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Absolute Travesty

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Henry Montclaire
Guild of Independent Pilots
DammFam
#1 - 2013-11-07 22:12:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Henry Montclaire
"CONCORD has put out a one-time call for capsuleers to provide backup [emphasis mine] on a 'massive, sustained assault on high-priority targets."

Thousands of loyal capsuleers gathered to assist the empires and were betrayed. We were led directly into a series of traps set by null sec capsuleers and given no military or logistics support by the empires we were supposedly providing backup for. In a best case scenario, our assets and the lives of our crews were squandered as unwitting decoys while Empire strike teams accomplished their objectives. Far more likely, the Empires sought to accomplish their own petty ends with absolutely no investment, hoping that volunteer capsuleers would shoulder the entire burden of dealing with this still secret 'threat'.

I for one do not appreciate being manipulated into sacrificing my ships and my people for an organization which refuses to provide even token support to its associates. As far as I'm concerned, and I reflect the sentiments of hundreds of people who I flew with in a fleet, this was an abject betrayal of men and women who were working to serve the greater good.

CONCORD and the Empires' handling of this situation is a travesty, and I personally call for the resignation of Ren Karetta, the fool who ordered unsupported capsuleer forces into a deathtrap and left caught in the bubbles to die. These Empire representatives and their leaders must be held accountable for their negligence and duplicity.
Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#2 - 2013-11-07 22:19:56 UTC
I suppose I am fortunate that I was meeting with associates in Matari space at the time.

"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"

-Matthew 16:26

Jennifer Maxwell
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#3 - 2013-11-07 22:27:07 UTC
I saw the writing on the wall en rout. No sign of Navy support, no sign of Concord support, and a direct rout into Nullsec through a known staging system for multiple Nullsec alliances.

I made the call to halt at the gate before Null. Didn't even have to listen to the intel channels to know what was on the other side.

Had we been given ANY intel about the target, we could have formed up a taskforce to break through the interdiction bubbles while the rest of the fleet kept the Alliances busy. But we received no such intel, and therefore the entire op was a failure.
Arista Shahni
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2013-11-07 22:36:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Arista Shahni
Those of us who reside in Empire space are well aware of the dangers of null. Those who are not aware are fully aware of the ghost stories.

Assuming that the Null blocs would let Empire pilots fly through 'for the sake of the pace of Empire Space' have rediculously underestimated just how much those alliances care about such things.

When you paint a living monster to reside in your bedroom, do not be surprised if it snatches your ankles when you come out of the bed in the dead of darkness. CONCORD's blanket only reaches so far.

I can feel the future all the way down to my bones - if they are even mine, anymore.

I will spend some time in reflection of those who have lost their lives in this harbinger of an incident.

"I say that even as the holy and the righteous cannot rise beyond the highest which is in each one of you - so the wicked and the weak cannot fall lower than the lowest which is in you also.  And as a single leaf turns not yellow but with the silent knowledge of the whole tree, so the wrong-doer cannot do wrong without the hidden will of you all."

Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#5 - 2013-11-07 22:37:07 UTC
Why didn't they use capitals to jump you directly to the target system? I'm a shoddy pilot at best and completely unversed in fleet mechanics, and even I would know better than to fly a fleet that massive through multiple zero-zone gates when Titans are at the beck and call of the empires.

Did the handlers not consider that?

"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"

-Matthew 16:26

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-11-07 22:56:28 UTC
I say here again.
We weren't betrayed by CONCORD.

We were "betrayed" by incompetence of capsuleer fleet commanders, who were bringing our fleets, who were unable to give clear commands, who were splitting fleets and getting small ships into gatecamps, while battleships were still travelling through busy high security space with turtle speeds.

When our battleships landed, everything was already over.

And we gathered in Sarum Prime way before the designated time.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Iwan Terpalen
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-11-07 23:11:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Iwan Terpalen
Jennifer Maxwell wrote:
I saw the writing on the wall en rout. No sign of Navy support, no sign of Concord support, and a direct rout into Nullsec through a known staging system for multiple Nullsec alliances[...]

Knowing when you're about to get massively screwed over is a rare skill, as is having the backbone to bow out when literally thousands of people are moving right along anyway.

Hang on to that.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#8 - 2013-11-07 23:42:34 UTC
I was already pre-disposed to ignore any call for help from Concord. Hearing what a charlie-fox this was has only reinforced my opinion.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#9 - 2013-11-08 00:05:14 UTC
If this is how our governments and enforcers carry out military operations, then my ships shall never again serve any purpose for any empire.


It is a wonder why we are all not shambling on some Sansha-held planet by now.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Saya Ishikari
Ishukone-Raata Technological Research Institute
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#10 - 2013-11-08 00:31:57 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
I was already pre-disposed to ignore any call for help from Concord. Hearing what a charlie-fox this was has only reinforced my opinion.

For once, I'm glad I missed out.

"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117

Steffanie Saissore
Tyrathlion Interstellar
#11 - 2013-11-08 01:02:02 UTC
I had been frustrated with the timing of the supposed offensive as other duties kept me from the pod, but hearing what happened , I am now glad I was unable to attend.

My thoughts go out those lost in this terrible debacle.

We travel in the dark of the new moon,

A starry highway traced on the map of the sky

Vikarion
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-11-08 01:06:22 UTC
I had other obligations - specifically, reading the latest issue of Stupid Ship Deaths Quarterly - to attend to. I suspect a special supplement to the last issue will be available soon. Looking forward to it.
Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#13 - 2013-11-08 01:07:54 UTC
I would blame CONCORD, but from what I hear, every reason they would set this operation up to fail seems very much like a tinfoil hat conspiracy. If today proved anything for me, it's that I'm very lucky to have my job and not a naval combat role. I suppose that is why the Sansha, Serpentis, and their ilk still survive even though CONCORD and the major empires dislike them so much. Even a few thousand capsuleers can't appreciably make an offensive into defended space work. It simply becomes a shoal of fish.

"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"

-Matthew 16:26

Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#14 - 2013-11-08 02:00:53 UTC
Well, it was quite a nice trap, really.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.

Alizabeth Vea
Doomheim
#15 - 2013-11-08 02:15:21 UTC
If the Imperial Navy desires some advice on 0.0 operations, I would be happy to give it.

Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.

"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I

Virtue. Valor. Victory.

Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#16 - 2013-11-08 02:31:19 UTC
Alizabeth Vea wrote:
If the Imperial Navy desires some advice on 0.0 operations, I would be happy to give it.


You know, I usually don't agree with you... but when I do...

... I need a drink.

Katrina Oniseki

James Syagrius
Luminaire Sovereign Solutions
#17 - 2013-11-08 02:46:57 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
I was already pre-disposed to ignore any call for help from Concord. Hearing what a charlie-fox this was has only reinforced my opinion.

On this at least we agree.

For me and mine, we ignored the request.
Kel hound
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-11-08 03:01:13 UTC
You know. If it wasnt for the CONCORD anti cap ship tech that keeps our capital fleets out of highsec, I don't think the empires could keep us out. Not with incompetence like this at the helm.

Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Alizabeth Vea wrote:
If the Imperial Navy desires some advice on 0.0 operations, I would be happy to give it.


You know, I usually don't agree with you... but when I do...

... I need a drink.



Pour one for me as well would you?
Oh, and if I ever start saying I want to move back to empire, just remind me of this hairball op.
Bryen Verrisai
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-11-08 03:41:09 UTC
Kel hound wrote:
You know. If it wasnt for the CONCORD anti cap ship tech that keeps our capital fleets out of highsec, I don't think the empires could keep us out. Not with incompetence like this at the helm.

It's clear they were operating out of their usual environment and territory, and it's a shame they weren't more prepared.

As a piece of friendly wisdom however, I might caution residents of null from believing they are incapable of making the same deadly mistake.
Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#20 - 2013-11-08 03:51:22 UTC
Oh, that's my favorite flavor of vod...! Er, wait. No, no nevermind.
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