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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R.
#1 - 2013-11-06 18:35:31 UTC
CCP,

It's been 10 years, and your game is aging badly. Have you ever considered EVE 2.0?

Set up a kickstarter, or get some capital some other way, and rewrite your Frankenstein code from the bottom up. That's all - rewrite it, make it tighter, make it cleaner, make it easier to adjust in the future. Take advantage of new hardware technologies and build in room to take advantage of future upgrades. And make it more compatible with walking in stations :)

And ****, just this once, sell it as an expansion rather than giving it away. Between start up capital and sales, you could hopefully spend upwards of $20 million giving EVE a much needed facelift, that'll hopefully allow you to 1) fix longstanding problems 2) run everything smoother (less TiDi, more responsive game) 3) add new features and upgrades without making it sound like you need the Rosetta Stone to understand how to code it.

Please?

I am not an alt of Chribba.
Tikitina
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-11-06 18:37:49 UTC
Old idea.

Basically, you don't do a ver 2.0 for something that is still in development.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#3 - 2013-11-06 18:37:59 UTC
Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
#4 - 2013-11-06 18:40:02 UTC
i'd pay for a v2.0 if i could upgrade using plex Twisted
Anomaly One
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-11-06 18:40:38 UTC
Quote:
Please?


no
Seetesh
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-11-06 18:47:55 UTC
This game isn't like other mmo level base games. Eve has a very hardcore backbone of players. Those ideas simply won't cut it. I've played for over ten years now and I love the game. It doesn't feel dated at all. It feels different and unique compared to other mmos. Eve is a much more complicated game then say sto or wow with their different realms and sessions.
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R.
#7 - 2013-11-06 18:51:11 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Nah.


Interesting, but not directly applicable. Mostly because it does appear that the problems with EVE's code are architectural, and a ground-up rebuild would make a HUGE difference.

EVE was initially designed with a playerbase of approximately 100,00 players in mind (like 20k concurrent users), and was designed that way over a decade ago. It sure as **** isn't optimized for using any of the current generation of hardware.

They're already giving us "expansions" that add next to nothing of value - why not spend an expansion with no up front frills, just a lot of back-end work (that's what she said?).

Improve/eliminate the need for TiDi. Improve the ability to fix bugs on the fly, or add features that take forever to code nowadays (T3 reftting, anyone?) . . . . better UI, across the board, better handling of server queries; long story short, a more responsive game that is in a better position to grow in the next ten years, rather than reaching a stagnation point where adding a simple feature takes a whole team half an expansion cycle just because of crappy code.

I am not an alt of Chribba.
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-11-06 18:52:01 UTC
Ageing badly? Wut?

Dodixie > Hek
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R.
#9 - 2013-11-06 18:52:05 UTC
Seetesh wrote:
This game isn't like other mmo level base games. Eve has a very hardcore backbone of players. Those ideas simply won't cut it. I've played for over ten years now and I love the game. It doesn't feel dated at all. It feels different and unique compared to other mmos. Eve is a much more complicated game then say sto or wow with their different realms and sessions.


Uh, I agree with you, so . . . what's your point, exactly?

I am not an alt of Chribba.
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#10 - 2013-11-06 18:53:04 UTC
Sadly, it would not work, because of code being polished all the time, they made this frankenstein really cute for those 10 years. No point in reviving another one. Cool

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2013-11-06 18:54:23 UTC
I'd rather see an Exalted MMO than Eve XP or w/e.
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R.
#12 - 2013-11-06 18:54:26 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
Ageing badly? Wut?


TiDi.

Node crashes.

Huge difficulty just allowing T3 ships to refit anywhere other than a station.

SMA's not dropping loot for a year because it was too hard to effectively code.

Freighter salvage issues because of problems with the code.

Walking in Captain's Quarters (much less stations) being a computational nightmare.

One second server ticks.

Terribad UI.

Wut?

I am not an alt of Chribba.
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R.
#13 - 2013-11-06 18:55:16 UTC
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
because of code being polished all the time


dirty

I am not an alt of Chribba.
mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
#14 - 2013-11-06 18:58:27 UTC
You seem to be entirely unaware of the Carbon initiative.

For the past few years, a huge amount of dev effort has gone into rewriting parts of the Eve code-base from the ground up in a modular fashion that can be used across all CCP products,

Just because you don't see splash screens and advertisements doesn't mean that "Eve 2.0" isn't happening.

As for a total, ground up rewrite of every single system in the game, you're looking at a good 5+ years of dev time, assuming every Eve dev stops working on the game and works exclusively on the rewrite.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#15 - 2013-11-06 19:20:19 UTC
Go back to the Pandaverse.




Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Tikitina
Doomheim
#16 - 2013-11-06 19:28:57 UTC
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:
ElQuirko wrote:
Ageing badly? Wut?


TiDi.

Node crashes.

Huge difficulty just allowing T3 ships to refit anywhere other than a station.

SMA's not dropping loot for a year because it was too hard to effectively code.

Freighter salvage issues because of problems with the code.

Walking in Captain's Quarters (much less stations) being a computational nightmare.

One second server ticks.

Terribad UI.

Wut?



You must be new here.

Life before TiDi? just wow.
Node Crashes? I haven't had one where I've been for a few years.
T3 Issue: So? What in this Universe (RL) is perfect?
SMA issue. So? low pri thing for me. If I want a piñata, I'd get a real one.
Freighter Salvage issue: So? I'm sure its on a list to-do
Incarna - Why are you using that?
One Second ticks - Think about it....
UI - It used to be worse "Jump" right next to "Bridge".

Wut - What?
To Be Me
Doomheim
#17 - 2013-11-06 19:32:17 UTC
eve is in beta still the final product to come out in a few more years (decades).. errr i mean maybe it will come out one day, who knows!

thumbs up if you like :))))
Krimishkev
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2013-11-06 19:32:40 UTC
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:


Please?



Wait... you haven't heard? Half-naked Vampires and Console FPS is the _in thing_ now.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#19 - 2013-11-06 19:33:52 UTC
Tikitina wrote:
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:
ElQuirko wrote:
Ageing badly? Wut?


TiDi.

Node crashes.

Huge difficulty just allowing T3 ships to refit anywhere other than a station.

SMA's not dropping loot for a year because it was too hard to effectively code.

Freighter salvage issues because of problems with the code.

Walking in Captain's Quarters (much less stations) being a computational nightmare.

One second server ticks.

Terribad UI.

Wut?



You must be new here.

Life before TiDi? just wow.
Node Crashes? I haven't had one where I've been for a few years.
T3 Issue: So? What in this Universe (RL) is perfect?
SMA issue. So? low pri thing for me. If I want a piñata, I'd get a real one.
Freighter Salvage issue: So? I'm sure its on a list to-do
Incarna - Why are you using that?
One Second ticks - Think about it....
UI - It used to be worse "Jump" right next to "Bridge".

Wut - What?





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J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-11-06 19:37:09 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
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