holocaust
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#66 - 2013-11-28 05:01:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Chimpface Holocaust
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:
Hey everyone- So I've been really excited for all of the SoE ships we're getting, and even more so for the BS, which is coming out in a point release a little after Rubicon hits.

So I was inspired, and drew up a picture of it- ignore the rambling text if you'd like, but I put a decent amount of work into this:

My design for the Nestor.

I actually took some inspiration from Sisi's placeholder model (the star destroyer-esque model) and incorporated it into the picture- I felt like it matched SoE's aesthetic well. Then I molded parts similar to the other SoE ships onto it and mixed it all together.

I also wrote some improvised stats up for it :

Hi- 7
Med- 5
Low- 8

Turret Hardpoints- 5

Drone Bay: 475m3 (yes, its main weapon system is drones, and the exploration/long deployment thing yadda yadda)
Drone Bandwidth: 125mbit/sec
Cargo Hold: 985m3 (again with the long deployment theme)

Role Bonus: 37.5% Bonus to Large Energy Turret tracking speed, optimal range and accuracy falloff
Role Bonus: 37.5% increase Scan Probe Strength
Role Bonus: +15 Virus strength for Relic and Data Analyzers (to make a exploration battleship reasonable to use)

HAS NO SENSOR RECALIBRATION TIME REDUCTION. (to keep the cloak from being OP)

Can fit covert ops cloaking devices (like the others)

Amarr Battleship Skill Bonus per level:
4% bonus to armor resistances

Gallente Battleship Skill Bonus per level:
10% bonus to drone damage and hit points

I am changing these stats as time goes on, in order to balance them with current ship stats.

Tell me what you think- I'd love for CCP to see this and use my drawing as its design Lol

Thanks for reading.

EDIT: Changed 5% Amarr BS Bonus to 4%.
EDIT: Removed one Medium Power slot.
EDIT: Changed 10% Gallente BS Bonus to 7.5%.
EDIT: Changed Both BS Bonuses again, added Role Bonuses.
EDIT: Changed Both BS Bonuses again, changed virus strength bonus.
EDIT: Added 37.5% Role Bonus to Large Energy Turret tracking.
EDIT: Changed Gallente BS Bonus again.
EDIT: Added Turret Hardpoint Number.
EDIT: Changed Gallente BS Bonus and Role Bonus again.
EDIT: Changed Role Bonus again.
EDIT: Removed one High Power slot, changed Turret Hard Points to 4.
EDIT: Gave 1 High Power slot back, added 1 Turret Hard Point.
EDIT: Mentioned that it has no sensor recalibration time reduction.


I haz an idea. It can be a faction scanny Marauder / mini carrier \o/ bask in the OPness

Hi- 7
Med- 5
Low- 8

Turret Hardpoints- 3

Drone Bay: 800m3 (yes, its main weapon system is drones, and the exploration/long deployment thing yadda yadda)
Drone Bandwidth: 250mbit/sec
Cargo Hold: 985m3 (again with the long deployment theme)

Role Bonus: 70% Reduction in Micro Jump Drive recharge time
Role Bonus: 37.5% increase Scan Probe Strength
Role Bonus: +15 Virus strength for Relic and Data Analyzers (to make a exploration battleship reasonable to use)

Can fit Bastion Module

Amarr Battleship Skill Bonus per level:
4% bonus to armor resistances

Gallente Battleship Skill Bonus per level:
Can launch 1 additional drone per level


Because: science!
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#67 - 2013-11-28 05:45:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Chimpface Holocaust wrote:


I haz an idea. It can be a faction scanny Marauder / mini carrier \o/ bask in the OPness

Hi- 7
Med- 5
Low- 8

Turret Hardpoints- 3

Drone Bay: 800m3 (yes, its main weapon system is drones, and the exploration/long deployment thing yadda yadda)
Drone Bandwidth: 250mbit/sec
Cargo Hold: 985m3 (again with the long deployment theme)

Role Bonus: 70% Reduction in Micro Jump Drive recharge time
Role Bonus: 37.5% increase Scan Probe Strength
Role Bonus: +15 Virus strength for Relic and Data Analyzers (to make a exploration battleship reasonable to use)

Can fit Bastion Module

Amarr Battleship Skill Bonus per level:
4% bonus to armor resistances

Gallente Battleship Skill Bonus per level:
Can launch 1 additional drone per level


Because: science!

Now Now, let's not let this get too out of hand! Big smile

"A City made of Dreams is built in heaven"
Tessen
Stellar Tide
#68 - 2013-11-28 12:40:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Tessen
I like the drawing.
Even if it have something from Eclipse class in SW.

Considering slots layout :
Astero is 4/4/2
Stratios is 5/5/5
Each race have some constants : Cadari have more med slots, Amarr have more low etc.
Look like SOE have same number for Low and Med.
This BS should be 6/6/6

Stats are OP.
Moreover fitting Covert Op Cloack should be for Black Ops only.
However, this SOE BS could become the 1st faction Black Ops with stats according to existing BO.

The name : /me laught. It's a shame this name look definitive.
"Nestor" word have some history in French. And it is definitively not a name for à Battleship.
xKOMODOx
#69 - 2013-11-28 16:20:47 UTC  |  Edited by: xKOMODOx
This one looks interesting and very appropriate with the SOE line

SOE Battleship-Tiamat
or
Naru-Kami model SOE Battleship
Chimpface Holocaust
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#70 - 2013-11-28 19:59:06 UTC
Now say OPness

out loud
The Spod
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#71 - 2013-11-28 22:07:07 UTC
SOE battleship introduction is a good chance to push black ops towards covops cloak ability. Make it so.

And write a lore about the cloaking systems of SOE (stratios info) being leaked.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#72 - 2013-11-29 01:31:19 UTC
xKOMODOx wrote:
This one looks interesting and very appropriate with the SOE line

SOE Battleship-Tiamat
or
Naru-Kami model SOE Battleship

I really like the disign of that "Tiamat" one- the only thing is that the ship's name is already confirmed as the "Nestor" in the game files. Also, it just needs a ring :P

I really like it, though- and what a weird coincidence that a ship design from a contest from 2010 would have the same color scheme! Big smile

"A City made of Dreams is built in heaven"
Lux Or
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#73 - 2013-11-29 07:25:49 UTC
looks interesting :)
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#74 - 2013-11-29 07:32:27 UTC
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:
xKOMODOx wrote:
This one looks interesting and very appropriate with the SOE line

SOE Battleship-Tiamat
or
Naru-Kami model SOE Battleship

I really like the disign of that "Tiamat" one- the only thing is that the ship's name is already confirmed as the "Nestor" in the game files. Also, it just needs a ring :P

I really like it, though- and what a weird coincidence that a ship design from a contest from 2010 would have the same color scheme! Big smile

I like the Naru-Kami the best. Make it white with some red accents and we're off to the races!

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#75 - 2013-11-29 19:28:12 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
I like the Naru-Kami the best. Make it white with some red accents and we're off to the races!

Well I honestly like them both a lot- I tend to go for a more "Space Battleship Yamato"-esque look Big smile

But yeah, change the color scheme and add a ring and that'd make a pretty nice ship itself!

"A City made of Dreams is built in heaven"
Mikkir
SHINKETSU Inc.
#76 - 2013-11-29 19:39:22 UTC
Just as a completely outside take on the SOE ships is a focus on the humanitarian side of the history with logistics ships. Maybe 'out of size logistics ships' if they ever added faction destroyers and battle cruisers. I only bring it up because I think that having a logistics battleship hull would be interesting for MJD capable support ships for battleship fleets.

But carry on with the OP's idea, I was more musing then actually sharing a well formed argument.
Freako X
Doom Inc
#77 - 2013-11-29 22:28:44 UTC
Chimpface Holocaust wrote:
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:
Hey everyone- So I've been really excited for all of the SoE ships we're getting, and even more so for the BS, which is coming out in a point release a little after Rubicon hits.

So I was inspired, and drew up a picture of it- ignore the rambling text if you'd like, but I put a decent amount of work into this:

My design for the Nestor.

I actually took some inspiration from Sisi's placeholder model (the star destroyer-esque model) and incorporated it into the picture- I felt like it matched SoE's aesthetic well. Then I molded parts similar to the other SoE ships onto it and mixed it all together.

I also wrote some improvised stats up for it :

Hi- 7
Med- 5
Low- 8

Turret Hardpoints- 5

Drone Bay: 475m3 (yes, its main weapon system is drones, and the exploration/long deployment thing yadda yadda)
Drone Bandwidth: 125mbit/sec
Cargo Hold: 985m3 (again with the long deployment theme)

Role Bonus: 37.5% Bonus to Large Energy Turret tracking speed, optimal range and accuracy falloff
Role Bonus: 37.5% increase Scan Probe Strength
Role Bonus: +15 Virus strength for Relic and Data Analyzers (to make a exploration battleship reasonable to use)

HAS NO SENSOR RECALIBRATION TIME REDUCTION. (to keep the cloak from being OP)

Can fit covert ops cloaking devices (like the others)

Amarr Battleship Skill Bonus per level:
4% bonus to armor resistances

Gallente Battleship Skill Bonus per level:
10% bonus to drone damage and hit points

I am changing these stats as time goes on, in order to balance them with current ship stats.

Tell me what you think- I'd love for CCP to see this and use my drawing as its design Lol

Thanks for reading.

EDIT: Changed 5% Amarr BS Bonus to 4%.
EDIT: Removed one Medium Power slot.
EDIT: Changed 10% Gallente BS Bonus to 7.5%.
EDIT: Changed Both BS Bonuses again, added Role Bonuses.
EDIT: Changed Both BS Bonuses again, changed virus strength bonus.
EDIT: Added 37.5% Role Bonus to Large Energy Turret tracking.
EDIT: Changed Gallente BS Bonus again.
EDIT: Added Turret Hardpoint Number.
EDIT: Changed Gallente BS Bonus and Role Bonus again.
EDIT: Changed Role Bonus again.
EDIT: Removed one High Power slot, changed Turret Hard Points to 4.
EDIT: Gave 1 High Power slot back, added 1 Turret Hard Point.
EDIT: Mentioned that it has no sensor recalibration time reduction.


I haz an idea. It can be a faction scanny Marauder / mini carrier \o/ bask in the OPness

Hi- 7
Med- 5
Low- 8

Turret Hardpoints- 3

Drone Bay: 800m3 (yes, its main weapon system is drones, and the exploration/long deployment thing yadda yadda)
Drone Bandwidth: 250mbit/sec
Cargo Hold: 985m3 (again with the long deployment theme)

Role Bonus: 70% Reduction in Micro Jump Drive recharge time
Role Bonus: 37.5% increase Scan Probe Strength
Role Bonus: +15 Virus strength for Relic and Data Analyzers (to make a exploration battleship reasonable to use)

Can fit Bastion Module

Amarr Battleship Skill Bonus per level:
4% bonus to armor resistances

Gallente Battleship Skill Bonus per level:
Can launch 1 additional drone per level


Because: science!


One drone per skill point is too much. 5 bits bandwidth per skill point ... not so much. 5/5 Gal BS = one more sentry. I think you'd need to maintain a drone dmg increase as well.

Design? A - for effort. I think it is too angular. Needs to be a bit more lithe and boxy at the same time.
Kueyen
Angharradh's Aegis
#78 - 2013-11-30 00:26:27 UTC
Behold: http://i.imgur.com/9gSs7J8.jpg

Discuss!

Until all are free...
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#79 - 2013-11-30 00:26:57 UTC
Freako X wrote:


One drone per skill point is too much. 5 bits bandwidth per skill point ... not so much. 5/5 Gal BS = one more sentry. I think you'd need to maintain a drone dmg increase as well.

Design? A - for effort. I think it is too angular. Needs to be a bit more lithe and boxy at the same time.


Well I'd say that having 6 total drones could be potentially very overpowered- I'd rather keep it a 5 total and work from there. Otherwise, it'd be the only drone boat really worth using.

And I see what you mean about the design- I left a lot of the more intricate detailing out of it, as it's only a draft drawing, but it could maybe do with a little more boxiness- I took a lot from star wars and space battleship yamato, subconsciously, I thinkBig smile

"A City made of Dreams is built in heaven"
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#80 - 2013-11-30 00:36:55 UTC
Kueyen wrote:
Behold: http://i.imgur.com/9gSs7J8.jpg

Discuss!

Ahh, interesting! Where'd you find that? I like the design a lot and it definitely had a LOT of work into it- it looks like some sort of space stationBig smile My only problem with it is that everything looks a little too evenly distributed- maybe if the ring was closer to the other end..?

But that's amazing work, regardless! I just feel like it looks a little.. fragile to be a battleship.

"A City made of Dreams is built in heaven"