Missions & Complexes

I live in gurista space and the value of DED and Combat sites has dropped to just about Nill. Is there a bug or something?

DED I only get OSE, combat sites dont drop anything

For reference I run NULL Sec gurista doing 6/10's, 7/10's, 8/10's and all combat sites. But I get nothing.

I've been leaning to go back to the tedium of anoms or belt ratting as the income now appears to be significantly higher for the work.

Anyoen else getting this problem?

Or am I just having massive bad luck?

It's actually been months of nothing. And the really odd thing I found was, i'm not even getting meta 0-4 loot in the drops really. Often it's just an empty can with ammo or scrap and the OSE if its a DED site.

ya for me the greatest payout if often the only payout has been from rat bounties.

As an old explorer having this long of a dry spell is really not normal for me.

I've had a ****** month before, but never consecutive months.

I did 2X 6/10 Yesterday and did not get a huge amount but better than nothing, 2 BPCs and a remote repairer and plating.

I have also received Invlus and a few other high priced mods in the past week or 2.

My experience is:

There are more DED plexes but thay share the same amount of loot. So Good drops still avaialble but less frequent. More DED plexes need to be done to get Good drops.

My theory is that CCP wishes to encourage exploring. Therefore creating more Plexes means more chances of finding something. For us professional explorers it feel a bit crap cos we have to go through more sites to keep up income.

Um, that right there should have opened your eyes. Having weeks of bad runs, then 1 good hit followed by more weeks of bad runs is not RNG and it's definitely not the exploration I remember.

I've said it before and I'll say it again : Due to Soundwave & Co. doing their 'War On Gun Mining', CCP has nerfed loot drops all the way back to the time of Castor. Only 1/5th of the wrecks contain loot. 2/3rds of those loot wrecks contain only 1x Metal Scrap. Hell, even a blind person can see loot drops have been drastically reduced from how it use to be.

Commander NPC's rarely ever drop anything other than the usual Faction Ammo and Pirate Tags now. Getting an escalation is a rare occurrence and having an expedition actually go to last stage is virtually a miracle. If by chance the miracle does happen, the Overseer usually just drops an OPE and nothing else.

I'm sorry but that's how it's been for quite a while now. It's nothing more than an insulting slap in the face and to pass it off as RNG is both foolish and incorrect.


DMC

Heh, I've been doing Exploration for almost 5 years now and anyone who says loot drops, escalations, etc., are still the same is either talking out their arse or they're a CCP alt trying to do damage control..


DMC

I have run hundreds of serpentis dens. The best streak I got, was 2 escalations in a row followed by 1 fail followed by another escalation (ie 3 in 4). The worst streaks I got was over 100 dens between escalations.

Does that help you understand random numbers better ?

IMO the escalation rate of a gurista rally point, may well be set at 1 in 60 (based on my total escalation rate currently hovering around 1 in 58 for the 400 or so null anomolies I've done). I got escalations at 22, 56 and am now up to 210 with no further escalations. ie the same player has sampled one escalation every 23 runs, and no escalations in 154 runs.

Those are all completely normal samples, that don't require CCP to change things to make happen. That is how random numbers work.

This is the difference bettween folks like you and folks like Crimson, you rely on observable and measureable facts. Nice work.

Noone knows, because CCP doesn't tell. The best thing we can do is to believe people like Tauranon, that actually have a good amount of data over a good amount of time.

That being said, i wouldn't theoretically abandon the idea of CCP adjusting drop rates (slightly) behind the scenes. If you look at the deadspace market currently (i am not sure if every mod, but for sure the medium sizes), it is pretty clear that much more supply is making the prices crumble. That's because of more people doing exploration and also because of easier scanning. So CCP could think '**** look at the market there tanking, we need to adjust a little for all these new explorers' - but maybe they don't and are okay with it, we can't tell.

The only thing i dislike about the current state is that for me the 'big hits' are not what i remember them being worth and that to make the same isk i need to run more plexes - it feels a bit more like a grind now. That comes with a profession being put in the spotlight, i guess.