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Nice Job CCP. Now Can We All Get 17m Free Skillpoints Also?

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Frying Doom
#101 - 2013-11-08 22:49:36 UTC
Agent Kailethre wrote:
"Hee hee they aren't in my super sekrit goons club, they're all dirty pubbies!"
So tell me, where did you get your sense of entitlement from? You're in Goonswarm, good for you. Point out to me why your opinion is suddenly the top notch in this thread.

Actually I thought his post showed why Goons should NOT have a sense of Entitlement.

Hell they apparently let anyone in.Lol

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Darius JOHNSON
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#102 - 2013-11-08 22:49:53 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Darius JOHNSON wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Darius JOHNSON wrote:


Given that there's very little difference when questioning one's sense of entitlement I guess I'll just go ahead and lean back.

That would probably be good.

Seeing as you seem to be the one suffering from a huge sense of self entitlement.

Nor the ability to understand the English language.Lol


You should probably look that word up as well. Calling your "CSM Candidate" or whatever the OP out for acting entitled doesn't confer any entitlement on me. I'm presuming this is what passes for some pubbie attempt at being macchiavellian but for the record you look pretty dumb.

Once again insults because you believe you are better than me.

You feel entitled to insult others.


FAIL!!!


I am better than you. You can stop implying that I've said it and just quote this directly next time so it's at least factual.
Darius JOHNSON
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#103 - 2013-11-08 22:51:13 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
Darius JOHNSON wrote:
I don't understand what it is with you people and reading comprehension but I never suggested that you weren't entitled to quality customer service. I understand it's difficult to handle someone suggesting that you are less important than you've convinced yourself that you are but it will be more helpful to the conversation if you'd at least pretend to respond to what I was asking instead of offering something unrelated as an excuse for your boorish behavior.

I also never said you shouldn't be mad. Nor did I suggest the person in question should have gotten this SP back. I will repeat for the third time in caps in case maybe you folks have eye problems "WHO THE **** ARE YOU THAT CCP SHOULD CONSULT YOU ON THE PRIVATE COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN THEM AND ANOTHER CUSTOMER BEFORE TAKING ACTION?"

The response you posted to the second quote doesn't even make sense. Just post it in your native language next time and let me google translate it.

These communications aren't exactly "private" if we have our hands on 'em.

Who am I? I'll put it in capitals for you since you obviously seem to be hard of thinking:

I. AM. A. PAYING. CUSTOMER. DO. YOU. SPEAK-A. MY. LANGUAGE? ENTITLEMENT. TO. THESE. COMMUNICATIONS. COMES. THROUGH. THE. SCRUTINY. PROVIDED. BY. THIS. PARTICULAR. "WHISTLEBLOWING". -. CCP. ARE. NOT. DOING. PART. OF. WHAT. THEY. ARE. PAID. FOR. WHICH. IS. TO. RUN. THE. GAME. PROPERLY.

Mais si vous voulez, je peux parler en Francais? C'est pas d'une probleme, meme si je n'ai pas les accents pour des caracteres dans mon clavier. Je ne suis pas forte aussi avec le masculin ou feminin. Maintenant, je vais repeter moi-meme:

"VOUS ETEZ IDIOT. VOUS N'ETES PAS 'FLOCON DE NEIGE SPECIALE'. NOUS SOMMES LES PERSONNES DE QUI LES EMPLOIÉS DE CCP GAGNER LEUR ARGENT. POURQUOI NOUS N'AVONS PAS LE DROIT D'ENTENDRE CE QUI PASSÉ?"

Darius JOHNSON wrote:
I understand it's difficult to handle someone suggesting that you are less important than you've convinced yourself that you are.

And oh please, in the light of your posting, this is just cute.


Being a paying customer entitles you to nothing more than either continuing to pay or ceasing to pay. It does not entitle you to the private communications between the business and another customer.
PotatoOverdose
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#104 - 2013-11-08 22:51:20 UTC  |  Edited by: PotatoOverdose
So, two things:

1) In my opinion CCP shouldn't be tossing around 17mil sp when someone screws up/breaks the rules/whatever. But that's just like, my opinion, man.

2) If you honestly thing that some group (e.g. CCP) needs to ask your (i.e. some random guy) permission before it talks to someone else (e.g. some other random guy), you need to get your head checked. That's not how the world works.

Same holds true if CCP or any other corporation wants to give out stuff to random people. We can criticize them for it, but they are in no way obligated to consult anyone before doing said thing. If Mr. Moneybags is driving down the street and decides to give some hobo on the street $1 million, he is in no way obligated to consult you (some random dude) first.

So..... /thread?
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#105 - 2013-11-08 22:51:21 UTC
Darius JOHNSON wrote:
I am better than you. You can stop implying that I've said it and just quote this directly next time so it's at least factual.


Darius JOHNSON wrote:
I understand it's difficult to handle someone suggesting that you are less important than you've convinced yourself that you are.


Practice what you preach, bud.

Dodixie > Hek
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#106 - 2013-11-08 22:51:33 UTC
I have a compromise solutionBig smile

PLEX-For-Petition

For the cost of a PLEX your petition will be approved.

Things are only impossible until they are not.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#107 - 2013-11-08 22:53:18 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:

These communications aren't exactly "private" if we have our hands on 'em.


-If you have them, you haven't posted them.
-To my knowledge, communications between players and GMs are not available through API, therefore even if everything claimed in this thread is true, you still could not have them.
-It hasn't even yet been proven that this guy lost SP in the first place or was reimbursed SP

"**CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"**

Never forget.
Frying Doom
#108 - 2013-11-08 22:53:36 UTC
Kate stark wrote:
Brusanan wrote:
Stop derailing the thread by focusing on what was obviously a troll instead of the dangerous precedent that CCP could be setting here.


you say that like CCP care about setting dangerous and dumb precedents.
see the sticky that has been abandoned for nearly a month.

Once again we are back to the same thing.

CCP ignoring the EULA and the CSM and Internal affairs doing god knows what.

Now I am not saying this should have even passed by the CSM but surely somewhere CCP has a sticky note saying

"Do not allow people to breach the EULA"

It probably fell on the floor.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#109 - 2013-11-08 22:54:16 UTC  |  Edited by: ElQuirko
Darius JOHNSON wrote:
Being a paying customer entitles you to nothing more than either continuing to pay or ceasing to pay. It does not entitle you to the private communications between the business and another customer.

Hence, we have not received them. Do we need them? We know what happened.

Batelle wrote:
-If you have them, you haven't posted them.
-To my knowledge, communications between players and GMs are not available through API, therefore even if everything claimed in this thread is true, you still could not have them.
-It hasn't even yet been proven that this guy lost SP in the first place or was reimbursed SP

Apologies, I ran on an assumption that we had communications there. However, there is proof in the API logs that Erotica has.

Dodixie > Hek
Nathalie LaPorte
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#110 - 2013-11-08 22:55:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Nathalie LaPorte
Darius JOHNSON wrote:


Being a paying customer entitles you to nothing more than either continuing to pay or ceasing to pay. It does not entitle you to the private communications between the business and another customer.


I thought it was pretty clear that Ero was asking for CCP to talk to Ero about the case before refunding the SP; and that Ero was not asking for copies of private communications between the business and another customer.

I'm not sure why I was able to understand this and you weren't, except of course for the possibility that I'm better than you.

That said, that's all a side point; this is really about you insulting a bunch of people hypocritically and being called on it. Whatever Ero did or didn't do doesn't excuse your behavior; two wrongs don't make a right.


Annnd that's all a side point to the real issue here, which is CCP unfairly applying rules in reverse, rewarding people for breaking the EULA.

so, for everyone keeping score, that's two separate methods DJ has used to divert attention away from this developing scandal, white-knighting as hard as he can.
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#111 - 2013-11-08 22:56:33 UTC
DJ, how can you seriously be defending these actions and the idiot who caused them to happen?

This is clear cut.

There are rules that are supposed to be equal for everyone.

As YOU, being a former CCP employee, are fully aware of.

So, c'mon, huh.

Roll

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#112 - 2013-11-08 22:59:07 UTC
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
There are rules that are supposed to be equal for everyone.


The rules you assume should be equal for everyone.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.
Darius JOHNSON
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#113 - 2013-11-08 23:00:12 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
Dear Darius, before posting in GD, perhaps you should run your ideas by your corpmates first. I look forward to representing you in the next CSM.

In regards to my petition, I will not divulge the details or screen shot it. I'll just say that I gave more than enough information to have the petitions linked and provide ample evidence for any questions they may have. Instead, mine was closed and he was awarded the SP. One would think that someone making a decision like this should have some internal checks and balanes, or at least think to himself as he's pressing the button, that this is going to be a **** storm. What happens in the petition department and is there no oversight?


I have no idea what world you come from that I'd need to talk to my corpmates before making a post but I genuinely feel sorry for whatever happened in your life that would make you believe that is normal or rational behavior.

Your petition was closed because this isn't about you. It never was and it never will be. If you spent time studying CCP's policies, which you should probably know a thing or two about before questioning them, you'll find that they're forbidden from discussing another customer's petition with you.

The basis of your complaint is completely valid insofar as the facts that are available to you. Not questioning that.

There's not much more in this world I could give less of a **** about than the CSM so best of luck I guess.
PotatoOverdose
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#114 - 2013-11-08 23:00:39 UTC
Honestly, y'all need to chill.

So some nub that Erotica managed to scam (or however he managed to get the API) got some SP. What's this guy gonna do, fit t2 mining lasers to his hulk? The SP is non-transferable.

Going over every tiny interaction CCP has with its player base will accomplish nothing, it will only deaden the communication channels that exist between the player base and the devs.
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#115 - 2013-11-08 23:01:38 UTC
Darius JOHNSON wrote:
There's not much more in this world I could give less of a **** about than the CSM so best of luck I guess.


Ladies and gents, the words of an ex CCP employee.

Dodixie > Hek
masternerdguy
Doomheim
#116 - 2013-11-08 23:01:51 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Honestly, y'all need to chill.

So some nub that Erotica managed to scam (or however he managed to get the API) got some SP. What's this guy gonna do, fit t2 mining lasers to his hulk? The SP is non-transferable.

Going over every tiny interaction CCP has with its player base will accomplish nothing, it will only deaden the communication channels that exist between the player base and the devs.


Facts are CCP only treats carebears this nicely.

Things are only impossible until they are not.
Agent Kailethre
Tengoo Uninstallation Service
#117 - 2013-11-08 23:02:22 UTC
dexington wrote:
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
There are rules that are supposed to be equal for everyone.


The rules you assume should be equal for everyone.


The moment the rules cease applying to everyone equally is the moment this game dies. It might take a while for the corpse to stop flailing, but it will stop eventually.

i think i am pretty kawaii =333
Kate stark
#118 - 2013-11-08 23:02:49 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Honestly, y'all need to chill.

So some nub that Erotica managed to scam (or however he managed to get the API) got some SP. What's this guy gonna do, fit t2 mining lasers to his hulk? The SP is non-transferable.

Going over every tiny interaction CCP has with its player base will accomplish nothing, it will only deaden the communication channels that exist between the player base and the devs.


think you've pretty much missed the point.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
Darius JOHNSON
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#119 - 2013-11-08 23:03:05 UTC
Nathalie LaPorte wrote:
Darius JOHNSON wrote:


Being a paying customer entitles you to nothing more than either continuing to pay or ceasing to pay. It does not entitle you to the private communications between the business and another customer.


I thought it was pretty clear that Ero was asking for CCP to talk to Ero about the case before refunding the SP; and that Ero was not asking for copies of private communications between the business and another customer.

I'm not sure why I was able to understand this and you weren't, except of course for the possibility that I'm better than you.

That said, that's all a side point; this is really about you insulting a bunch of people hypocritically and being called on it. Whatever Ero did or didn't do doesn't excuse your behavior; two wrongs don't make a right.


If you don't know CCP's policies well enough to know that they can't discuss this with you then perhaps you should spend more time understanding what you're mad about before you get mad about it and act the fool. The fact that as best as I can tell you're all lowest denominator eve bottom feeders only makes your apparent sense of entitlement more interesting.
Darius JOHNSON
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#120 - 2013-11-08 23:04:07 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
Darius JOHNSON wrote:
There's not much more in this world I could give less of a **** about than the CSM so best of luck I guess.


Ladies and gents, the words of an ex CCP employee.


At least you managed to squeeze that sentence out without any glaring errors. Congrats bro you're learning!