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Nice Job CCP. Now Can We All Get 17m Free Skillpoints Also?

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Agent Kailethre
Tengoo Uninstallation Service
#201 - 2013-11-09 00:47:19 UTC
Barkaial Starfinder wrote:
How is this troll so successful? Shocked


People aren't all that bright.

i think i am pretty kawaii =333
Frying Doom
#202 - 2013-11-09 00:47:42 UTC
Boom Boom Longtime wrote:
Is the train out of control ?

Now no body panic.

This train is in complete control and will be stopping soon.

Just because we went off a cliff, does not imply a loss of control, we are going straight down and will stop as soon as we hit the bottom.Lol

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#203 - 2013-11-09 00:49:52 UTC
I like how CCP takes pains to remind me every week that "the sandbox" is a lie. It will make it so much easier to leave when I find some other game that claims to be a "sandbox."

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."
Alt Two
Caldari Capital Construction Inc.
#204 - 2013-11-09 00:51:01 UTC
TigerXtrm wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:

It is not about favoritism it is about money. In a case like this they need to way up exactly the same questions and in this case was making 1 person happy likely to give them more money compared to the loss they may suffer because of another case of them ignoring the EULA?


That's exactly what I was saying (apparently we agree after all). And apparently someone at CCP weighed the options and felt that his would be the best result. And he's probably right. Because out of all the people who have been screaming 'IMMA UNSUB' for the past few weeks, how many do you think actually will? 80% of GD is pure trolling anyway and the other 20% will have forgotten this ever happened by the time their sub expires.

I did actually, so at least 1 person. But then CCP stopped SomeRMT so I came back.
Not sure if this is unsub-worthy though.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#205 - 2013-11-09 00:51:40 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
I like how CCP takes pains to remind me every week that "the sandbox" is a lie. It will make it so much easier to leave when I find some other game that claims to be a "sandbox."


I plan on trying X-Rebirth myself. Been a fan of that series since before I ever played EVE, so I owe them a shot.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#206 - 2013-11-09 00:52:21 UTC
Personally.... this is what I think (allow to make one of my infmous open letters lists)

1. Guy gambles everything on a game of chance (persistence is a factor in Ero's game)
2. Guy admits to doing something banworthy, and is disqualified from his potential reward (remember... people who break the rules fund the payouts for folks who don't)
3. Guy is mad about losing and blames his "brother" (who may or may not exist) for it all
4. A newbie GM knee-jerk reacts and shows sympathy for Guy, who is probably going to do it again
5. Public outrage ensues

This is not really CCP's fault, as a corporation. While I feel the GM did what he thought was best in the interests of CCP, it was clearly not okay. I'm not really outraged, but I'm not condoning the decision, either. This player is a clear example of folks who aren't going to stick around, anyway.
There should have been no SP reimbursement... but, let's face it. Guy is going to get banned, someday, anyhow. Or ragequit.

Erotica1.... keep doing what you're doing. Seriously. People like you add something to the game community... even if it's just pure entertainment. And that's something we need.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Radax Glenn
Church of the Black Hand
#207 - 2013-11-09 00:57:13 UTC
Not to jump on either side of the debate, but this is pretty clear cut and I can't see where you are seeing any violation by CCP.

Check out this link: Reimbursement
I would pay very close attention to paragraph four.

CCP clearly has the final say, on what they reimburse and what they don't.

We really don't know the whole of the situation as the only parties with the entire story, are CCP & the subscriber.

Wouldn't you agree that the API you are looking at, only tells part of the story?
In the grander scheme of things, why does this matter?
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#208 - 2013-11-09 00:59:44 UTC
Radax Glenn wrote:
Not to jump on either side of the debate, but this is pretty clear cut and I can't see where you are seeing any violation by CCP.

Check out this link: Reimbursement
I would pay very close attention to paragraph four.

CCP clearly has the final say, on what they reimburse and what they don't.

We really don't know the whole of the situation as the only parties with the entire story, are CCP & the subscriber.

Wouldn't you agree that the API you are looking at, only tells part of the story?
In the grander scheme of things, why does this matter?


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Zazz Razzamatazz
Bad Touches
#209 - 2013-11-09 01:00:40 UTC
Radax Glenn wrote:

I would pay very close attention to paragraph four.


I would pay closer attention to 1.3 "Reimbursement will only be granted if a loss is attributable to a bug or server error. "


Did the player in question loose his skillpoints due to a "bug or server error"?
Alt Two
Caldari Capital Construction Inc.
#210 - 2013-11-09 01:01:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Alt Two
Radax Glenn wrote:
In the grander scheme of things, why does this matter?

I probably wouldn't have cared if this was an isolated event. It's the fact that CCP does strange and/or shady things over and over and over again that bugs people.
Richard Ramlrez
Doomheim
#211 - 2013-11-09 01:05:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Richard Ramlrez
They recovered his SP but didn't recover his brain.


I'm sure this kind of guy will fall again to the hands of another predator. Don't worry about it.


btw


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-d9KjWYL9CV0/Un09wuPopnI/AAAAAAAAUss/VgHy6p_jAMw/s1600/jack+lennox+art.jpg


I laughed so hard at this, should be a poster. Guess he got podded so many times he couldn't recover his right eyeball.
Frying Doom
#212 - 2013-11-09 01:06:20 UTC
Zazz Razzamatazz wrote:
Radax Glenn wrote:

I would pay very close attention to paragraph four.


I would pay closer attention to 1.3 "Reimbursement will only be granted if a loss is attributable to a bug or server error. "


Did the player in question loose his skillpoints due to a "bug or server error"?

or

Section 9.
5. If someone gained access to your account as a result of your use of a third party program or other violation of our EULA/TOS, all requests for reimbursement will be null and void.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
Heroes and Villains.
#213 - 2013-11-09 01:07:51 UTC
Barkaial Starfinder wrote:
How is this troll so successful? Shocked

Sad thing is it's no troll.

Maybe CCP diverted more resources from Eve to Dust and the Vampire game and it was the new intern?

Speculation, of course.

Absent proper explanation, alot of decisions from the powers that be these days seem to boggle.

Concord Approved Trader
Impala59
Amazing Super Slackers
#214 - 2013-11-09 01:09:57 UTC
The only solution is 17m sps to every account. I am waiting with baited breath.
Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#215 - 2013-11-09 01:10:09 UTC
If someone stole my account, and killed my character over and over and I lost years worth of training, I'd hope CCP would fix it. Its no different than if someone steals an entire alliances assets from hacking an account, or disbanding an alliance completely.

What if someone from CCP gave the login information to the ceo of goonswarm to some "friends" to have them disband the alliance, should CCP allow that to happen.

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Impala59
Amazing Super Slackers
#216 - 2013-11-09 01:14:08 UTC
Knights Armament wrote:
If someone stole my account, and killed my character over and over and I lost years worth of training, I'd hope CCP would fix it. Its no different than if someone steals an entire alliances assets from hacking an account, or disbanding an alliance completely.

What if someone from CCP gave the login information to the ceo of goonswarm to some "friends" to have them disband the alliance, should CCP allow that to happen.


Grrr Goons?
Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
Heroes and Villains.
#217 - 2013-11-09 01:15:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Boom Boom Longtime
Cut thought the dramatica of this thread and I have to say the OP has a point.

Evidence shows CCP "gifted" a player back 17m SP he lost under "permissable" mechanics.

For the lack of looking like they favour some players over others, surely clarification as to the rationalle behind the decision might be expected ?

Concord Approved Trader
Anomaly One
Doomheim
#218 - 2013-11-09 01:15:26 UTC
Impala59 wrote:
The only solution is 17m sps to every account. I am waiting with baited breath.


keep waiting
Alt Two
Caldari Capital Construction Inc.
#219 - 2013-11-09 01:17:32 UTC
Knights Armament wrote:
If someone stole my account, and killed my character over and over and I lost years worth of training, I'd hope CCP would fix it. Its no different than if someone steals an entire alliances assets from hacking an account, or disbanding an alliance completely.

What if someone from CCP gave the login information to the ceo of goonswarm to some "friends" to have them disband the alliance, should CCP allow that to happen.

There's a difference between having your account stolen and willingly giving someone your login details, and then even admitting to doing so.
Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#220 - 2013-11-09 01:19:23 UTC
Alt Two wrote:
Knights Armament wrote:
If someone stole my account, and killed my character over and over and I lost years worth of training, I'd hope CCP would fix it. Its no different than if someone steals an entire alliances assets from hacking an account, or disbanding an alliance completely.

What if someone from CCP gave the login information to the ceo of goonswarm to some "friends" to have them disband the alliance, should CCP allow that to happen.

There's a difference between having your account stolen and willingly giving someone your login details, and then even admitting to doing so.



So if my ex-girlfriend who knows my login information for eve decides to kill my character 100 times because we broke up thats ok, because I willingly gave her the password I use for facebook.

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