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Viera Lynn
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-11-13 02:13:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Viera Lynn
Let me preface this idea a little please bear with me.
Brackets. you spend nearly your entire time looking at little brackets which represent ships in space. the size of the bracket represents the size of the ship, a small bracket denotes a frigate/inty and a big one battleships correct? but in combat especially fleet these tiny little brackets look identical, well i propose to do away with our current brackets in place of a far more effective means of displaying ship type/size at a glance, in fact ccp is already doing it though i dont know if they plan to expand on this idea, which is what i hope to further in this thread.

While browsing the news i came across the ISIS and this little gem http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/65332/1/Ship_Group_Icons.png

Quote:
This will exist in the ISIS only to begin with, but if these icons prove successful in giving quick feedback on ship groups, we don't see why they couldn't be used in other areas of the game.


Why not replace all in game brackets with the new ISIS icons, imagine seeing an entire enemy fleet and instantly knowing their ship comps without having to browse through the overview and sorting tabs.

Please +1 if you think this is a good feature
Zerlestes
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-11-13 02:22:39 UTC
+1 i like the idea
Viera Lynn
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-11-13 02:28:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Viera Lynn
I hijacked an old features pic and 2 mins to edit here is a rough draft of what it could look like



ideally the icon would face the same as the ship also giving you info on direction it is heading instead of just a static box.
Think sins of solar a empire
Karma Codolle
Chimera Research and Development
#4 - 2013-11-13 04:57:51 UTC
+1 i like this idea.
Caldari 5
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S
Affirmative.
#5 - 2013-11-13 06:13:43 UTC
Yay, I've always hated the "Brackets" not being able to tell the difference between an Industrial and a Battleship without looking at the type column and then trying to remember the Name of the ship type and what type of ship it is.
Viera Lynn
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-11-13 06:35:12 UTC
agreed and i hope that if we show overwhelming support for this idea, perhaps the csm can get it pushed through for the next expansion or even rubicon 1.1
it's so simple and will improve the game so much, in my opinion anyway =)
Oberine Noriepa
#7 - 2013-11-13 07:27:58 UTC
Viera Lynn wrote:
I hijacked an old features pic and 2 mins to edit here is a rough draft of what it could look like

http://postimg.org/image/scl5ynoxv/

ideally the icon would face the same as the ship also giving you info on direction it is heading instead of just a static box.
Think sins of solar a empire http://futurismic.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/sins-of-a-solar-empire-20080201024158335.jpg

I like this a lot. The directional stuff is a good idea.

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Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
#8 - 2013-11-13 07:42:13 UTC
So a bit more "Homeworld" like then? They've already said that they are wanting to this I think so I'm not sure this is a Feature or Idea?

Personally, I like brackets, it's damn hard trying to rep a ship in a fleet when it's in amongst a furball with brackets off I know that much but I fully support CCP in bringing class type brackets in even if it's just on the Tactical Overlay.

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Viera Lynn
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-11-13 07:53:46 UTC
Maximus Aerelius wrote:
So a bit more "Homeworld" like then? They've already said that they are wanting to this I think so I'm not sure this is a Feature or Idea?

Personally, I like brackets, it's damn hard trying to rep a ship in a fleet when it's in amongst a furball with brackets off I know that much but I fully support CCP in bringing class type brackets in even if it's just on the Tactical Overlay.


well the idea is to get rid of the "brackets" we have now with a more functional ship icon that conveys information more directly without the guess work of "is that a cruiser or battleship sized bracket?"
Trii Seo
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2013-11-13 08:03:47 UTC
This is actually a good idea. The UI should be simple an informative and those icons are way better than simple brackets.

Also, while functional they'd give the interface a nice SciFi look. So, +1 from me to that.

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Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
#11 - 2013-11-13 08:09:53 UTC
/me puts glasses on...nods head.

Ah, I'm with you now. Just got the coffee hitting my system now and I see what you've done on the overview. I have to agree with you. Working out the .5mm difference in box size to what the ship is is a bit of a PITA.

+1 from me and apologies for my dumbarse comment.

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Laner Irondoll
Hideaway Hunters
The Hideaway.
#12 - 2013-11-13 08:22:44 UTC
+1
Thelonious Blake
Miles Research and Development
#13 - 2013-11-13 08:26:36 UTC
The ISIS icons rely also on size as an identification.

While your idea is interesting I personally don't think those icons will give you much more information than what we already have except more visual clutter during fleet battles.
Viera Lynn
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-11-13 08:35:57 UTC
Thelonious Blake wrote:
The ISIS icons rely also on size as an identification.

While your idea is interesting I personally don't think those icons will give you much more information than what we already have except more visual clutter during fleet battles.


If you look at the icons, every one is geometrically different, so size and shape together, where what we have now is just... terrible.
marVLs
#15 - 2013-11-13 08:37:48 UTC
+1
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2013-11-13 08:43:38 UTC
Viera Lynn wrote:
Let me preface this idea a little please bear with me.
Brackets. you spend nearly your entire time looking at little brackets which represent ships in space. the size of the bracket represents the size of the ship, a small bracket denotes a frigate/inty and a big one battleships correct? but in combat especially fleet these tiny little brackets look identical, well i propose to do away with our current brackets in place of a far more effective means of displaying ship type/size at a glance, in fact ccp is already doing it though i dont know if they plan to expand on this idea, which is what i hope to further in this thread.

While browsing the news i came across the ISIS and this little gem http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/65332/1/Ship_Group_Icons.png

Quote:
This will exist in the ISIS only to begin with, but if these icons prove successful in giving quick feedback on ship groups, we don't see why they couldn't be used in other areas of the game.


Why not replace all in game brackets with the new ISIS icons, imagine seeing an entire enemy fleet and instantly knowing their ship comps without having to browse through the overview and sorting tabs.

Please +1 if you think this is a good feature



In large fleets the result might not be as visually appealing as you think.

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Viera Lynn
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-11-13 08:47:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Viera Lynn
I would imagine an option to use the legacy brackets would remain for those who dont like change =P

this isnt very visually appealing either though.
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#18 - 2013-11-13 08:50:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Debora Tsung
Viera Lynn wrote:
Thelonious Blake wrote:
The ISIS icons rely also on size as an identification.

While your idea is interesting I personally don't think those icons will give you much more information than what we already have except more visual clutter during fleet battles.


If you look at the icons, every one is geometrically different, so size and shape together, where what we have now is just... terrible.


True, but every one of that icons is a variation of the same basic form, so more diversification might be wanted.

For example you could keep the little red cross for some ship class while another just gets a circle or a simple square and a triangle for yet another ship class etc. etc.

The wonders of geometry supply us with a multitude of easily recognizable forms, even at such small scales as 5mm.

I like your idea tho, just to be clear, that really would be better than ever the same bracket in different sizes.

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Viera Lynn
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-11-13 09:04:10 UTC
or even a customizable set you could choose from and customize icons to your preference.
Electrique Wizard
Mutually Lucrative Business Proposals
#20 - 2013-11-13 09:48:26 UTC
Very nice +1

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