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Calling All Miners And Indy Toons

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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#161 - 2013-11-09 10:03:09 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Hitman88 wrote:
Your still on the bonus round, I have gotten past that and moved on with another Orca on the fire. And you teach me something now that my friend is funny. Lets put it this way, in the seventh grade i was doing college level work. I didn't think on a game that punctuation would make a difference to some but seeing how it does will make an attempt to pay closer attention.


It's always "look at me!!" with you, isn't it.

For the record, I don't believe you that you were doing "college-level work" in the seventh grade, you've given me no reason to believe you, and frankly, I don't have to. However, if you want to go down that route....

I had an IQ of 147 when I was 11. It's gone down since then, to 127, which is a little sad, but in that time I've also learned that IQ isn't the last-word on intelligence, especially given how people like to focus their learning on specific subjects instead of broadening it too much. Given I was in the top 5% of Australian high school graduates, and the top 1% of the ICAS in 1999, a 127 right now isn't terrible. It is, in fact, considered above average.

Considering you can't even differentiate between 'your' and 'you're' that already makes me your intellectual superior by a considerable margin. So if you were doing "college-level" work (what does that even mean?) in seventh grade, then I was inventing Neutronium in first.

I would rather see someone who had their literary discourse criticised in such a way not get on the defensive, admit their fault, and attempt to rectify it. It would be more respectful then some half-arsed attempt to save face with a barely legible claim about intellectual superiority. And the fact that you somehow think your superior intellect excuses you from literacy ANYWHERE makes it even worse, because I guarantee you there isn't one single tertiary graduate with the intellectual level you claim to have that doesn't understand the importance of punctuation, even when abbreviating words in sentences for newspaper headlines or Twitter and the like.
You, sir, have no gained me as a fan.
Kate stark
#162 - 2013-11-09 10:06:58 UTC
Hitman88 wrote:
LMAO really. For someone to claim to be so superior it seems as though you cant tell a game from RL. Talk about being defensive, I think I might have hit a nerve lol. And you said it your self ppl with a high IQ mainly focus on one thing, mine was history not on punctuation and the proper structure of a sentence. Honestly i can care less about that. If you read my post earlier i did admit to having bad punctuation and even said i would make a better attempt to correct it. Talk about over looking things. Paying attention must not have been your strong point seeing how you over looked my admission to my fault.


if you want to be taken seriously, get the basics right.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#163 - 2013-11-09 10:09:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Remiel Pollard
Hitman88 wrote:
LMAO really. For someone to claim to be so superior it seems as though you cant tell a game from RL.


I can tell the difference between a game and real life quite fine. However, clear and precise prose and communication in general is not medium-reliant. Like I said earlier, you have no place expecting people to understand what you're even on about if you can't say it in such a manner that makes it clear and concise.

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...mine was history not on punctuation and the proper structure of a sentence.


Mine was science. Irrelevant. If you're going to write a paper, be it science or history, and expect to get it published or even considered for peer review, you're going to need punctuation and proper sentence structure. In fact, it doesn't matter what degree you go into at university, your first year always includes a unit on essay writing that covers the importance of literacy (in Australia, anyway). Usually, this unit is just a rehash of stuff you should have already learned in 10th-12th grades though.

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Paying attention must not have been your strong point seeing how you over looked my admission to my fault.


I can pay attention just fine. First you have to give me something to pay attention to, but I wonder if you've noticed your own self-contradiction in admitting you have poor punctuation while claiming to have done college-level work in seventh grade. Because no self-respecting college or tertiary institution of any kind would want to burden you with such complex learning without first being sure you could handle, at least, basic language skills.

For the record, I never claim to be superior until you started trying to big-note yourself as something you simply are not. You tried to discard my criticism of your lack of punctuation by claiming to be intellectually superior enough that it doesn't matter to you. That is terrible logic, for one, and for another, doesn't do much to prove you're intellectually honest enough to admit your faults. In which case, how can we be expected to take anything you say seriously?

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Hitman88
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#164 - 2013-11-09 10:19:45 UTC
This has gotten off track of what this post was originally about, miners fighting back against the permits. If you wont to go a battle of wits im more then willing to go there on another day. Lets get back to the focus point thats at hand and its not a punctuation lesson.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#165 - 2013-11-09 10:31:49 UTC
Hitman88 wrote:
This has gotten off track of what this post was originally about, miners fighting back against the permits. If you wont to go a battle of wits im more then willing to go there on another day. Lets get back to the focus point thats at hand and its not a punctuation lesson.


It's hard to understand what the point is when it's delivered with no punctuation...

That being said, your concerns have already been addressed. As so many miners like to point out, EVE is a sandbox in which you're allowed to do whatever you like with the tools you have. This, of course, needs to be clarified: if you cannot hold on to the tools you have, then your sandbox options become more limited. You also have to weigh up the risk vs the reward, and you try to utilise whatever expertise, tools and manpower you have to mitigate any risk taken as much as possible while trying to maximise that reward. That is EVE, in a nutshell, regardless of your activity, be it mining, missioning, faction warfare, and even ganking and miner bumping.

That means, if you encounter direct competition from other players, then you need to figure out how to maximise their risk and reduce their reward as much as possible in order to make you less worth competing with. Raising market prices won't do that, because the moment you raise ore and min prices, everything else those ore and mins produce goes up in price as well, which levels the field again, because my Catalyst might become (rough figure for posterity's sake) 10% more expensive, but so will your barge. You do the math: 10% of 10 mil (average Gankalyst) = 1 mil more expensive, 10% of 40 mil (average Retriever) = 4 mil more expensive. That does nothing to mitigate your risk or maximise your competitions'.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
#166 - 2013-11-09 10:41:14 UTC
Hitman88 wrote:
Now i have played eve for about three years so im not a newbie.


Based on the rest of your post I would have to disagree.

Just stop being a sheep and the silly permit people stop being a problem.

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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#167 - 2013-11-09 10:41:49 UTC
Hitman88 wrote:
im not here to pick a fight with goon cuz even i know thats not very smart. But what im trying to get across is ppl should leave the miners alone and stop trying to force these permits

Why?

Remove standings and insurance.

Hypercake Mix
#168 - 2013-11-09 10:47:25 UTC
Hitman88 wrote:
Now i have played eve for about three years so im not a newbie...

Just die (quit being a miner), since you clearly have not adapted properly.
Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#169 - 2013-11-09 10:49:35 UTC
You should all form a new-new order, and demand the new order people pay you for the privilege of flying in your space. You just need to then constantly go on and on about how the new-new order owns all of highsec, about how anyone in the new order that doesn't purchase your licence is breaking the rules if they attempt to bump, gank or otherwise attempt to get isk from players. All you need then are a few self-important ego-maniacs at the top of your structure to constantly bang on about how it's your right, and you're bringing order and stability and blah blah blah, and you've got yourself a nice little scam just like the new order.

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.  

Alduin666 Shikkoken
Doomheim
#170 - 2013-11-09 10:51:49 UTC
GUYS!!!!!! I FOUND A LOOPHOLE IN THE CODE!!!!

If you actually buy a permit, you won't get ganked . . . problem solved!

Honor is a fools prize. [I]Glory is of no use to the dead.[/I]

Be a man! Post with your main! ~Vas'Avi Community Manager

Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#171 - 2013-11-09 10:54:57 UTC
At this point I don't believe that will solve his problems.. well, not all of them at least. Pretty sure his need for a permit has been bumped to the back burner as far as priorities go.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#172 - 2013-11-09 11:00:54 UTC
Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:
GUYS!!!!!! I FOUND A LOOPHOLE IN THE CODE!!!!

If you actually buy a permit, you won't get ganked . . . problem solved!


Good Lord! He's....

(•_•)

( •_•)>⌐■-■

(⌐■_■)

cracked The Code.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#173 - 2013-11-09 11:06:04 UTC
Hitman88 wrote:
Now i have played eve for about three years so im not a newbie. I have noticed that here recently WE MINERS are now being harassed by ppl who think we need a permit to mine. These ppl have forgot that if it was not for us MINERS eve wouldnt be able to stand. We mine, we build, and we put things on market for others to buy in which we make a pretty good profit off of and now we are being asked to pay for a permit. Yes i know that they say that its only 10M per character but if we give into this my friends and fellow miners we are opening up for a lot more to start happening. Look at history the governments that have caused wars within their own countries have taken little by little from their own ppl until finally their ppl had enough and its the same case here in eve if we allow them to get away for this then later on down the road they are going to keep asking for more and more and til there is nothing left to give.

So what i am asking is until these ppl that think they need to govern use pull back and stop this non-sense we raise the prices is eve's market and hold them high. If we do this it will open eve back up to free mining like it should be.

thank you for your participation


Oh look it's call for hi-sec unity #23,083

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#174 - 2013-11-09 11:10:46 UTC
Malcanis wrote:

Oh look it's call for hi-sec unity #23,083

The OP will disappear into the obscurity from whence he came, and paint a large target on everything he flies if he hasn't already, just like the 23,082 people who've attempted to do it before him.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#175 - 2013-11-09 11:14:41 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Malcanis wrote:

Oh look it's call for hi-sec unity #23,083

The OP will disappear into the obscurity from whence he came, and paint a large target on everything he flies if he hasn't already, just like the 23,082 people who've attempted to do it before him.


I sum it up thusly.

Many have tried, all have died.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Alduin666 Shikkoken
Doomheim
#176 - 2013-11-09 11:17:15 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Hitman88 wrote:
Now i have played eve for about three years so im not a newbie. I have noticed that here recently WE MINERS are now being harassed by ppl who think we need a permit to mine. These ppl have forgot that if it was not for us MINERS eve wouldnt be able to stand. We mine, we build, and we put things on market for others to buy in which we make a pretty good profit off of and now we are being asked to pay for a permit. Yes i know that they say that its only 10M per character but if we give into this my friends and fellow miners we are opening up for a lot more to start happening. Look at history the governments that have caused wars within their own countries have taken little by little from their own ppl until finally their ppl had enough and its the same case here in eve if we allow them to get away for this then later on down the road they are going to keep asking for more and more and til there is nothing left to give.

So what i am asking is until these ppl that think they need to govern use pull back and stop this non-sense we raise the prices is eve's market and hold them high. If we do this it will open eve back up to free mining like it should be.

thank you for your participation


Oh look it's call for hi-sec unity #23,083


Remember the last time high sec got united? CCP led them into a CFC death trap.

Honor is a fools prize. [I]Glory is of no use to the dead.[/I]

Be a man! Post with your main! ~Vas'Avi Community Manager

Captain Stupid
State War Academy
Caldari State
#177 - 2013-11-09 11:25:58 UTC
Donbe Scurred wrote:
Have you heard of Cannibal Kane?
If you haven't I have a strong feeling you will soon.....



Canibal Kane is one scary dude. I was in a corp that tried to fight him and we all died a horrible death. Nice fella though, he gives as good as he gets but has honour.
Uncle Traveling Matt
Sapphire Dragon Industries
#178 - 2013-11-09 11:34:34 UTC
Little late to this thread, but...

I've been mining for 6+ years and have never been "asked" to buy a mining permit....anywhere.

learn2mine. (or more precisely -- learn WHERE to mine.)

UTM
Yummy Chocolate
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#179 - 2013-11-09 11:35:18 UTC
newbie

Frostys Virpio > CCP: Continously Crying Playerbase

Felicity Love >... was thinking "moar popcorn"... but now, seeing the truly awesome contribution this thread is going to make to the Greater Glory Of EVE.... imagonnamakkadapizza....

Bloody Slave
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#180 - 2013-11-09 11:44:19 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
Hitman88 wrote:
Your still on the bonus round, I have gotten past that and moved on with another Orca on the fire. And you teach me something now that my friend is funny. Lets put it this way, in the seventh grade i was doing college level work. I didn't think on a game that punctuation would make a difference to some but seeing how it does will make an attempt to pay closer attention.


It's always "look at me!!" with you, isn't it.

For the record, I don't believe you that you were doing "college-level work" in the seventh grade, you've given me no reason to believe you, and frankly, I don't have to. However, if you want to go down that route....

I had an IQ of 147 when I was 11. It's gone down since then, to 127, which is a little sad, but in that time I've also learned that IQ isn't the last-word on intelligence, especially given how people like to focus their learning on specific subjects instead of broadening it too much. Given I was in the top 5% of Australian high school graduates, and the top 1% of the ICAS in 1999, a 127 right now isn't terrible. It is, in fact, considered above average.

Considering you can't even differentiate between 'your' and 'you're' that already makes me your intellectual superior by a considerable margin. So if you were doing "college-level" work (what does that even mean?) in seventh grade, then I was inventing Neutronium in first.

I would rather see someone who had their literary discourse criticised in such a way not get on the defensive, admit their fault, and attempt to rectify it. It would be more respectful then some half-arsed attempt to save face with a barely legible claim about intellectual superiority. And the fact that you somehow think your superior intellect excuses you from literacy ANYWHERE makes it even worse, because I guarantee you there isn't one single tertiary graduate with the intellectual level you claim to have that doesn't understand the importance of punctuation, even when abbreviating words in sentences for newspaper headlines or Twitter and the like.


This aussie is a genius!

Got my attention as well.

@OP - Just read my signature (when CCP fix our forum signature AWOL, that is...)

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