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Calling All Miners And Indy Toons

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Flay Nardieu
#241 - 2013-11-19 14:34:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Flay Nardieu
These threads are becoming way to common lately. But anyway, when I mine I do it honest, no botting only time I'm afk is to a quick trip to the facilities or snag a soda. I feel no need to pay anybody to mine in high-sec to "prove" it.

So here is some real advice (most has been posted dozens of times)

A - Don't bot or walk away letting the game play itself
B - Don't use ships unless you can properly tank them, yea it is great to fly an exhummer except when it goes pop due to poor supporting skills/fit
C - Use EWAR and Combat drones! Why would someone need to use mining drones when they have a modulated strip miner or 2 on the ship?
D - Don't be antisocial, talk with other miners in fleet or local
E - Don't pay extortionists
F - Fight back, you see a criminally flagged character or known ganker in the system switch to a combat ship and give chase they will either leave or play the station docking game.
G - Don't whine if you lose a ship it happens, it isn't the oh so impressive kill mail they get for destroying a mining or indy vessel it is the reaction they get from those whom they just popped that is their thing

Personally I think since the barges where changed to easily tank NPC belt rats a lot of people either got lazy or never learned how to do a defensive fit
Jythier Smith
BGG Wolves
#242 - 2013-11-19 14:54:32 UTC
Are we allowed to discuss fits here? If so, can you give a practical example of a good tank fit for a procurer?

The problem I'm running into is that, as a Gallente pilot, I have armor tanking skills and not shield tanking skills, and most barges are shield tanking due to the upgrades going in the low slots. Besides training shield skills, which would take a while and set me back in other pursuits, what would you suggest? Or can I tank with relatively low shield skills?
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#243 - 2013-11-19 15:04:52 UTC
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
Marlona Sky wrote:
Turns out OP is just another alt of James crying for attention.

I'm like, totally shocked. Seriously. Roll


Nah, Marlona.

I actually have a bounty of intel on the OP, and can confirm he is indeed NOT an alt of James.

Jim's alts have a writing style that carries across all of the alts. You might want to work on that, Jim. Maybe Google translate your text into Japanese and then back into English or something.
My Postman
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#244 - 2013-11-19 15:25:46 UTC
Jythier Smith wrote:
Are we allowed to discuss fits here? If so, can you give a practical example of a good tank fit for a procurer?

The problem I'm running into is that, as a Gallente pilot, I have armor tanking skills and not shield tanking skills, and most barges are shield tanking due to the upgrades going in the low slots. Besides training shield skills, which would take a while and set me back in other pursuits, what would you suggest? Or can I tank with relatively low shield skills?



To fit a Procurer correctly you have to shield fit it, for the first because of the slot layout (1/4/2), and for the second because of the shield bonus the procurer has iirc. It has a ton of EHP before shield fitting it, so even with meh shield skills it will work.

I can´t give you a fit because the last time i used a procurer is years ago, and they changed the barges and exhumers since this time, but i´m sure there are plenty available (google eve-online procurer fit gives tons of fittings). Nowadays i´m using a Mack with 20k EHP but it will require PERFECT fitting skills and a +3% cpu implant at least, so i think it´s not for you atm.

And just an advice. A procurer will easily tank a half arsed gank attempt (something like 2 destroyers), but if the gank is competent executed, you will die, no matter what barge or exhumer you are in, and no matter how good the thing is fitted for tank.

When mining always align to a station or whatever you want. When something like a tornado or bigger shows up on grid, gtfo NOW, dont waste time with activating active shield modules, dont waste time recalling your drones (if out what you should´nt do anyway), just hit warp.

When a Battleship shows up on grid gtfo, it will need some time, but when the disco lights go on (smarbomb), you´ll be toast anyway, and with a good chance your pod will explode as well, if the second smartie is fired correctly.

Hope this helps.
Desivo Delta Visseroff
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#245 - 2013-11-19 15:45:17 UTC
My Postman wrote:
Jythier Smith wrote:
Are we allowed to discuss fits here? If so, can you give a practical example of a good tank fit for a procurer?

The problem I'm running into is that, as a Gallente pilot, I have armor tanking skills and not shield tanking skills, and most barges are shield tanking due to the upgrades going in the low slots. Besides training shield skills, which would take a while and set me back in other pursuits, what would you suggest? Or can I tank with relatively low shield skills?



To fit a Procurer correctly you have to shield fit it, for the first because of the slot layout (1/4/2), and for the second because of the shield bonus the procurer has iirc. It has a ton of EHP before shield fitting it, so even with meh shield skills it will work.

I can´t give you a fit because the last time i used a procurer is years ago, and they changed the barges and exhumers since this time, but i´m sure there are plenty available (google eve-online procurer fit gives tons of fittings). Nowadays i´m using a Mack with 20k EHP but it will require PERFECT fitting skills and a +3% cpu implant at least, so i think it´s not for you atm.

And just an advice. A procurer will easily tank a half arsed gank attempt (something like 2 destroyers), but if the gank is competent executed, you will die, no matter what barge or exhumer you are in, and no matter how good the thing is fitted for tank.

When mining always align to a station or whatever you want. When something like a tornado or bigger shows up on grid, gtfo NOW, dont waste time with activating active shield modules, dont waste time recalling your drones (if out what you should´nt do anyway), just hit warp.

When a Battleship shows up on grid gtfo, it will need some time, but when the disco lights go on (smarbomb), you´ll be toast anyway, and with a good chance your pod will explode as well, if the second smartie is fired correctly.

Hope this helps.



Here I built you what I used to use back when I mined
@82kEHP

Throw on some combat/ecm drones & you're good to go. Lastly, I don't want to hear any nonsense about a MLU. You don't need one in a Procurer!

[Procurer, MineTank]

Damage Control II
Warp Core Stabilizer II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Amplifier II
Medium Shield Extender II

Strip Miner I

Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

I was hunting for sick loot, but all I could get my hands on were 50 corpses[:|]..............[:=d]
Jythier Smith
BGG Wolves
#246 - 2013-11-19 15:47:09 UTC
I appreciate any actual advice that will make me a better player, so thanks. :)
Gaylord Fappington
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#247 - 2013-11-19 16:38:23 UTC
Jythier Smith wrote:
I appreciate any actual advice that will make me a better player, so thanks. :)


That's a great attitude to have. I'll offer some advice too. Buying a mining permit and following the Code will make you a better player.
Jythier Smith
BGG Wolves
#248 - 2013-11-19 16:42:06 UTC
Gaylord Fappington wrote:
Jythier Smith wrote:
I appreciate any actual advice that will make me a better player, so thanks. :)


That's a great attitude to have. I'll offer some advice too. Buying a mining permit and following the Code will make you a better player.


I'll just follow the code and shoot anything that asks me to pay them to mine. If they want money, they can mine themselves.
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#249 - 2013-11-19 16:46:46 UTC
I wish all the douchey miners would go on strike FFS.

Quit talking about it and do it already. I'll be making a billion an hour in my Marauder.

KTHXBYE.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Jythier Smith
BGG Wolves
#250 - 2013-11-19 16:48:47 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
I wish all the douchey miners would go on strike FFS.

Quit talking about it and do it already. I'll be making a billion an hour in my Marauder.

KTHXBYE.



What would we do if we didn't mine?
Edwin McAlister
Empire Hooligans
#251 - 2013-11-19 16:55:55 UTC
I have yet to buy a permit, have yet to get ganked, I fly tank, no one mess's with me, and I don't mine in populated areas
Leonardo Diom
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#252 - 2013-11-19 17:18:12 UTC
People have to mine, ships have to be destroyed.
Permits mean very little if you tank your ship.
Desivo Delta Visseroff
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#253 - 2013-11-19 22:39:10 UTC
This thread continues with a new thread:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3897570#post3897570

I was hunting for sick loot, but all I could get my hands on were 50 corpses[:|]..............[:=d]
Protovarious
The Neocom Network
#254 - 2013-11-19 23:29:25 UTC
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