EVE General Discussion

Well it certainly introduced a lot of tears.

Highseccers morale.

Take a deep breath and remember one thing: People play the game for different reasons. You're utterly right, people lose ships for stupid reasons, but ranting at people isn't going to help convince them to try risking their butt for fun.

Personally I like the fact that Eve attracts all sorts - from PvPers to RPing, to the scammers. It adds diversity to the whole affair.

So....Organized null sec fleet destroys ragtag bunch of mission boats and worse. More at 11.

another good issue, they said we were there to destroy a pirate research station (creating those upcoming inplants) but for 1 I was never actually told where the station was or how to destroy it. So yeah.

Would like to see an image of what we where actually supposed to destroy.

One thing is certain, if there was a goal to introduce highsec players to nullsec PVP, this is not the way to do it.

All they did was damage it.

Already the notion about nullsec is "You jump in, get podded. Nullsec."

And in the Live Events channel, I was seeing that. "Made it into the system, in a pod now".

Nullsec players will be smug about this for a while, then go back to wondering why they are so bored until their bosses decide to fight over something or go back to camping gates with disposable alts in highsec.

With this level of damage done, CCP will never be able to do something like this again. Next time they try this, it'll be a fleet of T1 frigs or everybody simply deciding not to pad someone else's killboard.


And if the only way to avoid ending up on someone else's killboard is to avoid them, then that's exactly what will happen.

I think comparing high sec vs. null sec power is sort of comparing apples and oranges, in this case. The high sec guys were a crowd of uncoordinated strangers, probably fit for PVE. Wandering into an area where everybody is ready for PVP at any time, in the same alliance, and easily able to communicate and coordinate with each other. It's kind of like a hockey team wandered into an armed infantry base.

yeah when I saw that I new this was going to be a pvp event. But even I didn't realise what it was going to be like. And yes I did see a lot of new people to pvp tagging along and having a go. This is admirable, pity the result was a mess.



of course there is no question of balance of power, my main point is that is what likely to happen if you suddenly remove restriction on high/low sec and allow sovereignty to be created. Suddenly you have all the alliances advancing into old empire space while most people (apart from low sec alliances and the few high sec capitals) scramble to set up the facilities to build capital ships to protect themselves (assuming they having the skills to use them and the null alliances haven't brought all the assembly arrays before hand).

Given todays result it looks like the nulls would rule all of eve before the 12 day build time of highsec capitals was done.

1) Putting everyone in a uniform fleet comp (t1 frigs) consisting of ships with similar capabilities in terms of speed, align time, tracking, and optimals would be a massive improvement over today's showing.

2) Did you have a forward scout? Did you have a designated FC? Was everyone on voice comms? Did you have a proper fleet comp? If you can't answer yes to those four questions, you will always get podded in nullsec.

Welcome to the real game, that is to say, not shooting red crosses and rocks in complete safety.

In the end, it was, atleast for me, a wonderfull demonstration how "awesome" cyno's can work. (No travel, insta-blob-fest) Beside the stupidity for telling Hisec participants to move around 16 jumps with tidi 10% (most of the time), it was at some point unclear if the event is still going on or has been finished "by objective".
I still believe that all the great plan behind this was to burn ISK. Atleast this got completed!