EVE General Discussion

War is a necessary part of Eve - without wars and general pvp the market will become saturated and would threaten the financial infrastructure that is finely balanced.

But now I see some corps wardec 8 or 10 others at a time - they can afford to pay this as they will catch miners in T2 ore ships and the loot will pay for a prolonged campaign. However many of the wardecced corps will merely suffer the inconvenience of war, having to switch to alts, or temporarily leave their corp to continue playing their game normally.

That is when they are out-matched and unlikely to combat this wardec from a hostile corp.

I have heard of many people leaving Eve, rather than do any of the alternatives mentioned. After several wardecs they have grown tired of the losses, inconvenience, and the ease at which a hostile corp can wardec so many others with a relatively minimal initial outlay.

In truth, wardeccing should be expensive. It should be a final resort, not a casual affair done by pvp-corps to pass the time. There should be a limit to the number of corps they can 'dec at any time. I would put that at 3.

The price should escalate over weeks, doubling every week.

As we see in real life, war is not declared cheaply and is done rarely.

I am concerned that the wardeccers will drive away the others who wish to enjoy the rest of the elements Eve has to offer. While they serve a purpose they may harm the enjoyment of the majority of capsuleers.

The best part of this game is starting a corporation, getting going with making a name for it, and as soon as you do anything that even remotely bothers anyone, you're wardec'd and going to lose everything.

wardec doesn't mean "lose everything". it only means someone will have rights to engage you.

As person from FW i can assure you - this is not as big problem as you think.

Wars are fine. The problem is the people who believe (wrongly) that they should be allowed to mine (or whatever) in complete peace and without any outside interaction (ganking, wars, whatever).

I thought wars DID get more expensive the longer they lasted....if they don't, then yeaaaah that should be fixed.

If you're in a newbie corp and get wardecced, you just have to be patient. The wardec will go away someday. Sure, being almost powerless against more experienced, shinier-shipped wardeccers is kind of frustrating and humiliating. But on the other hand, the challenge is really interesting. I can remember some excellent war room strategy discussions among my newb corp members. Much more interesting than discussing ship fits, L4 missions tactics, etc. In the end dealing with the wardec made the corp leadership smarter and made us tighter overall as a team. And the guys who were just in it for themselves left the corp. That was an added bonus.

Yes, lets dumb down this even more, and hold everyone's cackerybone.

Thanks for the Comic GD Ridicu-Quote of the Day. I don't even sometimes...................

CCP has always touted EVE as a dystopian universe ... nowhere in any of the ads or trailers (or news articles about "bad things" happening to people) have they even hinted at the possibility of being safe anywhere.

If someone can read/watch all of that and come to the conclusion that you can play EVE without forced (violent) interactions with other players, then their expectations were wrong in the first place. They should never have been a customer in the first place, much less a "lost" customer.

It's the same bogus argument that the *IAA uses -- "anyone who downloads [movie|song] represents a lost sale of that [movie|song]".

There's also the long-standing option of hiring mercs and the newer option of recruiting allies. Plus the old option of forming a "holding" corp and having everybody move into it until the wardec is over. There are some strategic options available. Real, unexpected challenges + variety of strategic and tactical options to consider = basic risk management-optimization of benefits that all living creatures have to do = interesting gameplay.