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PvE in this game is Not Fun.
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Thomas Hurt
Future Ventures
#1 - 2013-11-06 15:17:50 UTC
The PvE in this game is Not Fun. For most (normal) people, it is straight up chore to do any sort of ratting or missioning, and the only thing that makes it tolerable is bullshitting on voicechat with other people that are doing it with you. I humbly request that CCP do something to make the PvE in E.v.E. entertaining/engrossing/interesting and at least vaguely tolerable.
Galen Darksmith
Sky Fighters
Rote Kapelle
#2 - 2013-11-06 15:20:07 UTC
Thomas Hurt wrote:
The PvE in this game is Not Fun. For most (normal) people, it is straight up chore to do any sort of ratting or missioning, and the only thing that makes it tolerable is bullshitting on voicechat with other people that are doing it with you. I humbly request that CCP do something to make the PvE in E.v.E. entertaining/engrossing/interesting and at least vaguely tolerable.


I've not played a single mmo where the PvE was fun.

"EVE is a dark and harsh world, you're supposed to feel a bit worried and slightly angry when you log in, you're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, that's what hello kitty online is for." -CCP Wrangler
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-11-06 15:20:37 UTC
This post is only like 10 years too late.

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Mythrandier
Solace Corp
#4 - 2013-11-06 15:21:36 UTC

While I agree that PVE in this game is utter horse ****, there is a list of things that CCP need to look at first thats so long it cant see PVE content on a clear day.

"In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." -  D. Adams.
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#5 - 2013-11-06 15:21:44 UTC
EVE was never build to be a PVE game, it's an after thought. If you want a theme park ride then there are other games to consider.

GL.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2013-11-06 15:25:27 UTC
Thomas Hurt wrote:
The PvE in this game is Not Fun. For most (normal) people, it is straight up chore to do any sort of ratting or missioning, and the only thing that makes it tolerable is bullshitting on voicechat with other people that are doing it with you. I humbly request that CCP do something to make the PvE in E.v.E. entertaining/engrossing/interesting and at least vaguely tolerable.

In my experience everything can be fun or terrible alike depending on the dosage. I do not do a awful lot of PVE, but when I do, I do it in low sec. That way it is fun because of the constant need for awareness. Check d-scan, check local....the bigger the challenge the more fun the game grants you...

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criativa
Zugleich Techniken
#7 - 2013-11-06 15:28:58 UTC
Galen Darksmith wrote:
I've not played a single mmo where the PvE was fun.


This.

There is no PvE fun that lasts forever. After the initial excitment you master the AI and everything becomes highly predictable, therefore, boring.
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#8 - 2013-11-06 15:29:40 UTC
Fighting NPCs was never that fun to me. But soloing an epic mission arc such as Wildfire is a challenge, in a T1 BS at least. You have to play it kind of like a chess game to win. I could see why my old corp mates were so into soloing higher level missions-- it takes thinking in your ship fits and some tactical planning in your execution.
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-11-06 15:30:53 UTC
The only fun PVE I ever had was in AI Wars.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
gobbybobby
Negative-Impact
#10 - 2013-11-06 15:34:37 UTC
PVE can be pretty fun, especially if ur in a group doing the harder sites (8/10, 10/10s, lvl 5 missions, and the like) Yer u can solo em but more fun in a fleet with voice coms.
Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#11 - 2013-11-06 15:38:18 UTC
Thomas Hurt wrote:
The PvE in this game is Not Fun. For most (normal) people, it is straight up chore to do any sort of ratting or missioning, and the only thing that makes it tolerable is bullshitting on voicechat with other people that are doing it with you. I humbly request that CCP do something to make the PvE in E.v.E. entertaining/engrossing/interesting and at least vaguely tolerable.


This post is the opposite of welcome.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

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Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-11-06 15:43:34 UTC
Just to further strengthen our point, I've never seen any MMO that had fun pve content that could keep my attention for more than 30 minutes.

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#13 - 2013-11-06 15:51:51 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
Fighting NPCs was never that fun to me. But soloing an epic mission arc such as Wildfire is a challenge, in a T1 BS at least. You have to play it kind of like a chess game to win. I could see why my old corp mates were so into soloing higher level missions-- it takes thinking in your ship fits and some tactical planning in your execution.


Wildfire was indeed an interesting challenge. But I gave up on the Amarr Epic Arc on the last mission, which would have involved facing around 20 waves of ships.

That kind of non-challenging grind is just not worth doing. At all.

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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#14 - 2013-11-06 16:18:56 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Khergit Deserters wrote:
Fighting NPCs was never that fun to me. But soloing an epic mission arc such as Wildfire is a challenge, in a T1 BS at least. You have to play it kind of like a chess game to win. I could see why my old corp mates were so into soloing higher level missions-- it takes thinking in your ship fits and some tactical planning in your execution.


Wildfire was indeed an interesting challenge. But I gave up on the Amarr Epic Arc on the last mission, which would have involved facing around 20 waves of ships.

That kind of non-challenging grind is just not worth doing. At all.

I hear you Krixtal. That's too long of a grind for one continuous session. There needs to be a pause button. "Crap, I did 10 of 20 waves, and now I have to log. All 20 waves will have respawned when I'm on again tomorrow."
Farrell Jay
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-11-06 16:21:41 UTC
Incursions and sleeper sites can be fun due to the increased risk/reward, similar thing with high level complexes. Though I agree doing L4s in highsec day in and day out must be mind numbing, it's a wonder why/how so many do it.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2013-11-06 16:28:05 UTC
Well... that's the point.
PvE isn't supposed to be fun. It's just a small part of the game
that's not actually important, as you can observe.

It keeps cash cows ingame and helps PvPers make money.

That's it.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2013-11-06 16:32:02 UTC
Farrell Jay wrote:
Incursions and sleeper sites can be fun due to the increased risk/reward, similar thing with high level complexes. Though I agree doing L4s in highsec day in and day out must be mind numbing, it's a wonder why/how so many do
It gives the lowest of the lowest a fake sense of accomplishment.
You can spot them easily. It's those who insult you and scream death threats at you
for blowing up their space pixels aka bloated ego.
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#18 - 2013-11-06 16:32:02 UTC
Farrell Jay wrote:
Incursions and sleeper sites can be fun due to the increased risk/reward, similar thing with high level complexes. Though I agree doing L4s in highsec day in and day out must be mind numbing, it's a wonder why/how so many do it.


People do L4's when they have limited gameplay time, which does not allow them to jump into something like incursions.
For incursions, you need a minimum of a 2 hour block of time where you are at the keyboard and sharp. That includes the typical 30 minutes to migrate your ships from one incursion constellation to the next one. Even if you are in the active constellation, may communities have wait lists to get into fleets, or take time to form a fleet.
And if you bail after just 30 minutes in a fleet, the FC will take a dim view of you in the long run.

So yeah, L4's are a necessity for many people.
And there also the people that simply don't have the skills, ISK, or inclination for high end ship play with others.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#19 - 2013-11-06 16:49:56 UTC
That's why you get paid isk for doing it.
Knights Armament
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-11-06 16:54:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Knights Armament
PvE is fun for some people

I remember the first time I entered a dungeon in Ultima Online, deceit I believe, the atmosphere made it enjoyable, and running into lich lords & player killers made it scary.

In most mmorpgs boss fights have some kind of mechanics to them, and this makes pve more challenging for some people, but its meh I can take it or leave it in EvE. EvE is a space game with terrible physics, submarines in space, it is kind of difficult to make the boss fights interesting.

If CCP incorporated DUST into the EvE client then we could have ground based pve.

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