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What do you think of capsuleers with a large employment history?
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Caldari 5
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S
Affirmative.
#21 - 2013-11-09 12:15:46 UTC
Victoria Sin wrote:
It depends why they jumped. I have some toons who have lots of "jumps". They mostly jump between the same corp and noob corp and back again. Why? Well, corp standings to anchor POS is high sec. If I want to move a POS, I have to empty the corp of low standing toons, letting them back in again once the POS is up.

This is an understandable reason, and quite frankly this kind of hopping is fine, its when it is different corps that it flies a red flag.

The number of corps is not really the problem, its the consistency of time that is normally the issue

This is a red flag eg:
Player Corp A - 5 to 10 days
Noob Corp - Doesn't matter
Player Corp B - 5 to 10 days
Noob Corp - Doesn't matter
Player Corp C - 5 to 10 days
Noob Corp - Doesn't matter
Player Corp D- 5 to 10 days
Noob Corp - Doesn't matter
Player Corp F - 5 to 10 days
Noob Corp - Doesn't matter
etc

This is more likely to be fine eg:
Player Corp A - 5 to 10 Months
Noob Corp - Doesn't matter
Player Corp B - 5 to 10 days
Noob Corp - Doesn't matter
Player Corp C - 1 to 2 Years
Noob Corp - Doesn't matter
Player Corp D- 5 to 10 Months
Noob Corp - Doesn't matter
Player Corp F - 1 to 2 Years
Noob Corp - Doesn't matter
etc

Same number of corp jumps, but because the first example is all short stints, it reeks of an awoxer or theif etc

More likely to reject the first example without even bothering to do a Full API Check or Comms interview.
Caytii
Accelerated Cognition
#22 - 2013-11-09 12:31:56 UTC
I rarely can stand to spend more than 3-4 months in the same corp - curiously this hasn't affected me getting into the corps I want to join so far.

It takes about 4-6 weeks until the new car smell has worn off and then another 8-12 weeks of fighting myself not to quit. Eventually I lose that battle and enjoy the most beautiful freedom for 1-2 months (the first month after finally quitting a corp is the best time in EVE) until I get bored of my own irrelevance and start looking for a corp again.

The reason for my behavior is that most EVE players start to infuriate me with their thoughts and behavior once i get to know them (they have stupid and unreflected political views, they like to brag about in-game "achievements" that are none, they are racist, misogynistic and homophobic [not even talking about memes here, they're for real and often don't even realize], they don't understand my jokes, ...), I just don't seem to have a lot in common with the typical EVE player in terms of general outlook and interests.

And when my mind is already tilted because of frustration with their in-game behavior (no, ganking lone travellers with a fleet of 20 is not skilled small-scale pvp, stop lying to yourselves and to everyone else ffs) then one stupid sentence will send me into blaze of rage.

It's the same in real-life. I joined various political groups when I was younger and the level of narrowminded stupidity in those groups always drove me away after a few months (Don't look at me like I'm the devil incarnate just because I told you to read some Marx ffs; yes we are conservatives but that doesn't excuse you spouting off uninformed bullshit about Marxism when it is obvious that you have never read any of his works. Here are the Grundrisse now read up or shut up) . I have a handful of very stable friendships with individuals but other than that I try to stay away from socializing and larger groups. It's just not worth the frustration and rage.

However, in EVE refusing to group up limits you much more than doing the same irl does, so I always end up in another player corp after a month or two of flying solo.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#23 - 2013-11-09 12:34:30 UTC
I leave corps because I am bored. Some corps get boring very quickly.
Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#24 - 2013-11-09 12:46:17 UTC
Sometimes Im worried that my corp history might get me in trouble in the future but then again I dont really want in a corp that needs to worry about awoxers.

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Dyvim Slorm
Coven of the Morrigan
#25 - 2013-11-09 12:51:11 UTC
Xen Solarus wrote:
It's quite simple, people with large employment histories aren't to be trusted. If they only spend a short time in each corp, they're likely to continue to do so, and it's a big indicator that they are a thief, awoxer or general scumbag.


It rather depends on what you define as a "short time". When I have time to be online I like to help new corps get started but I will only stay for a month or two until they are on their feet or have failed. I do tell them this at the start though.

As a generality, anyone that only stays in a corp for a day or two at a time and is a relatively new character is probably an awoxer
Taal Khurin
Acorn Harvesting
#26 - 2013-11-09 13:00:03 UTC
If they have a long history of corps that they have only stayed in for a short while then that's dodgy, but if they have a mix of short and a few long ones then i don't see a problem
Serptimis
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2013-11-09 13:03:04 UTC
Caytii wrote:
...the typical EVE player ....

Yeah, there is no 'typical' EVE player. Just ordinary people from every walk of life that happen to share an interest in gaming and spaceships. When you think that everyone else is the problem, its probably only the one you see in the mirror.
Snakebyte Jack
AcT Legion
#28 - 2013-11-09 13:04:53 UTC
Wawarp Dridrive ActActive wrote:
I find it absurd to jump from one corp to the next one within just few weeks or even days.

Don't you care about the lamentable image you are projecting about yourself? Anyone can see you deserve no trust, because you are quitting at first problem you encounter. Or maybe you are just an awoxer or a corp thief. What other reason to act like this?

Check for example character Urodus. Seriously WTF?

It is OK that you have lived in crappy corporations here and there, but anyone systematically dropping their new corp everytime... oh well it is lame. Still the desperate recruiters keep allowing these impatient/i-dont-know-what-i-want scummers onto their failure corporations.




If this is really how you think, then you're an idiot.
Gealbhan
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#29 - 2013-11-09 13:10:37 UTC
I think for a 2007 toon my employment history is average. Arrow
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#30 - 2013-11-09 13:33:46 UTC
Who cares.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Dasola
New Edens Freeports
#31 - 2013-11-09 13:47:30 UTC
I do agree. It not the long history, its more of how long have you stayed. Very short stays usually indicate problems.

We are Minmatar, Our ship are made of scraps, but look what our scraps can do...
Freakdevil
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2013-11-09 14:10:27 UTC
Some people can't make up their mind, who the frak cares? Well actually you would be surprised. ALOT of people seem to care.

Blue alliance years ago blew up a friendly Titan because they suspected the guy of being a spy. So it is a factor unfortunately. And it can cause your character and in fact your IP address to be screwed when joining larger corps/alliances. So decide wisely.

Probably a reason why so many people don't join corps and meet new people. And that is very sad indeed. But then again this game thrives on misery and destruction. So it is par for the course.
PhalHell
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2013-11-09 14:27:20 UTC
Look at mine...the only reason is that I created corps for people that wanted a POS in highsec for a while. Thats how I made my Billions
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#34 - 2013-11-09 14:42:09 UTC
Jump freighter pilot.

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
cyndrogen
The Greatest Corp in the Universe
#35 - 2013-11-09 14:48:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Cyndrogen
Join our corp we are awesome!
Player joins corp.
CEO leaves for months. Corp members inactive.

Join our corp we are awesome!
Player joins corp.
Corp gets perma wardeced the minute you join.
No one in corp logs in or is willing to fight.

Join our corp we are awesome saucier!
Player joins corp.
Corp tax is raised to 80% for all and asks you donate for null rent on top.

and on and on and on....

Every day in every way I improve my skills and get better.
Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#36 - 2013-11-09 15:24:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Seraph Essael
Bare in mind there are a lot of corps out there that state "we do this, and we do that and we do the specific thing you're looking for", when actually, they really dont do any of it.

My friend (won't name names) has a stupidly high corp list, he's a 2008 character, but he's had corps that claim to do a lot and then don't deliver.

There are far too many corps that actually claim to be active and do lots, when actually they dont do an aweful lot really. Not to mention theres a lot of corps that have (for example) 112 people in it, when actually there are only 15 people with a lot of alts.

Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#37 - 2013-11-09 16:10:49 UTC
Wawarp Dridrive ActActive wrote:
I find it absurd to jump from one corp to the next one within just few weeks or even days.

Check for example character Urodus. Seriously WTF?




Sometimes you have to go where the fun is.... and as for that guy ^^^ I think he creates pre-fab 1-man corps with POS/Standings for customers.

I know, I know. Whoddathunkit, right ? A purely legit reason to hop corps every week... Roll

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SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2013-11-09 16:14:07 UTC
Captain Stupid wrote:
I have an employment history longer than my arm, but if asked could explain every switch on there.

Yep, same here. People seem to judge by employment history quickly but it's hard finding the right corporation to spend more than a couple of months in if you're new and want to try a bit of every avenue in EVE, some are lucky and find this quickly.

I disagree
Faceless Parmala
State War Academy
Caldari State
#39 - 2013-11-09 16:35:20 UTC
Wawarp Dridrive ActActive wrote:
I find it absurd to jump from one corp to the next one within just few weeks or even days.

Don't you care about the lamentable image you are projecting about yourself? Anyone can see you deserve no trust, because you are quitting at first problem you encounter. Or maybe you are just an awoxer or a corp thief. What other reason to act like this?

Check for example character Urodus. Seriously WTF?

It is OK that you have lived in crappy corporations here and there, but anyone systematically dropping their new corp everytime... oh well it is lame. Still the desperate recruiters keep allowing these impatient/i-dont-know-what-i-want scummers onto their failure corporations.





I think you can realy trust a guy with a large employment history. You have lots of past ceo's to talk too...as for being an awoxer just look at the guys kb.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#40 - 2013-11-09 16:43:00 UTC
http://eveboard.com/global/pilot/M'uva_Wa'eva just passed 1,500 rows in her employment list.

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