Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Just another thing that CCP wont change because they like the bullies. Camping station undocks is another one of these. ofc It's also completely realistic from a storyline perspective that a sole legion would be able to tank the entire police force of hubs like Jita and Hek 23/7 ganking with impunity.

tbh:
the one thing i dislike most in eve is that it forces you to have at last 2 accounts if you ever want to leave highsec.
does it realy have to be sucky for players that just want to be on their own for once to have a rewarding expirience for groups?

else, i dont care much about the gatecamp discussion.

Just as all chess players are active participants of regicide. I think it's a terrible state of affairs and should be banned asap.

On a serious note, if someone is ganking in a Legion and keeping it, then they are not committing a crime. If they had, Concord would gladly take that Legion off them. This doesn't mean of course, that they wouldn't be open to boat violence from other players. Please check the Crimewatch mechanics, for more information.
Thank you.

really? Because that would be utterly impossible in game. CONCORD cannot be tanked. The navy can, but don't they neut?

You've got it wrong, mate. This won't really limit gameplay. It will simply push the gatecamps out of their comfortable, easy ISK/hour chair and force some new innovation. I'm not really against people being bastards in this game, it's what drew so many of us in to start with. I just feel that gatecam kill farming has had its day in the sun, and it's time for some enforced innovation.

Thank you for keeping your cool, by the way, and you're right in your second post that I was a bit over touchy on the subject which is NOT helpful when trying to have a real debate about gatecamps and what, if anything, should be done. Quite immature of me.


On another note, about the Legion killing people with impunity.
This is typically done to newbies who don't understand the aggression mechanics and proceed ragequit the game.
CCP's slick redesign is a signal that they take this problem very seriously.
We all know that their servers run on tears, but the tears of utter noobs are not salty enough yet, and dry up too fast.

P.S. I forgot to mention, I freely acknowledge that I am not much of a lowsec pvp master, and sometimes i play this game solo. It may be that for the bittervets, operating with all their knowledge, gatecamps are not an issue, which is why I posted this with very little in the way of suggestions or analysis. I wanted info from those that KNOW, about whether gatecamps are a problem.
Also, solo play does not give you herpes. I know we're all very proud of our mastery of this game, and the corps and friends we fly with are dear to us. But that doesn't mean EVERYONE has to fleet up to do absolutely EVERYTHINNG.
Typical play sessions in this game can stretch to huge amounts, and is related to how large your fleet has to be in order to do whatever you're doing.
If I need to get 100 people together to run sites in a wormhole, we run for as long as we possibly can because we know if we stop, it will be a while before everyone can get organised enough to have another bash.
Less pressure to fleet up means more solo pvp. I heard some lowsec people like that kind of thing.

No, just need to pick better entry points. I spent a few hours taking frigates into low to hero tackle in FW sites and only came across one camp half that size.

Hiding your corporation, OP, cute.

Your own corp has a low sec campus to help people learn the game. How much time have you spent there with the members that enjoy low sec?

You don't introduce a nerf to a game mechanic because you feel it has had its day in the sun without any reason. If low sec was o my gatecamps maybe but it is much more than that.

You speak of bitter vets but the lack of knowledge presented here can also harm an area. Low sec is an Eco system. People who camp gates know they are vulnerable. Predatory groups hunt them right back. You may not see it but that does not mean it is not there.

Next you will complain about null sec gate camps?

The only gate camps that are BAD for gameplay are the near permanent smartbomb camps. Those really disrupt heavily, specially new players that have no idea that is possible and will nto learn because they will not even understand why thei died.




I still think gate guns should increase dps every 30 mnutes until the target ship dies or mvoe away for a while. Time enoughto have real fights... BUt can prevent extremely long samrtbomb stuff.