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Why does null-sec want to conquer high-sec?
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#121 - 2013-11-12 01:57:59 UTC
Edam Neadenil wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Edam Neadenil wrote:
As far as Rubicon and the proposed changes to status ... I have no problems with the few PI planets I have in 0.5 systems going to a lower sec status providing the resources increase to match my 0.2 and 0.3 planets.

Down Khanid way there are a lot of mini losec "islands" of one or two systems and I assume these will all be now linked as a continuous stretch of losec, that may well be a good thing for anyone trying to get serious work done as there will be fewer gatecamp systems enroute.

Oooh, going into lowsec, how ~daring~



well ... live in losec with the alt in question

... and never see many null people .. just locals and highsec people

... and when on occasion we go into null to ninja or gank miners they see a neutral in system and run and hide :D

i see your mordus angels hotdropper cyno alt

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#122 - 2013-11-12 04:36:50 UTC
People who actually play the game don't appear to have any hatred or desire to destroy anything. I think the OPs question was a little loaded and assumes much. I'll always be first to point out the contradictions of nullsec rage and complaints, but even this is a bit much of a blanket statement.


Bring back DEEEEP Space!
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#123 - 2013-11-12 04:53:31 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
People who actually play the game don't appear to have any hatred or desire to destroy anything. I think the OPs question was a little loaded and assumes much. I'll always be first to point out the contradictions of nullsec rage and complaints, but even this is a bit much of a blanket statement.




Highsec is too good because highsec is too good. ~Nerf Highsec~

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#124 - 2013-11-12 05:35:48 UTC
Guess test will beat us to the highsec riches

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#125 - 2013-11-12 09:54:10 UTC
You never played on a PVP server before....

They don't want to take it over, they just want to kill people. It doesn't matter if its in the ass end of null, or in the newbie system 1.0 with a 3 minute old player.

Corpse is a corpse.

(it ain't about fair fights, its about fights, period).

Yaay!!!!
E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#126 - 2013-11-12 14:27:11 UTC
Johan Civire wrote:
Shiloh Templeton wrote:
The direction of Rubicon and recent events make me wonder why null groups even care about high-sec. Mocking them I understand, but why be so fervent about destroying the mechanics of high-sec? Null already has their own space, and if high-sec brings more subscribers into the game then that gives CCP more money to develop the game for everyone, doesn't it?

So I did a qoogle search and found this topic in a thread from a year ago: Why does nullsec care so much about what highsec is doing?

Which referenced this article in the body: The Big Lie: The Fallacies of Demonisation

I think these are well worth the read for newer subscribers.

It seems the people in null really aren't that happy. Either they're in a system they control with not much they want to do, or they're in a massive battle with TIDI, bubbles, being a spec in a blob, or waiting for their FC to tell them what to do next. So they look over at high-sec and think what a fat, juicy target that they could completely burn and destroy in about three days. Damn the consequences because it would be a lot of fun for those three days.

Instead of sacrificing high-sec, maybe it would be better for CCP to figure out how to make the null alliances happy with where they are.




Dude stop it just stop. Stop making those topic. Just stop it. This is your 20ste post.... or so. Same topic over and over again.

Someone forcing you to read his post??
Red Teufel
Calamitous-Intent
#127 - 2013-11-12 14:30:35 UTC
highsec bears need to be controlled and herded. It is the natural order of things.
Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#128 - 2013-11-12 14:38:51 UTC
Phoenix Jones wrote:
You never played on a PVP server before....

They don't want to take it over, they just want to kill people. It doesn't matter if its in the ass end of null, or in the newbie system 1.0 with a 3 minute old player.

Corpse is a corpse.

(it ain't about fair fights, its about fights, period).


Actually, I don't think this is entirely true for Eve. A 3 minute old player doesn't have the sense of entitlement you'll find in a 3 year old highsec miner, who will act like a literal 3 year old over even the most trivial things like ship bumping. Those are the people who are fun to kill in "unfair" fights.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#129 - 2013-11-12 14:43:05 UTC
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
Phoenix Jones wrote:
You never played on a PVP server before....

They don't want to take it over, they just want to kill people. It doesn't matter if its in the ass end of null, or in the newbie system 1.0 with a 3 minute old player.

Corpse is a corpse.

(it ain't about fair fights, its about fights, period).


Actually, I don't think this is entirely true for Eve. A 3 minute old player doesn't have the sense of entitlement you'll find in a 3 year old highsec miner, who will act like a literal 3 year old over even the most trivial things like ship bumping. Those are the people who are fun to kill in "unfair" fights.

Jumping into nullsec
into a bubbled gate
under the guns of a fleet's worth of sentry drones
assisted to the FC

:getin:

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Ahnajhatae
Hypnotic Anarchy
Fraternity.
#130 - 2013-11-12 15:09:43 UTC
KuroVolt wrote:
I can no longer live this lie.

You are right, OP.

2 weeks ago there was a mandatory meeting for -ALL- Null sec pilots to attend.

There the GBNSC [the Global Directors of the Null Sec Cartels] informed us that the time to strike was upon us.
The years of mock battles and fake practise wars has trained us for this very moment.
Years we pretended that we were all fighting one another when in actuality, we were just preparing.
Burn Jita? The Hulkagedons? ...All just small experiments to locate cracks in the armour.

But now its time...

On the 12th of December, the blue donut will finally reveal itself and crush the High sec forces and their pathetic Concord overlords!


Prepare yourself, OP...Null sec is coming...


O joy. And after you conquer high sec then what? Get bored with nothing to do and go back to WoW?
E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#131 - 2013-11-12 16:10:37 UTC
Ahnajhatae wrote:
KuroVolt wrote:
I can no longer live this lie.

You are right, OP.

2 weeks ago there was a mandatory meeting for -ALL- Null sec pilots to attend.

There the GBNSC [the Global Directors of the Null Sec Cartels] informed us that the time to strike was upon us.
The years of mock battles and fake practise wars has trained us for this very moment.
Years we pretended that we were all fighting one another when in actuality, we were just preparing.
Burn Jita? The Hulkagedons? ...All just small experiments to locate cracks in the armour.

But now its time...

On the 12th of December, the blue donut will finally reveal itself and crush the High sec forces and their pathetic Concord overlords!


Prepare yourself, OP...Null sec is coming...


O joy. And after you conquer high sec then what? Get bored with nothing to do and go back to WoW?

The dont want to conquer just break it so that people in hi-sec are just as misserable as they are.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#132 - 2013-11-12 16:12:50 UTC
Ahnajhatae wrote:
KuroVolt wrote:
I can no longer live this lie.

You are right, OP.

2 weeks ago there was a mandatory meeting for -ALL- Null sec pilots to attend.

There the GBNSC [the Global Directors of the Null Sec Cartels] informed us that the time to strike was upon us.
The years of mock battles and fake practise wars has trained us for this very moment.
Years we pretended that we were all fighting one another when in actuality, we were just preparing.
Burn Jita? The Hulkagedons? ...All just small experiments to locate cracks in the armour.

But now its time...

On the 12th of December, the blue donut will finally reveal itself and crush the High sec forces and their pathetic Concord overlords!


Prepare yourself, OP...Null sec is coming...


O joy. And after you conquer high sec then what? Get bored with nothing to do and go back to WoW?

not when progodlegend's coalition, the n3, exist to destroy us and we and they continue to exist

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#133 - 2013-11-12 16:24:06 UTC
Really we're the victims here.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#134 - 2013-11-12 16:27:36 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Ahnajhatae wrote:

O joy. And after you conquer high sec then what? Get bored with nothing to do and go back to WoW?

The dont want to conquer just break it so that people in hi-sec are just as misserable as they are.


It amazes me the things people need to delude themselves into believing just to play a space video game.
Baaldor
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#135 - 2013-11-12 16:37:10 UTC
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Ahnajhatae wrote:

O joy. And after you conquer high sec then what? Get bored with nothing to do and go back to WoW?

The dont want to conquer just break it so that people in hi-sec are just as misserable as they are.


It amazes me the things people need to delude themselves into believing just to play a space video game.


To fill their emptiness...and to give it meaning.....
Anslo
Scope Works
#136 - 2013-11-12 16:55:30 UTC
EI Digin wrote:
Here's a real answer for you:

All actions in this game have consequences.

You may think you live in your own little world in highsec but the actions you take have effects on the ways that other people play the game. You may not be able to see the effects by yourself but if you group together the actions of like-minded players you can see that there are huge changes that may not necessarily be in the game's best interest.

Nullsec is not looking to conquer highsec. Nullsec is looking to have existing content balanced to make the game more fair and entertaining for everyone, and that starts by accepting that all actions have consequences.

So because people aren't suffering for innocuous actions, they need to suffer?

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Lyris Nairn
Perkone
Caldari State
#137 - 2013-11-12 17:17:28 UTC
I'm pretty sure most PVPers are happy to shoot things.

Sky Captain of Your Heart

Reddit: lyris_nairn Skype: lyris.nairn Twitter: @lyris_nairn
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#138 - 2013-11-12 17:29:57 UTC
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Ahnajhatae wrote:

O joy. And after you conquer high sec then what? Get bored with nothing to do and go back to WoW?

The dont want to conquer just break it so that people in hi-sec are just as misserable as they are.


It amazes me the things people need to delude themselves into believing just to play a space video game.


Personally. Id still play eve even if it had nothing to do with space or spaceships.
Thats not what defines EVE for me.

Thats also why all the people threatening to leave for SC are hilarious to me.

BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.
Maldiro Selkurk
Radiation Sickness
#139 - 2013-11-12 18:58:38 UTC
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
I really do think the POCO changes and the siphons are both intended by CCP to give things for highsec players to do besides mine and run missions. I think they imagine highsec corps warring over POCOs, and highsec thieves venturing out into low and null to ninja harvest moon minerals. Whether those will be the actual uses of the tools they've delivered or not is subject to debate, but I really do believe that those are their intentions.


If this is true, which by the way i doubt, then CCP has a serious lack of understanding of what kind of game he highsec crowd wants and is willing to play.

Yawn,  I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
Ghost Phius
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#140 - 2013-11-12 19:02:21 UTC
Maldiro Selkurk wrote:

If this is true, which by the way i doubt, then CCP has a serious lack of understanding of what kind of game he highsec crowd wants and is willing to play.



LOL good one.