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Nice Job CCP. Now Can We All Get 17m Free Skillpoints Also?

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Darius JOHNSON
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#141 - 2013-11-08 23:13:16 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Kate stark wrote:
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Honestly, y'all need to chill.

So some nub that Erotica managed to scam (or however he managed to get the API) got some SP. What's this guy gonna do, fit t2 mining lasers to his hulk? The SP is non-transferable.

Going over every tiny interaction CCP has with its player base will accomplish nothing, it will only deaden the communication channels that exist between the player base and the devs.


think you've pretty much missed the point.

No, I understand the point perfectly, and I agree that CCP shouldn't reward or compensate for stupidity (see my first post). I just don't think that it's worth picking this particular fight with CCP at this particular time.


The problem here is it doesn't fit Erotica 1's attempt at creating a scandal if it's not a tremendous deal. This is pretty transparent and silly.

It's certainly an issue and CCP should go over it and probably reverse their decision but holy christ is this a ham handed attempt at manufacturing drama.
Agent Kailethre
Tengoo Uninstallation Service
#142 - 2013-11-08 23:14:17 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Kate stark wrote:
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Honestly, y'all need to chill.

So some nub that Erotica managed to scam (or however he managed to get the API) got some SP. What's this guy gonna do, fit t2 mining lasers to his hulk? The SP is non-transferable.

Going over every tiny interaction CCP has with its player base will accomplish nothing, it will only deaden the communication channels that exist between the player base and the devs.


think you've pretty much missed the point.

No, I understand the point perfectly, and I agree that CCP shouldn't reward or compensate for stupidity (see my first post). I just don't think that it's worth picking this particular fight with CCP at this particular time.



If we don't show up and yell at CCP that they're doing something wrong, then how will they ever know they've done wrong? We need to let them know, or let the game slowly begin to wither and die.

i think i am pretty kawaii =333
Darius JOHNSON
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#143 - 2013-11-08 23:15:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Darius JOHNSON
Kate stark wrote:
Darius JOHNSON wrote:
Nathalie LaPorte wrote:
Darius JOHNSON wrote:


If you don't know CCP's policies well enough to know that they can't discuss this with you then perhaps you should spend more time understanding what you're mad about before you get mad about it and act the fool. The fact that as best as I can tell you're all lowest denominator eve bottom feeders only makes your apparent sense of entitlement more interesting.


Keep spewing out insults while calling everyone else mad, it's a good look.


It's not an insult. It's a statement of fact. There sure are a lot of hurt NPC corp characters in this thread!


i've never understood the relevance of your corp in relation to forum posts.


The perception is that if a character is actively in a corp with some kind of history it's not just the OP's 7 alts pretend raging in order to give the appearance of scandal in their manufactured drama thread.

:edit: whether that's actually the case or not. That's the perception.
Joshu Mumon
Doomheim
#144 - 2013-11-08 23:16:07 UTC
Deplorable.
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#145 - 2013-11-08 23:16:09 UTC
Darius JOHNSON wrote:
There sure are a lot of hurt NPC corp characters in this thread!


And one hurt GSF character

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Nathalie LaPorte
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#146 - 2013-11-08 23:16:55 UTC
Darius JOHNSON wrote:


It's certainly an issue and CCP should go over it and probably reverse their decision but holy christ is this a ham handed attempt at manufacturing drama.


Since the most successful parts of the drama are your posts in this thread, I think we can safely say that hands made out of ham are perfectly suited for your resistance holes.
Frying Doom
#147 - 2013-11-08 23:17:19 UTC
Darius JOHNSON wrote:
The problem here is it doesn't fit Erotica 1's attempt at creating a scandal if it's not a tremendous deal. This is pretty transparent and silly.

It's certainly an issue and CCP should go over it and probably reverse their decision but holy christ is this a ham handed attempt at manufacturing drama.

Actually I think CCP has done a good job of manufacturing the drama.

The article like all those before it on TMC and EvE News 24, have just brought them into the light.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Kate stark
#148 - 2013-11-08 23:18:55 UTC
Darius JOHNSON wrote:
Kate stark wrote:
Darius JOHNSON wrote:
Nathalie LaPorte wrote:
Darius JOHNSON wrote:


If you don't know CCP's policies well enough to know that they can't discuss this with you then perhaps you should spend more time understanding what you're mad about before you get mad about it and act the fool. The fact that as best as I can tell you're all lowest denominator eve bottom feeders only makes your apparent sense of entitlement more interesting.


Keep spewing out insults while calling everyone else mad, it's a good look.


It's not an insult. It's a statement of fact. There sure are a lot of hurt NPC corp characters in this thread!


i've never understood the relevance of your corp in relation to forum posts.


The perception is that if a character is actively in a corp with some kind of history it's not just the OP's 7 alts pretend raging in order to give the appearance of scandal in their manufactured drama thread.

:edit: whether that's actually the case or not. That's the perception.


so it's just the fallback comment for people who have no real point to make but want to post anyway?

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#149 - 2013-11-08 23:19:40 UTC  |  Edited by: ElQuirko
ElQuirko wrote:
Darius JOHNSON wrote:
ElQuirko wrote:
Darius JOHNSON wrote:
I don't even know what the hell that second bit is supposed to mean.


Go back to school, take some English lessons. You don't seem to be able to comprehend much of what is said, despite its perfectly passable language.

There was nothing passable about this sentence. Just stop.

Let's play "spot the error".

I'm going to begin the game without you. In that post, there wasn't one.

I'd also like to invite you to reconsider your first judgement. Despite the dodgy placement of "please" after that use of the imperative mood, the grammar is still sound. And I really can't believe you resorted to picking up on language in the first place, in this of all forums.

Dodixie > Hek
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#150 - 2013-11-08 23:22:50 UTC
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
TigerXtrm wrote:
Can we PLEASE go a few weeks without some self proclaimed CCP scandal? Thanks...


Self proclaimed?

How about fully documented?



Self proclaimed.

From CCP's point of view:

"Wow, this guy got scammed good. What an idiot. Let's just give the moron his SP back as a one time favor, no harm done."

From the entitled forum trolls' point of view:

"FAVORITISM! CCP is giving out free SP to random players! SCANDAL! T20 all over again! This player now has a MAJOR advantage! OH THE HORROR! Biomassragequitunsubcan'thavemystuffgoodbye!"

For the love of god stop blowing **** way out of proportion. At the very worst CCP took pity on a player who was so ******** that he let himself get podded over 50 times and gave him his SP back. Big whoop. If this is what constitutes a scandal these days we're in deep sh*t.

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Agent Kailethre
Tengoo Uninstallation Service
#151 - 2013-11-08 23:25:26 UTC
TigerXtrm wrote:
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
TigerXtrm wrote:
Can we PLEASE go a few weeks without some self proclaimed CCP scandal? Thanks...


Self proclaimed?

How about fully documented?



Self proclaimed.

From CCP's point of view:

"Wow, this guy got scammed good. What an idiot. Let's just give the moron his SP back as a one time favor, no harm done."

From the entitled forum trolls' point of view:

"FAVORITISM! CCP is giving out free SP to random players! SCANDAL! T20 all over again! This player now has a MAJOR advantage! OH THE HORROR! Biomassragequitunsubcan'thavemystuffgoodbye!"

For the love of god stop blowing **** way out of proportion. At the very worst CCP took pity on a player who was so ******** that he let himself get podded over 50 times and gave him his SP back. Big whoop. If this is what constitutes a scandal these days we're in deep sh*t.



Wow, this idiot just got scammed and lost a bunch of SP. Let's just interfere in our player driven game where we actively encourage this kind of activity.

It was his fault and it should be his responsibility to retrain or cease playing. CCP should not be interfering.

i think i am pretty kawaii =333
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#152 - 2013-11-08 23:25:27 UTC  |  Edited by: ElQuirko
TigerXtrm wrote:
Self proclaimed.

From CCP's point of view:

"Wow, this guy got scammed good. What an idiot. Let's just give the moron his SP back as a one time favor, no harm done."

From the entitled forum trolls' point of view:

"FAVORITISM! CCP is giving out free SP to random players! SCANDAL! T20 all over again! This player now has a MAJOR advantage! OH THE HORROR! Biomassragequitunsubcan'thavemystuffgoodbye!"

For the love of god stop blowing **** way out of proportion. At the very worst CCP took pity on a player who was so ******** that he let himself get podded over 50 times and gave him his SP back. Big whoop. If this is what constitutes a scandal these days we're in deep sh*t.



Short response: CCP used to believe in a "cold harsh universe".

Long response: 17mil SP is a lot of PLEX in gametime. Most everyone would have to train that time to get that SP back. Should everyone who loses SP be given it back because they were too stupid to renew their clone?

EDIT: Account sharing is against the EULA. If his story is legitimate, he lost his SP through breaking the EULA. If not, he lied to CCP in an attempt to get SP off them. Either way is deplorable in the context of the nature of the game.

Dodixie > Hek
Lekgoa
Free State Project
#153 - 2013-11-08 23:26:00 UTC
Dear CCP,
I may or may not have a brother, who may or may not have had access to my account for the past year. I do not like the skills I have acquired during that time period, and I blame my brother because it's hypothetically possible that he is the one who trained those skills. I am not willing to provide any evidence to that effect, but please reimburse all 20 million SP anyway. Otherwise I might be very angry and may or may not stop playing this game forever.

Sincerely,
Lekgoa
Frying Doom
#154 - 2013-11-08 23:27:00 UTC
TigerXtrm wrote:
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
TigerXtrm wrote:
Can we PLEASE go a few weeks without some self proclaimed CCP scandal? Thanks...


Self proclaimed?

How about fully documented?



Self proclaimed.

From CCP's point of view:

"Wow, this guy got scammed good. What an idiot. Let's just give the moron his SP back as a one time favor, no harm done."

From the entitled forum trolls' point of view:

"FAVORITISM! CCP is giving out free SP to random players! SCANDAL! T20 all over again! This player now has a MAJOR advantage! OH THE HORROR! Biomassragequitunsubcan'thavemystuffgoodbye!"

For the love of god stop blowing **** way out of proportion. At the very worst CCP took pity on a player who was so ******** that he let himself get podded over 50 times and gave him his SP back. Big whoop. If this is what constitutes a scandal these days we're in deep sh*t.


Isn't that roughly what you said about the whole Somer thing?

Shame you were not around for the T20 scandal, I am sure you could have told people that it was fine, that there was nothing to worry about and that they should just pretend it never happened.Lol

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
PotatoOverdose
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#155 - 2013-11-08 23:27:45 UTC  |  Edited by: PotatoOverdose
Agent Kailethre wrote:

If we don't show up and yell at CCP that they're doing something wrong, then how will they ever know they've done wrong? We need to let them know, or let the game slowly begin to wither and die.

Alright, lets pretend your rearing a child.
Do you yell at them for every little trivial mistake they make? No, you quietly correct them and only yell at them for the big mistakes, because those lessons really matter and need to stick. If you yell at them for every little thing, each day, every day they become accustomed to your yelling. It becomes background noise, they ignore it.

We just had massive fcking forum shtstorms regarding gold magnates, massive favoritism, and RMT on the eve of the release of Rubicon. Also some EULA stuff too. That stuff was kinda important.

This stuff? Peanuts. So some fool that got scammed (or otherwise convinced to give over his API to erotica) got some SP. So what? Oh noes, he'll have a better refine rate or t2 minning crystals or whatever.

Small time, barely affecting one player, in a game with problems that affect thousands. This triviality isn't worth it.
Kate stark
#156 - 2013-11-08 23:31:54 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Agent Kailethre wrote:

If we don't show up and yell at CCP that they're doing something wrong, then how will they ever know they've done wrong? We need to let them know, or let the game slowly begin to wither and die.

Alright, lets pretend your rearing a child.
Do you yell at them for every little trivial mistake they make? No, you quietly correct them and only yell at them for the big mistakes, because those lessons really matter and need to stick. If you yell at them for every little thing, each day, every day they become accustomed to your yelling. It becomes background noise, they ignore it.

We just had massive fcking forum shtstorms regarding gold magnates, massive favoritism, and RMT on the eve of the release of Rubicon. Also some EULA stuff too. That stuff was kinda important.

This stuff? Peanuts. So some fool that got scammed (or otherwise convinced to give over his API to erotica) got some SP. So what? Oh noes, he'll have a better refine rate or t2 minning crystals or whatever.

Small time, barely affecting one player, in a game with problems that affect thousands. This triviality isn't worth it.


you're right, that stuff was important.
it's a shame CCP decided to not give a ****, provide 0 worthwhile response, and have ignored the issue for the last 3 weeks.

maybe if we point out they are systematically and repeatedly ******* up, they might realise we have legitimate concerns.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#157 - 2013-11-08 23:32:06 UTC
TigerXtrm wrote:
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
TigerXtrm wrote:
Can we PLEASE go a few weeks without some self proclaimed CCP scandal? Thanks...


Self proclaimed?

How about fully documented?



Self proclaimed.

From CCP's point of view:

"Wow, this guy got scammed good. What an idiot. Let's just give the moron his SP back as a one time favor, no harm done."

From the entitled forum trolls' point of view:

"FAVORITISM! CCP is giving out free SP to random players! SCANDAL! T20 all over again! This player now has a MAJOR advantage! OH THE HORROR! Biomassragequitunsubcan'thavemystuffgoodbye!"

For the love of god stop blowing **** way out of proportion. At the very worst CCP took pity on a player who was so ******** that he let himself get podded over 50 times and gave him his SP back. Big whoop. If this is what constitutes a scandal these days we're in deep sh*t.



81 pods. If you are going to sperg all over the forums, at least get facts right.

Thanks.

Roll

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
Zions Child
Higashikata Industries
#158 - 2013-11-08 23:33:14 UTC
In this thread: everything delivers. Darius Johnson delivers like Jimmy Johns.

10/10, would read again.
Winchester Steele
#159 - 2013-11-08 23:35:48 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Dream Kim wrote:
Explain where any harassment took place.

I'll wait. :)


You making me reply to this thread is harassment enough. Talk is cheap though.

Bleak Lands. Kourmonen. I'm based there. If you 'content creators' would like to further assist 'content creashuns' and silence a horrible pro-bot aspirant loser, please. Come hither.

And before you rebut with "why don't you come after us, silly carebear coward," CONCORD said I'm not allowed to.

But hey plenty of content to create down here! Come on down!



You're such a ******* try-hard. I utterly despise every single word you have ever posted.

Your killboard is utter **** by the way, so I am really not sure what's up with the Pixel Hardman routine (as is mine, but at least I'm not an epeen waving dbag.)

There are pilots in the New Order who would chew you up and spit you out, not that any of them could be bothered trying to chase down an irrelevant failure such as yourself.

Proveldtariat? How's that working out for you?

Maybe you are just angry that James 315 made you his *****?

Whatever the answer, I only have one more thing to say to you.








Get out. Cool

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Agent Kailethre
Tengoo Uninstallation Service
#160 - 2013-11-08 23:36:25 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Agent Kailethre wrote:

If we don't show up and yell at CCP that they're doing something wrong, then how will they ever know they've done wrong? We need to let them know, or let the game slowly begin to wither and die.

Alright, lets pretend your rearing a child.
Do you yell at them for every little trivial mistake they make? No, you quietly correct them and only yell at them for the big mistakes, because those lessons really matter and need to stick. If you yell at them for every little thing, each day, every day they become accustomed to your yelling. It becomes background noise, they ignore it.

We just had massive fcking forum shtstorms regarding gold magnates, massive favoritism, and RMT on the eve of the release of Rubicon. Also some EULA stuff too. That stuff was kinda important.

This stuff? Peanuts. So some fool that got scammed (or otherwise convinced to give over his API to erotica) got some SP. So what? Oh noes, he'll have a better refine rate or t2 minning crystals or whatever.

Small time, barely affecting one player, in a game with problems that affect thousands. This triviality isn't worth it.



It is worth it, because this has the potential to become the slippery slope that ruins the player driven universe, and one of the primary pulls of EVE.

While, yes, there are more important and bigger and more publicised problems happening, this does not mean we can just ignore all the small ones that might slip through the cracks.

We need to find the problems, the root of it, and stamp it out as fast as possible.

i think i am pretty kawaii =333