EVE General Discussion

I am a Space Hippy at heart, lets get that out of the way. At the core of my being, under all the angst and pent up British rage is a person who'd at least like to see the Eve Universe a better place then when I came into it, yet as a game I'm finding it hard to translate that part of myself into meaningful Eve based actions. I know Eve is mainly PvP based and making isk, but it's left me asking the question that is there room in New Eden for good people to make changes using in game mechanics for the betterment and enjoyment of everyone? No, I don't mean fitting up a faction fit Tengu and sitting on a Low to Null gate and shouting "Come get some bitches", and I don't mean getting involved in Null Sec wars - whilst I respect people's love for working towards a common goal, they tend to be power based, either money, territory or who has the biggest e-penis via the kill boards*. All morally grey areas depending on which side of the fence you're sitting on. But that also means that kind actions do some more magnified. People I've had help from through out my time on Eve have always been remembered with warmth for the most part, and passing on the karma is always something I strive to do one way or another.


I guess the Even tonight kind of left me mulling over whether it's possible to actually be a good guy in the dark, cold confines of space? Actually how do you even define being 'good' in such a game? Or is being a good guy down to which side of the fence you sit on?


No, good is not me giving you all my stuff. Bless you for even thinking of even thinking of typing that.


(Apologies for using the word 'good' by the wayApologies for using the word 'good' by the way. I know it's a rather poor adjective, but it's more universal and a hell of a lot easier to define at gone 4am.)


* I am not good at PvP. In fact I'd say I'm pretty bad at it due to anxiety issues, but I still give it a go on occasions.

That actually made me smile. I mean I probably won't take up on the idea, oh wise offer of wisdom, but at least it gave me a chuckle. Besides if I was to ever feel the urge to lose a couple of zeros from my wallet, it'd probably be in the newbie areas.

I think there should be more incentives to be "good". Something to do with a lowsec focused on law vs crime has long been suggested as an alternative to just FW, but has never really made it to the top of the idea pile. Ideally it should involve both and be a relatively smooth transition between hisec and lowsec surrounding the conflict between those who fight for the factions in general and those who break the "law", as opposed to just inter-faction warfare.

I think a lot of people who shy away from the general purposelessness of pvp would appreciate it a lot more if they felt they were on the side of something beyond their own narrow self-interest, gang mentality, and/or personal achievement. That's not to devalue the existing reasons for conflict, just to add another one and draw in more people who have little gameplay incentive to enter into conflict with other players.

I am nice man with happy feelings all the time.

Shooting is just how I make friends. I'm bummed that more people don't understand that my Ferox is just trying to say hello. :(

I remember who Chribba is. For the life of me I can't remember the name of any corp heister regardless of the theft size.

I do a lot of good work helping vulnerable people in high sec. Some people accuse me of having a hero complex but I just want to bring a little happiness to those who need it most.

Maybe you are correct that thefts was not the best example to use. Now that i think about it i can really only remember the EVE bank heist my self

Instead you can think about people like...
Seelene, Sir Molle, The Mittani, Verone, Tank CEO...names many will know, but they know them mainly because these people have either lead, or been involved in events that involves wars, or in general just being the "bad guy".

The only other person i would consider a "good guy" that i can think about right now is Innominate Nightmare, but i know some will question that and say that his story was simply just a clever scam and thats why he suddenly disappeared. However, in my mind the stories were well worth the ISK he received.

Im sure i will remember more when im less tired

There's lots of good people I'm sure, but not many of them has the strength or time to show it as the way to get the label is very long.

/c

there isn't really good but there's lawful.

for example CVA, they operate on a Not Red Don't Shoot basis so they don't shoot neutrals in their space (for the most part)

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