EVE General Discussion

Lolwut?

How is WiS not EVE content?

WiS is a part of EVE and will continue to be developed, so your comments make no sense.

You do realize you will never HAVE to step into a station ever, right?
You do realize that WiS WILL draw more people to EVE that will bring more money to CCP
for them to use to further develop ALL of the game, right?

I'll never understand how you and others are so affraid of the expansion of variety and popularity
of EVE as to be so rude as you have been. Everytime I read one of these close-minded WiS hating
posts I cant help but get the image of the "I'll take my ball and go home" kid from the school playground.
Hate to break it to you, but EVE is not THAT sandbox.

Stop being so rude. Stop being such a hater. Start to add some reasonable open minded input or
just keep it to yourself.

OP I'd like to see WIS eventually too, but let's face it: it's not going to happen anytime soon so let's all just move past this until an announcement is made that CCP is ready to deliver it. Which probably won't be for some years..

I think we need gasoline fights on the hangar loading bay. Everyone loves a good gasoline fight.

Haha you fell for the hype

You left out some important things like four new ships, T2 ammo fixes, supercaps getting a much-needed nerf, hybrid weapons fix, destroyer balancing pass, a whole bunch of new T2 modules. All together these are things the playerbase has been asking for (some of them for years) whereas nobody asked for $70 monocles, a rusted out room, and a melted video card.

"winter bathroom expansion 2011" the longest wizz i'll eve take

I've been touting this around... If EVE is to survive long term, there must be at least one form of gameplay that is not a dead end. If I recall the specific number, the average life cycle of a rookie is 6 months. That is a major major problem. That is the one problem that will ultimately kill EVE, possibly sooner than anyone expects.

Why is the life cycle of a rookie 6 months? Because there is no single feature in EVE that is worth doing for longer than 6 months. CCP prides itself on not making content, but on making tools to allow players to make the content. If CCP tries to make content (graphics, funsies ships and modules that don't affect the status quo, walking in stations) they MUST make sure those alone extend the life of some gameplay by 6 months until the next expansion, else EVE is dying for that expansion. Making tools to allow players to create the content is much harder. Balance it too far one way or the other, and either special interest groups dominate everyone else out of the sandbox, or it's not worth doing at all (examples, nullsec and FW respectively.)

Now, honestly, what are CCP's best development options, right this second, to provide gameplay where rookies will not get bored after 6 months? I'll take a second to point out that games like Mass Effect take years to put together but provide enough content for 12-30 hours of gameplay depending on the game and the player.

A system like the sov system, or FW are probably the easiest areas to "fix" since there is already an established base of player created content (assuming CCP can balance it in a way to make long term players have to fight to keep it and newer players a reasonable way to take it, which thus far they have more or less continually failed.)

Consider the tools in place for sov and FW those to work... not just the sov/occupancy mechanics, but that there are 80+ different spaceships, hundreds of pieces of equipment to equip, a full physics and combat engine, the industrial and marketing infrastructure to put the tools in the hands of the people, and basically EVERYTHING in EVE. Now consider what it would take to create a full suite comparable tools all from scratch, promote player adoption of those tools, and have them all connect in a meaningful way to the other tools already in existence. The hard part of developing Incarna hasn't even begun.

I DEMAND STRIP BARS WITH EXOTIC DANCERS!!! IF I WANTED FiS I WOULD PLAY WOW. I NEED BARBIE FIX!!!!

AND I WANT TO TALK TO MY CORPSES IN CQ. AND WATCH THAT BIG TV WITH THEM.

DO THIS OR I WILL UNSUB MY 1 ACC

No... WiS isn't content either, without there being an activity to engage in.

Content is gameplay that keeps someone active. Content is something that inspires people to log on and do something. PI is content. Mining is content. Ratting and Missioning are content. Creating POS is content. Even Wardeccing is content (albiet player-made).

Walking around in a one-room cell with nothing to do isn't content either, because no one logs on just to do that.

The reason I support the idea of WiS is because is promises more content (more things to do), such as items we can craft and establishments we can operate.

I'd like a POD-Room please, I'd like to "spawn" there.