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Caldari and missiles pvp ?

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lollerwaffle
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2013-11-25 09:33:42 UTC
Chris Carlyle wrote:
Errende Ebecee wrote:
Yes, missiles suck in PvP. Damage missiles do is based on target's velocity and signature radius. Which means any enemy ship using skirmish links, and show me one that won't, will laught at your damage, and missiles' damage isn't exactly good to begin with.

And before you say that velocity and sig affect turrets as well, it does but can be mitigated by good piloting. Missiles suck no matter what you do.


This sounds like Caldari, or at least it's missile boats, are anything but optimal in PvP. Are you suggesting it's wise to cross-train another race for PvP?

Not really, it depends on the situation you find yourself in, and what kind of gang composition you have. While they might not have the stellar DPS of turrets WHEN they have no tracking issues AND are hitting within their optimal, missiles ships aren't too subject to that kind of conditions and will hit for steady DPS throughout, as long as the target is within range.

Depends on your needs and situation TBH. There will be times you think, "man, if only I were flying a gunship" and times you're glad you're in a missileboat (e.g. nanodrakes + long range arazu/lachesis combos will screw up any BS gang with equal numbers)

Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2013-11-25 10:01:39 UTC
There's another quirk about missile boats: auto-targeting missiles can be a nasty surprise if you're up against a small gang that brings a jammer. I had one day recently in which I got into two different scraps with a small squad that had a Griffin for backup; the first time, my Condor kept shooting Scourge ATLM's at the Griffin until it warped off, leaving its wingman helpless; the second time, the Griffin jammed me out, but I actually killed it.

The next time I tried using the ATLM tactic against a Griffin, though, the missiles fixated on a plex rat, so it's far from a perfect solution.

"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegurt

Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#23 - 2013-11-25 15:42:49 UTC
yep, that is probably the only advantage a missile boat has over a gun boat

if your sensor dampened to 1m or pretty much perma jammed via ecm
that gun boat is toast, at least with auto-targeting missiles you can continue putting out dps onto something somewhere
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