EVE General Discussion

Oh, don't get me wrong - I applaud groups such as yours that seek to improve the gaming experience of others. My observation had the caveats of outside of hi sec and restricted to play style within the game. For instance, I have often given ISK and ships to my fellow corp mates but I recognise that isn't purely altruistic.

Thinking out loud here and a new mechanic; what if a pilot under attack could issue a mayday broadcast, allowing anyone that so wishes to warp directly to them? The good guys might then be able to help whilst the crime was being commited rather than after the event. Of course, issuing such a distress call has the chance of attracting further criminals.

There've been several good suggestions and ideas so far in here from varying playstyles in the game. How you apply your time and effort will be up to you. Help newbies, shoot at people and make friends, join an anti-pirate faction, or even throw your hand in the whole CODE vs miners tempest that's been roiling.... on either side: either help the CODE destroy the evil afk botters, or volunteer your time to help guard helpless miners from the evil gankers. It's all a matter of perspective. I'm just pleased to see a thread in GD that isn't primarily griping :)

I'd say being good means you help out people when you can , don't scam , don't gank/suicide in empire , no awoxing and don't backstab .It has nothing to do with pvp in low-sec/wormholes/high-sec and the political game it involves.

But then that is a personal viewpoint as i have never done any of the above i'd view myself as a good guy , though i did smartbomb and kill a mackfleet of about 8 guys and their pods in the process in empire once but that was because they where bots and some friends of mine had trouble with them.And yes they where DEFINATLY bots as shown by the warping in and out after the suicide OP of one of their pods that got away .

Just because a majority of the player base act like jerks doesn't mean everyone will.

There is room for good guys in New Eden it just depends what you're consideration of good is and how much you want to do.
I would consider myself a "good guy" in that I don't pirate, harass or troll people. In fact my entire corporation and alliance are against that, we're a roaming PVP alliance but we look for fights for the fun and enjoyment of combat whilst our non-PVP time is spent trying to give people a stepping stone into NullSec via Providence and the NRDS stance.

If you want to be good look at taking new members and helping them out, maybe building some ships or mining some minerals to help out others. Be that person who runs around the four Empires helping people complete missions they're stuck on etc.

There is room for good in EVE you just need to find what is your good and what you're willing to do.

I believe to be good in Eve as in Rl is to do things that most if not all would judge to be a morally correct act.

Also to do things for 'good' is to do those things for the act itself not to be remembered for doing the act.

Good/evil/kind/bad is all a judgement call :)

According to my judgement it is :)

Back when I started this game in 2007 the king of the hills were BoB. The ethos of the game, when they were in the top spot, was very different. A sneering type of arrogance based on perceived eliteness. The same people, or the same kind of people, that now say things like 'play with friends' when they blob used to sneer at the blob as beneath them in their eliteness.

Back then the sheep all joined Bob, which diluted Bob to the point where they couldn't maintain their ethos of sneering superiority any longer. The losses mounted up. The idea burst. So the sheep left, or were kicked, from Bob. Now the sheep join the CFC.

Now they try to maintain the ethos of the cfc, the bad guys. But, that will change too when CFC meets the same fate as Bob. And maybe then the sheep will join the new ethos of the moral capsuleer. I don't know.

But it's up to the players, and if enough refuse to be sheep, then there's nothing stopping a 'force for Good' in Eve. When they start to win some, sheep will flock to them. Maybe in five years time we'll complain about there being no bad guys in this harsh and dystopian game.

science and industry forum is full of people answering the same questions day after day politely.
market discussions contains plenty of people helping others out.
i have had wormholers trap me for hours and then when i offered to pay a ransom honour it.
Plenty of pirates take on trainees.
Corps like Shiva, EVOL and Goonswarm operate on communist lines allowing newer players endless ships.
EVE uni is a thing offering training and also plenty of guides for members and non members alike.
I often hand over hundreds of millions of isk worth of stuff for corpmates to transport.
My corpmates train me at PVP even though i suck at it.
I am sure many pvp corps are similar.
James and the new order are saving high sec.
Erotica allows plenty of observers to monitor her fun business program and donates billions to good causes.
Somer have funded plenty of in game and out of game stuff
Cannibal Kane (terrorist of our hearts) often picks battles based on how nice people are.
The myraid addons like IPH and dotlan we all use every day were made by players.

The beauty of eve is not that everyone is the villain but that everyone CAN be the villain and thus making trust a valuable commodity rather than something forced on you by game mechanics.
This is basically what Baltac (i hope i remembered the spelling of his name correctly ) said earlier but with more words.
The ability to trust appropriately is what marks a good eve player from a bad one imo.

That's being "lawful" which isn't necessarily "good".

When I have time to be online I help new corps get started which some might consider "good".

However I have also in the past been a merc and indulged in some piracy as well but would always honour a ransom and kept my word which isn't being "good" but it is being "lawful".

It's semantics I guess.

I would say a "good" player tries to genuinely enhance other players experience rather than just griefing and pretending that they are adding something to the game. Again a matter of semantics no doubt.

I notice you've forgotten somer blink, which ccp has put forward as an honest contributor to our community