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30B loan request @ 6% short term (Full)
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Speculation Dave
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#1 - 2013-11-10 17:14:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Speculation Dave
Hello again!

I am looking for a new loan to help with my latest speculation.

I want to borrow 30B for 1-2 months and I am willing to offer 6% each month for that.

I will be using the isk to buy speculation stock in jita 4-4 station and I will not be moving it out of the station. I wil sell the stock after rubicon. I dont think that I will need more than 1 month to do this but I am asking for 1-2 months just to be sure.

I have no collateral I can offer right now. So I dont mind having more than one investor but please at least 1B each or it will be a pain.

Here are the links to my old loans which have all been paid:-

2B loan request @ 10% for 2 weeks
20B loan request @ 2% long term
30B loan request @ 6% medium term
10B loan @ 4% for 3 weeks
60B loan refinance @ 2% long term

Thank you for your time!
RAW23
#2 - 2013-11-10 21:48:42 UTC
It looks like all your previous loans have been collateralised with the exception of the first 2bil one. Going from 2bil to 30bil seems like quite a big jump ...

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those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.
Rahne Sentro
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-11-11 02:30:33 UTC
If you're speculating 8 days before patch drops, you're too late.
Speculation Dave
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#4 - 2013-11-11 07:04:58 UTC
RAW23 wrote:
It looks like all your previous loans have been collateralised with the exception of the first 2bil one. Going from 2bil to 30bil seems like quite a big jump ...

Good morning!

I have done two uncollateral loans here are the links

2B loan request @ 10% for 2 weeks
30B loan request @ 6% medium term

The 30B was uncollateralised for one month before I refinanced when manufacturing was done and I had collateral again. I dont like uncollateralised loans because they are expensive but sometimes I cannot avoid it and the profits are worth it.
Speculation Dave
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#5 - 2013-11-11 07:11:17 UTC
Rahne Sentro wrote:
If you're speculating 8 days before patch drops, you're too late.

You might think that, I couldn't possibly comment!
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#6 - 2013-11-11 10:42:10 UTC
Rahne Sentro wrote:
If you're speculating 8 days before patch drops, you're too late.
Actually, if he's speculating on inaccurate speculations, he is just in time. And I think there are going to be quite a few of those this patch.

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Speculation Dave
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#7 - 2013-11-11 11:47:49 UTC
Speculation Dave wrote:
20B loan request @ 2% long term

This loan was ast 2.5% not 2% sorry for any confusion. It is just the old topic/title nothing else.
RAW23
#8 - 2013-11-11 12:31:59 UTC
Speculation Dave wrote:
RAW23 wrote:
It looks like all your previous loans have been collateralised with the exception of the first 2bil one. Going from 2bil to 30bil seems like quite a big jump ...

Good morning!

I have done two uncollateral loans here are the links

2B loan request @ 10% for 2 weeks
30B loan request @ 6% medium term

The 30B was uncollateralised for one month before I refinanced when manufacturing was done and I had collateral again. I dont like uncollateralised loans because they are expensive but sometimes I cannot avoid it and the profits are worth it.


Would you be able to get Blueprint Seller to confirm that the loan was made without collateral. It is a little unclear in the thread exactly what arrangement you came to but what he initially offers you is the isk in exchange for a collateralised arrangement. You guys then go off and discuss things out of thread but there is little clarity about what arrangement you actually arrived at.

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.
Speculation Dave
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#9 - 2013-11-11 12:41:43 UTC
RAW23 wrote:
Would you be able to get Blueprint Seller to confirm that the loan was made without collateral. It is a little unclear in the thread exactly what arrangement you came to but what he initially offers you is the isk in exchange for a collateralised arrangement. You guys then go off and discuss things out of thread but there is little clarity about what arrangement you actually arrived at.

I mailed him as I made the first post and I was kinda expecting him to have posted by now
Blueprint Seller
Bring Me Sunshine
#10 - 2013-11-11 14:34:25 UTC
Speculation Dave wrote:
Rahne Sentro wrote:
If you're speculating 8 days before patch drops, you're too late.

You might think that, I couldn't possibly comment!
The timing is less than ideal for me.

RAW23 wrote:
Would you be able to get Blueprint Seller to confirm that the loan was made without collateral.
I can confirm that it was uncollateralised at 6% for one month, but then became collateralised at 2% until it was repaid. This was a requirement I imposed after discussing Dave's business plan. I did not make the loan in isk, but in 30B of minerals delivered at a set date, as this was mutually advantageous at the time.

Speculation Dave wrote:
I mailed him as I made the first post and I was kinda expecting him to have posted by now
Sorry if I am late, but I am having a hell of a day and you did not really give me any notice.
Speculation Dave
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#11 - 2013-11-12 08:26:52 UTC
Thanks Blue!
Blueprint Seller
Bring Me Sunshine
#12 - 2013-11-12 18:18:34 UTC
I will take 18B, which is all I have available right now.

Sorry if my previous post was a little terse, I've been away from home on business and enjoying the pleasures of very poor motels for the last five days. It appears to have made me grumpy.
Speculation Dave
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#13 - 2013-11-12 18:53:24 UTC
Awesome!
I LIKE IT
HIGH RISK INVESTMENT
#14 - 2013-11-12 19:43:31 UTC
YOU ARE UGLY AND YOUR RATE IS ****

I HAVE DISPATCHED RIDERS WITH 500 OF MY FINEST FRUITS
Speculation Dave
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#15 - 2013-11-12 19:50:59 UTC
Thanks wierdo!
Blueprint Seller
Bring Me Sunshine
#16 - 2013-11-13 05:46:39 UTC
18B sent.
Steiner Schulze
Doomheim
#17 - 2013-11-13 06:31:06 UTC
I'd like to reserve 2b on behalf of my corp. I'll send the money when the rest of the money is covered
Speculation Dave
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#18 - 2013-11-13 07:56:21 UTC
Thanks!

9.5B left now!
Mr JLB Matekoni
Doomheim
#19 - 2013-11-14 11:22:55 UTC
Does 9.5 remain? If it is so, please allow me to invest that amount.
Speculation Dave
Bring Me Sunshine
In Tea We Trust
#20 - 2013-11-14 12:40:53 UTC
Awesome!

Received:
Blueprint Seller 18B
I Like It 0.5B

Not received yet:
Steiner Schulze 2B
jlb Matekoni 9.5B
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