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Only scrubs pay to play EVE

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Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#1 - 2013-11-12 17:50:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Carmen Electra
*** 'MURICA ALERT ***

I've always had a sense that paying for your EVE subscription with PLEX basically equated to working for less than minimum wage, but I never actually ran the numbers.

So let's see. I pay for a yearly sub (hint: saves money), which comes out to $10.95/mo. Let's just say that you earn minimum wage at $7.25/hr. PLEX is currently 606m isk.

Minimum wage:
1 month of EVE = 1.5hrs of work.
ISK/hr needed to beat this: 404m.

$50k/yr = $25/hr:
1 month of EVE = 26 minutes of work.
ISK/hr needed to beat this: 1.4b

$100k/yr = $50/hr:
1 month of EVE = 13 minutes of work.
ISK/hr needed to beat this: 2.8b

*** END 'MURICA ALERT ***

I'm pretty good at grinding up ISK in EVE, and I know I certainly can't make that reliably and consistently. No, that one time you got a Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster from that 6/10 does not mean you make 1b ISK/hr.

CONCLUSION

EVE is dying. I quit EVE.

Bacon makes us stronger
cpu939
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-11-12 17:52:28 UTC
can i have your stuff
Nikita Dacella
Nexus Incorporated
#3 - 2013-11-12 17:52:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Nikita Dacella
Hint: It's a computer game, not a job. You play because it's entertaining.

Also EVE has been dying for the last 10 years, and will keep dying for the next 20 years. In the end you will be right.
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-11-12 17:52:50 UTC
I have not payed for EVE in years, nor grinded for ISK in years. vOv

Sky Captain of Your Heart

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Dkeh Weis
Digital Innovations
#5 - 2013-11-12 17:52:51 UTC
cpu939 wrote:
can i have your stuff

Eve will make you work a solid month all on your own for your first cookie. Then kick you in the nuts and take that cookie, and laugh at you for thinking you could have a cookie at all.
Zions Child
Higashikata Industries
#6 - 2013-11-12 17:53:35 UTC
Confirming that economic analysis of opportunity costs is inappropriate when discussing leisure activities because people don't make decisions that way.

Mind you, if EVE is a job for you, then you may as well quit.
Cyrus Alabel
Azure Wrath
#7 - 2013-11-12 17:53:43 UTC
Posting in a stealth buff hisec thread.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#8 - 2013-11-12 17:54:36 UTC
Nikita Dacella wrote:
Hint: It's a computer game, not a job. You play because it's entertaining.


which is exactly why its better to pay with cash! at least for your main accounts.

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.
Anslo
Scope Works
#9 - 2013-11-12 17:55:19 UTC
God dammit Carmen, stop snorting coke.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Zuai
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-11-12 17:55:47 UTC
You sound upset sir.

May I please have your ships and modules?
MestariBation
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2013-11-12 17:57:09 UTC
WHITE TRASH ALERT!!!

Send me isk im poor
Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#12 - 2013-11-12 17:57:12 UTC
Zions Child wrote:
Confirming that economic analysis of opportunity costs is inappropriate when discussing leisure activities because people don't make decisions that way.

Mind you, if EVE is a job for you, then you may as well quit.


It's appropriate if and when someone suggests that you should PLEX your account Ugh

Bacon makes us stronger
Carebears Countdown 5-4-3-2-1
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-11-12 17:57:43 UTC
What the **** kind of thread is this?

You can only earn so much money in your RL job. When you come home for 2 hours, you have a choice:
- Watch some ****** show
- Jerk it to porn since your girl left you 3 months ago
- Grind ISK in some MMO that you only play due to having OCD

If you could decide, "okay, I won't grind ISK, I'll go work for $10 an hour" it would be logical not to pay for PLEX with ISK.
That's not the case however.
Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#14 - 2013-11-12 17:58:02 UTC
I do not want your stuff! But if you insist..

Just because i am blond does not make me stoopid !
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-11-12 17:58:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Abdiel Kavash
Your observation is correct and well-known.

However what you fail to account for is that for some people playing EVE for 4 hours is more enjoyable than working for one hour. Thus they choose the former instead of the latter.

Your ISK/hour can also skyrocket pretty fast when you start doing activities which require short setup and a long waiting period (market, moon reactions, etc.)

Regardless of that, I agree that the mentality of "I have to grind X ISK per month to pay for my account" is pretty dumb.
Tollen Gallen
Glory of Reprisal Enterprise
#16 - 2013-11-12 17:58:42 UTC
I like Battleships.

Zimmy Zeta - I f*cking love martinis. the original ones, with gin, not that vodka martini crap. Your old Friends can use me for 7 days, free!!!
Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#17 - 2013-11-12 18:00:51 UTC
Anslo wrote:
God dammit Carmen, stop snorting coke.


OHAI Anslo

Bacon makes us stronger
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2013-11-12 18:05:08 UTC
Confirming I'm subbed only for the forums and that means I make ****/hr by ways of isk. I sometimes log in just to chat though.

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#19 - 2013-11-12 18:06:33 UTC
Carmen Electra wrote:
*** 'MURICA ALERT ***

I've always had a sense that paying for your EVE subscription with PLEX basically equated to working for less than minimum wage, but I never actually ran the numbers.

So let's see. I pay for a yearly sub (hint: saves money), which comes out to $10.95/mo. Let's just say that you earn minimum wage at $7.25/hr. PLEX is currently 606m isk.

Minimum wage:
1 month of EVE = 1.5hrs of work.
ISK/hr needed to beat this: 404m.

$50k/yr = $25/hr:
1 month of EVE = 26 minutes of work.
ISK/hr needed to beat this: 1.4b

$100k/yr = $50/hr:
1 month of EVE = 13 minutes of work.
ISK/hr needed to beat this: 2.8b

*** END 'MURICA ALERT ***

I'm pretty good at grinding up ISK in EVE, and I know I certainly can't make that reliably and consistently. No, that one time you got a Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster from that 6/10 does not mean you make 1b ISK/hr.

CONCLUSION

EVE is dying. I quit EVE.


The problem with trying to equate working on a job with making isk to buy plex to play EVE is that I can't work my job from home, butt naked while drinking beer and chatting with my buds over teamspeak.
Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#20 - 2013-11-12 18:07:11 UTC
Jake Warbird wrote:
Confirming I'm subbed only for the forums and that means I make ****/hr by ways of isk. I sometimes log in just to chat though.


Scope chat best chat channel on internet. Need to be able to do this via iOS or something.

Bacon makes us stronger
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