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[Suggestion]: Character rename for PLEX

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Tora Hamaji
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-11-09 14:01:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Tora Hamaji
As the title says.

Currently it's possible to trade characters legally, remap attributes for plex, and sometimes change name if deemed insulting in some languages.

One of the most annoying things about Character trade is that you can't truly make a character you buy to be yours, since the name was chosen by someone else. often a character has a perfect skill profile to suit your need, but a ridiculous name that just doesn't fit you.

it's already possible if flagged for name change when reported for some insulting names. So why not simply allow renaming for plex?


Edit: this feature should not be a way to purge identity and history. the previous names MUST be listed under character info somewhere.
The character should also be found when someone searches for the old name.
scammers and spies souldn't be able to escape the consequences with just a simple name change.
Meyr
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
OnlyFleets.
#2 - 2013-11-09 16:05:27 UTC
Tora Hamaji wrote:
As the title says.

Currently it's possible to trade characters legally, remap attributes for plex, and sometimes change name if deemed insulting in some languages.

One of the most annoying things about Character trade is that you can't truly make a character you buy to be yours, since the name was chosen by someone else. often a character has a perfect skill profile to suit your need, but a ridiculous name that just doesn't fit you.

it's already possible if flagged for name change when reported for some insulting names. So why not simply allow renaming for plex?



This actually makes sense.

+1

But only at the time of character purchase. Not just randomly deciding one afternoon to change a name you've had for a year.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#3 - 2013-11-09 16:27:03 UTC
I keep voting no on such features, has to be some downside to trying to buy your way ahead...

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Salpad
Carebears with Attitude
#4 - 2013-11-09 16:28:00 UTC
Tora Hamaji wrote:
Currently it's possible to trade characters legally, remap attributes for plex, and sometimes change name if deemed insulting in some languages.


I know of one player whose name was ALL IN CAPS. He had to jump through some hoops, but in the end he was allowed to get a name change to the same name except not All In Caps.

But as for bought name changes, sure that sounds like an excellent PLEX/ISK sink. CCP just needs to add a "Name History" tab to the character page, so everyone can see such name changes, and also all characters who have had their names changed within the last X months need to be flagged as such everywhere that trust is an issue, i.e. in Contracts and so forth. For at least X=6, and more likely X=12.
supernova ranger
The End of Eternity
#5 - 2013-11-09 16:56:51 UTC
I would just add the option of renaming characters for an extra plex during the character bazaar transfer process
Tora Hamaji
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2013-11-09 17:13:15 UTC
Chribba wrote:
I keep voting no on such features, has to be some downside to trying to buy your way ahead...



The time it takes to grind and farm enough isk to buy a character, in addition to 2 plexes just for the transfer is already a big downside.

Not all characters bought are for getting a way ahead. often people buy low sp characters for minimal tasks such as a freighter pilot.

And most importantly, its not only for those who buy characters. a lot of people end up hating the name they chose once when they were drunk, and now they're stuck with it forever just because?

P.S editing the OP to include that the name change and previous name SHOULD be visible forever and searchable, just not the headline name.
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Horse Feathers
CAStabouts
#7 - 2013-11-09 22:39:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Perhaps as an extra cost when buying a character, and only at the time of the trade. Would also need a list of previous aliases to be attached to the character, whose prior names kept reserved and attached to it, so they still link to the proper person.

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Wapu Kashuken
Serenity Rising LLC
Controlled Chaos
#8 - 2013-11-09 23:20:13 UTC
Tora Hamaji wrote:
As the title says.

Currently it's possible to trade characters legally, remap attributes for plex, and sometimes change name if deemed insulting in some languages.

One of the most annoying things about Character trade is that you can't truly make a character you buy to be yours, since the name was chosen by someone else. often a character has a perfect skill profile to suit your need, but a ridiculous name that just doesn't fit you.

it's already possible if flagged for name change when reported for some insulting names. So why not simply allow renaming for plex?


Edit: this feature should not be a way to purge identity and history. the previous names MUST be listed under character info somewhere.
The character should also be found when someone searches for the old name.
scammers and spies shouldn't be able to escape the consequences with just a simple name change.



No. Can't think of anything worse than the capability of selling the same toon back to yourself, change the name, and continue ganking people with no name/history linkage.
Tora Hamaji
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-11-09 23:32:04 UTC
Wapu Kashuken wrote:
Tora Hamaji wrote:
As the title says.

Currently it's possible to trade characters legally, remap attributes for plex, and sometimes change name if deemed insulting in some languages.

One of the most annoying things about Character trade is that you can't truly make a character you buy to be yours, since the name was chosen by someone else. often a character has a perfect skill profile to suit your need, but a ridiculous name that just doesn't fit you.

it's already possible if flagged for name change when reported for some insulting names. So why not simply allow renaming for plex?


Edit: this feature should not be a way to purge identity and history. the previous names MUST be listed under character info somewhere.
The character should also be found when someone searches for the old name.
scammers and spies shouldn't be able to escape the consequences with just a simple name change.



No. Can't think of anything worse than the capability of selling the same toon back to yourself, change the name, and continue ganking people with no name/history linkage.



If you want to comment on an idea then at least read the whole post genius!
Evei Shard
Shard Industries
#10 - 2013-11-09 23:51:00 UTC
Chribba wrote:
I keep voting no on such features, has to be some downside to trying to buy your way ahead...


Have you noticed though over the past few years that these threads are gaining more and more positive response?

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Tora Hamaji
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2013-11-13 15:46:23 UTC
Evei Shard wrote:
Chribba wrote:
I keep voting no on such features, has to be some downside to trying to buy your way ahead...


Have you noticed though over the past few years that these threads are gaining more and more positive response?


I don't think he understood my post at all.
Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Republic Military Tax Avoiders
#12 - 2013-11-13 16:01:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Kirimeena D'Zbrkesbris
Evei Shard wrote:
Chribba wrote:
I keep voting no on such features, has to be some downside to trying to buy your way ahead...


Have you noticed though over the past few years that these threads are gaining more and more positive response?

Because CCP gradually simplifies things in EvE. As a result more and more casual players come to the game and voice their casual opinions and ideas on forums.

Opinions are like assholes. Everybody got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks.

Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2013-11-13 16:20:00 UTC
No. You should have to choose between getting/keeping the the name you really like and getting more SP quickly via the character bazaar.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#14 - 2013-11-13 16:21:41 UTC
Tora Hamaji wrote:

One of the most annoying things about Character trade is that you can't truly make a character you buy to be yours, since the name was chosen by someone else. often a character has a perfect skill profile to suit your need, but a ridiculous name that just doesn't fit you.


Then buy one with a better name or train your own character. Getting someone else's used goods is just part of the deal. If you don't like it, then don't sell your characters every time you AFK from the game for a few months like some people do.

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Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-11-13 16:28:30 UTC
+1 but i wouldnt make it for plex, the original name wont be listed but it can only done after a character trade
Aldanar Vorlax
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2013-11-13 16:40:49 UTC
Chribba wrote:
I keep voting no on such features, has to be some downside to trying to buy your way ahead...


While I agree with this I see no reason why this couldn't be implemented but in a very restrictive form. Just an idea that will probably need to be expanded on:

Upon transfer the character is granted the option of a name change for a PLEX, however this can only be done ONCE on the character. So if the character gets transferred again and the character renaming has been used the option wont be available to the new owner as it has already been used. So:

1) Characters can only be named once, with a tab on the character profile of the previous characters alias

2) Add value to characters if the name change has been used or not



Simc0m
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-11-22 03:37:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Simc0m
There's probably a ton of plex for name change threads, but I'm going to give you a +1 anyway.

I like this idea because I prefer to carry my identity across multiple toons. When I log in I want everyone to know that it's me: Simcom 1, Simcom 2, Simcom 3 etc. The only reason I've never considered buying a toon is because nobody would know it was me when I logged on. Besides maintaining your identity, there's lots of reasons why this is a great idea. It would be a boon to the character bazaar, people would be able to fly around with a name that they like, CCP would make money off each name change and the extra activity on the character bazaar would mean more money for CCP in character transfer fees. Things like this may seem small to some players, but they are very important to players like myself.
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#18 - 2013-11-22 04:37:50 UTC
The idea is that your reputation follows you forever- you can't escape it that easily Big smile
Anomaly One
Doomheim
#19 - 2013-11-22 04:43:59 UTC
Quote:
Because CCP gradually simplifies things in EvE. As a result more and more casual players come to the game and voice their casual opinions and ideas on forums.


Yup, and no to the OP. Your character is what you make it (or buy it)

Quote:
truly make a character you buy to be yours,


Because in some sense it isn't yours, you bought it not created it.

Quote:
the previous names MUST be listed under character info somewhere.


the bad thing about this is that to identify an old character you would have to go through each character you meet and check their old names (e.g a guy named "X" changed to "Y" how will I know unless I check previous names.. will I get a notification ? and if a lot of people on my watchlist change names am I gonna get a notification for each one, and if I don't have them on my watchlist?..) it's not needed, especially when I go to low sec I know who to look out for in some systems, this just gives them a slight edge in masking their identity.

You bought a character, deal with the consequences.
I'm kinda surprised that someone who buys characters actually cares if it holds a name or not, aren't they like tools for you..

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Endovior
PFU Consortium
#20 - 2013-11-22 07:22:39 UTC
If the name change is purely cosmetic, and in no way interferes with the ability of people to track down the character, I don't see any reason why this shouldn't be implemented. Presumably, this would involve another tab on the character screen, 'Known Aliases' or something, but that should be doable.

Really, there's no good reason not to have this. Whining from gerontocrats over the ways young upstarts use to level the playing field does not constitute a 'good reason'. As EVE gets older, buying characters becomes a more and more reasonable prospect, after all. Since that's something which is allowed, and something which makes CCP money, I don't see any reason why additional conveniences might be offered as well.

For that matter, I don't see any reason why people might not pay a PLEX-based fee to rename themselves in general; 'when buying a character' is obviously a good place to change your name, but there are other legitimate reasons to do so... so why not let CCP make a bit of extra cash? What's good for CCP is good for EVE.
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