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CCP, please let us, the players help the Philipphines!

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Samroski
Middle-Earth
#161 - 2013-11-13 14:41:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Samroski
RAW23 wrote:
Samroski wrote:

Opposition to previous charity drives nearly made me loose faith in the Eve community. The opposition was especially intense for the Pakistan drive where the prevalent sentiment appeared to be, "they deserve what they got, so let them die."



I don't remember the Pakistan one, only Haiti and Japan. Must have missed it somehow.

The Pakistan drive

old forums thread

eve-search thread

Edit: Fixed the link for the old forums thread.

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RAW23
#162 - 2013-11-13 14:49:50 UTC
Samroski wrote:
RAW23 wrote:
Samroski wrote:

Opposition to previous charity drives nearly made me loose faith in the Eve community. The opposition was especially intense for the Pakistan drive where the prevalent sentiment appeared to be, "they deserve what they got, so let them die."



I don't remember the Pakistan one, only Haiti and Japan. Must have missed it somehow.

The Pakistan drive

the thread

eve-search thread



Ugh Didn't get past page one but that must be officially the most depressing thread ever.

Glad to see CCP managed to raise 40k even so.

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Lugalbandak
Doomheim
#163 - 2013-11-13 15:24:49 UTC
yes help gangs for more rice

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Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#164 - 2013-11-13 16:03:37 UTC
RAW23 wrote:


Ugh Didn't get past page one but that must be officially the most depressing thread ever.

Glad to see CCP managed to raise 40k even so.




I agree....that is possibly the most depressing thing I have read on Eve-O

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Dracnys
#165 - 2013-11-13 21:43:24 UTC
This is the most important thread on the forums right now. It totally deserves at least one CCP answer.

I get that it would look bad for CCP to say outright no or say that they can't do it for some other reason but just ignoring the issue is an answer in itself. On the other hand we had three other emergency drives already so I can't see how this shouldn't work. The scale of disaster certainly qualifies and there are lots of players that would love to help.
Kaserin Smarte
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#166 - 2013-11-13 22:39:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Kaserin Smarte
Sorry if this comment does not belong here but....

I have an idea for the future of EVE and a chance for CCP to give back easily & all the time. My idea is that CCP takes all the ISK that gets taken but goes no where. You know the ISK that I give to a station for the use of its facilities or w.e. The ISK that just goes to no one in EVE. I forget what that is called a ISK drain maybe I don't know. CCP could take all that ISK & instead of making it disappear they could collect it. They could either take all of the ISK or a certain % of it & use that to give to charities. They could hold monthly, quarterly, or w.e events. Where we the players vote on a charity to give that months or w.e earnings to a charity. These events could also be used by players to set up their own player events. Where they get their corps/alliances to just dump massive amounts of ISK into the drains. Then CCP could just put a simple poll up on the website of charities for us to choose from. We could even give the isk to top 3 (maybe top 5 or however many the math lets us) most voted for instead of just 1 charity. OP your group could lead the charge for this change. Now I don't know the mechanics behind these "ISK drains" and maybe it wont work but it was just a thought. Once again I am sorry if this was too off topic.
Zions Child
Higashikata Industries
#167 - 2013-11-13 23:30:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Zions Child
Kaserin Smarte wrote:
Sorry if this comment does not belong here but....

I have an idea for the future of EVE and a chance for CCP to give back easily & all the time. My idea is that CCP takes all the ISK that gets taken but goes no where. You know the ISK that I give to a station for the use of its facilities or w.e. The ISK that just goes to no one in EVE. I forget what that is called a ISK drain maybe I don't know. CCP could take all that ISK & instead of making it disappear they could collect it. They could either take all of the ISK or a certain % of it & use that to give to charities. They could hold monthly, quarterly, or w.e events. Where we the players vote on a charity to give that months or w.e earnings to a charity. These events could also be used by players to set up their own player events. Where they get their corps/alliances to just dump massive amounts of ISK into the drains. Then CCP could just put a simple poll up on the website of charities for us to choose from. We could even give the isk to top 3 (maybe top 5 or however many the math lets us) most voted for instead of just 1 charity. OP your group could lead the charge for this change. Now I don't know the mechanics behind these "ISK drains" and maybe it wont work but it was just a thought. Once again I am sorry if this was too off topic.



The point of isk drains is to take money out of the market - the only slight possible transfer of EVE isk for real money is through purchasing PLEX, which are worth about $15 to CCP.

Anyways, the isk drains in EVE are VERY large. If CCP were to dump all that fake EVE monies for PLEX, which are real monies (at least for CCP), the entire PLEX economy would collapse. Probably overnight.

Basically, it would be massive intervention that would destroy the EVE economy - and in the long run, reduce sales for CCP (the people who buy PLEX to sell for isk tend to not be particularly price sensitive to isk and only buy what PLEX they need for whatever they have to purchase - on the other side, people who buy PLEX with isk tend to be more sensitive to the price of a subscription, and may stop playing EVE if PLEX becomes out of reach for them).

Basically, it's better the way it is.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#168 - 2013-11-13 23:32:04 UTC
Kaserin Smarte wrote:
Sorry if this comment does not belong here but....

I have an idea for the future of EVE and a chance for CCP to give back easily & all the time. My idea is that CCP takes all the ISK that gets taken but goes no where. You know the ISK that I give to a station for the use of its facilities or w.e. The ISK that just goes to no one in EVE. I forget what that is called a ISK drain maybe I don't know. CCP could take all that ISK & instead of making it disappear they could collect it. They could either take all of the ISK or a certain % of it & use that to give to charities. They could hold monthly, quarterly, or w.e events. Where we the players vote on a charity to give that months or w.e earnings to a charity. These events could also be used by players to set up their own player events. Where they get their corps/alliances to just dump massive amounts of ISK into the drains. Then CCP could just put a simple poll up on the website of charities for us to choose from. We could even give the isk to top 3 (maybe top 5 or however many the math lets us) most voted for instead of just 1 charity. OP your group could lead the charge for this change. Now I don't know the mechanics behind these "ISK drains" and maybe it wont work but it was just a thought. Once again I am sorry if this was too off topic.



Won't work. Those ISK drains are there to reduce inflation, your suggestion would see the ISK pumped back into the economy which would cause the PLEX price to skyrocket.

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#169 - 2013-11-13 23:35:51 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
A newborn player has just sent 10M to the charity: probably all he had. He also opted to remain anonymous.

I am going to send him 100M off my personal wallet for the gesture!

/bows


Vaerah Vahrokha - EVE's second ever legit ISK doubler :)

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Tengu Skunkworks
T3 Aerospace Industries
#170 - 2013-11-13 23:37:47 UTC
Cant support this cause more!
Ashina Sito
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#171 - 2013-11-14 04:33:02 UTC
Do it and I will donate PLEX too.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#172 - 2013-11-14 08:07:43 UTC
More donations are trickling in, I'll update the list when I get back home.

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Nanatoa
#173 - 2013-11-14 10:41:22 UTC
There's a dev reply in the duplicate thread which was bumped excessively.

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Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#174 - 2013-11-14 10:51:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Zappity
Beekeeper Bob wrote:
Why not actually send them money, rather than use in game isk to cover your donations?
Giving money out of your pocket means something, giving meaningless money from within a game is just weak.

Why not read some of the explanations (eg Rhivre's) since your last similar query? YES, sending money will probably be best. YES, doing this as well would be better. AND good for CCP's reputation/visibility which is also good for the game.

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Samroski
Middle-Earth
#175 - 2013-11-14 10:56:40 UTC
Nanatoa wrote:
There's a dev reply in the duplicate thread which was bumped excessively.

Think I'm going to refrain from commenting.

Reminds me of Supertramp and becoming cynical...

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Krashion
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#176 - 2013-11-14 11:45:55 UTC
Samroski wrote:
Nanatoa wrote:
There's a dev reply in the duplicate thread which was bumped excessively.

Think I'm going to refrain from commenting.

Reminds me of Supertramp and becoming cynical...



CCP really do make me sick
CCP Falcon
#177 - 2013-11-14 12:34:21 UTC
Hey guys,

I didn't see this thread until just now, but I've offered a response in the other one...

I'll lock this thread now, and divert you there for further information, as we have a few duplicates floating around on the forums.

Thanks! <3

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Hitomi Desu
Vagabond Association
#178 - 2013-11-14 12:56:13 UTC
Either CCP enables us to send money through sinking PLEX to various organizations or they drop the whole idea.

I don't see why we should send ISK through another player so he purchases PLEX and then he struggles with getting CCP to transform those ISKies/PLEX into RL money to send it to whatever fund he currently thinks of.
While I doubt that Vaerah has bad intentions the process is intransparent and it creates a monopoly.

I'm all for a tool that enables us to throw in PLEX and then we can select to which fund the money should go to - kinda like on humblebundle.
But handing over this decision to another pilot is what doesn't sit well with me. Besides all the hypocrite hate you get from questioning the whole thing.