EVE General Discussion

So, you are asking for other people to change their playstyle to suit yours. As changing the game mechanics to make wardecs harder so that people who are having fun by just wardeccing for the lulz can't do that anymore.

I think the MAJOR reason for a lot of things happening here is the lack of information.

A lot of the New Player retention can be fixed by giving them information in the NPE about what the extra options you get but also what the downsides are of joining/creating a player corp are.

If the tutorial / NPE would mention that WHEN you are in a player corp you can be wardec'd and that this includes non CONCORD fighting everywhere, it would mean that those that do join a player corp know about the 'risk' they are taking.

Also, you say increase the wardecs. I say MASSIVELY increase the costs of creating / maintaining a corporation.

ATM you only need less then 1 hour of skill + about 1.6mil to create a corp and you are done...
At least the mechanics of wardec DID change...
Now let's make creating a corp harder, so that those who really want a corp, know what they are doing by not making it this easy to make one.

Also, currently there is already a mechanic that an alliance has to pay monthly for the amount of corps that are part of the alliance to CONCORD. Do the same for a corp, make it have a monthly fee in regards to how big they are, as a bigger corp gets more income from their members tax, they can sustain them self more easily then a 3 man corp. And we all know that there is safety in numbers...

If you don't want to be part of a big corp and play with friends. You can still do that, you just have to work together to pay for it.

OR

You can all hang out in NPC corp and just create a private chat channel where you hang out together. You don't have to be in the same corp to do stuff together (hell, most of my activities in EVE revolve around doing public stuff with people in different corps / alliances).

Sure you will have to pay that 11% tax to the NPC corp, see that as a tax you pay to not be able to wardec'd and you can't drop a POS. Well, that is called having pros and cons on things.

i'll try to give you a few explanation.

first, eve is about player interactions.
whatever you do, it goes in "pvp", this doesn't mean combat, if you mine, you most probably end selling the rocks / minerals / whatever you produced to another player.
doing that, you will "fight" other players on the price tag

any activity in eve, called pve, is in fact a mean to make such interactions happen sooner or later.

now about the fight themselves.

the big fights you most probably refers, are the null ones, where various entitys fight over sov on systems / constellations / regions most of the time because of the ressources they contain.

in lowsec, same is true, most of the time on a lower scale, but the main reasons are the roughly the same: create a "safe" area to collects pve fruits.

so in the end, pve is always a mean for players to interact, one way or another


players actions, whether they are pve or pvp related, do in fact influence the game, i suggest you take a look at the gallente ice interdiction, or the status of the game when otec was live.

in a nutshell, a player driven entity managed to interdict / control one particuliar ressource, driving it's price up

this was done by pvp, and also through metagaming (alliances / non-aggresion pacts etc....)

what CCP provides us is en environment, with some pve content, and a few rules. the rest is up to us.

to go back on your comment, why does it matters?

well, if the beaten fleet was, for example, 200 dominixes, they will replaces them right? so someone, somewhere, will produce those, from material he or someone else mined.

the whole economy being player driven, CCP providing only the raw materials and some tools, means player shall do the rest, up to the point where someone will sell a dominix in jita.

same goes for everything, ships / modules / pos / ammunition / drones / fuel .....you name it

in a nutshell: why does it matters big fights occurs (in fact, fights whatever their size): this is what drives the whole economy of the game, leading you, miner or mission runner, to actually sell your minerals / loot!

oh good god, this thread still hasn't been locked?

deleted, made no sense at all