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Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#41 - 2013-11-05 19:12:28 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
Laserak wrote:
The most basic impact siphons will have is an increase in the price of R64 products. Hypothetically lets say everyone goes nuts dropping siphons everywhere and about 20% of current goo production is lost via siphons. Price rises- moongoo value goes up.

If we previously made say 500b per month on high value moons, a 20% increase would be a 100b cherry on top of that 500b per month. I'll take it.

Go nuts with them siphons guys Smile

(no to tears were shed in the crafting of this post)


Tears were almost certainly flooding out of the quoted person during the crafting of his post. You seem to feel that moongoo is being lost, meaning an increase in demand. No, it's just being redistributed, meaning that you're gonna take a 20% hit and everyone else is getting a 20% gain. It wouldn't be ridiculous to say that prices may go down due to attempted undercutting during firesales of moongoo.


10% of the moongoo siphoned will be destroyed by the siphoning process. So any theft will actually result in a reduced supply. The 20% number you quoted was wrong but you completely failed to understand the concept which is much worse.
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2013-11-05 19:32:58 UTC
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
ElQuirko wrote:
Laserak wrote:
The most basic impact siphons will have is an increase in the price of R64 products. Hypothetically lets say everyone goes nuts dropping siphons everywhere and about 20% of current goo production is lost via siphons. Price rises- moongoo value goes up.

If we previously made say 500b per month on high value moons, a 20% increase would be a 100b cherry on top of that 500b per month. I'll take it.

Go nuts with them siphons guys Smile

(no to tears were shed in the crafting of this post)


Tears were almost certainly flooding out of the quoted person during the crafting of his post. You seem to feel that moongoo is being lost, meaning an increase in demand. No, it's just being redistributed, meaning that you're gonna take a 20% hit and everyone else is getting a 20% gain. It wouldn't be ridiculous to say that prices may go down due to attempted undercutting during firesales of moongoo.


10% of the moongoo siphoned will be destroyed by the siphoning process. So any theft will actually result in a reduced supply. The 20% number you quoted was wrong but you completely failed to understand the concept which is much worse.


Forgive me, o mighty goonlord (Roll), but the 20% number is your number, not mine. Since I'm working with your figures, would you care to explain your nonsensical concept?

If 20% of current moongoo production figures was to be lost, then surely we'd have to have double the number of moons we have now? TEN percent is lost by siphons, so a maximum TEN percent of total production can be lost.

Dodixie > Hek
Jythier Smith
BGG Wolves
#43 - 2013-11-05 19:36:51 UTC
Won't the corps just take the moongoo back out of the syphon before they destroy it?
Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2013-11-05 19:37:40 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
ElQuirko wrote:
Laserak wrote:
The most basic impact siphons will have is an increase in the price of R64 products. Hypothetically lets say everyone goes nuts dropping siphons everywhere and about 20% of current goo production is lost via siphons. Price rises- moongoo value goes up.

If we previously made say 500b per month on high value moons, a 20% increase would be a 100b cherry on top of that 500b per month. I'll take it.

Go nuts with them siphons guys Smile

(no to tears were shed in the crafting of this post)


Tears were almost certainly flooding out of the quoted person during the crafting of his post. You seem to feel that moongoo is being lost, meaning an increase in demand. No, it's just being redistributed, meaning that you're gonna take a 20% hit and everyone else is getting a 20% gain. It wouldn't be ridiculous to say that prices may go down due to attempted undercutting during firesales of moongoo.


10% of the moongoo siphoned will be destroyed by the siphoning process. So any theft will actually result in a reduced supply. The 20% number you quoted was wrong but you completely failed to understand the concept which is much worse.


Forgive me, o mighty goonlord (Roll), but the 20% number is your number, not mine. Since I'm working with your figures, would you care to explain your nonsensical concept?

If 20% of current moongoo production figures was to be lost, then surely we'd have to have double the number of moons we have now? TEN percent is lost by siphons, so a maximum TEN percent of total production can be lost.


Are you so illiterate that you can't read the names of posters? I'm going to say yes, you are.
ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2013-11-05 19:38:44 UTC  |  Edited by: ElQuirko
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
ElQuirko wrote:
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
ElQuirko wrote:
Laserak wrote:
The most basic impact siphons will have is an increase in the price of R64 products. Hypothetically lets say everyone goes nuts dropping siphons everywhere and about 20% of current goo production is lost via siphons. Price rises- moongoo value goes up.

If we previously made say 500b per month on high value moons, a 20% increase would be a 100b cherry on top of that 500b per month. I'll take it.

Go nuts with them siphons guys Smile

(no to tears were shed in the crafting of this post)


Tears were almost certainly flooding out of the quoted person during the crafting of his post. You seem to feel that moongoo is being lost, meaning an increase in demand. No, it's just being redistributed, meaning that you're gonna take a 20% hit and everyone else is getting a 20% gain. It wouldn't be ridiculous to say that prices may go down due to attempted undercutting during firesales of moongoo.


10% of the moongoo siphoned will be destroyed by the siphoning process. So any theft will actually result in a reduced supply. The 20% number you quoted was wrong but you completely failed to understand the concept which is much worse.


Forgive me, o mighty goonlord (Roll), but the 20% number is your number, not mine. Since I'm working with your figures, would you care to explain your nonsensical concept?

If 20% of current moongoo production figures was to be lost, then surely we'd have to have double the number of moons we have now? TEN percent is lost by siphons, so a maximum TEN percent of total production can be lost.

Are you so illiterate that you can't read the names of posters? I'm going to say yes, you are.

Apparently so. Are you so lonely you get your kicks out of aggressive forum posting? I'm going to say yes, you are.

Dodixie > Hek
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#46 - 2013-11-05 19:44:57 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
Apparently so. Are you so lonely you get your kicks out of aggressive forum posting? I'm going to say yes, you are.


He's right though. You're making a complete ass of yourself here.

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#47 - 2013-11-05 19:45:47 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
ElQuirko wrote:
Laserak wrote:
The most basic impact siphons will have is an increase in the price of R64 products. Hypothetically lets say everyone goes nuts dropping siphons everywhere and about 20% of current goo production is lost via siphons. Price rises- moongoo value goes up.

If we previously made say 500b per month on high value moons, a 20% increase would be a 100b cherry on top of that 500b per month. I'll take it.

Go nuts with them siphons guys Smile

(no to tears were shed in the crafting of this post)


Tears were almost certainly flooding out of the quoted person during the crafting of his post. You seem to feel that moongoo is being lost, meaning an increase in demand. No, it's just being redistributed, meaning that you're gonna take a 20% hit and everyone else is getting a 20% gain. It wouldn't be ridiculous to say that prices may go down due to attempted undercutting during firesales of moongoo.


10% of the moongoo siphoned will be destroyed by the siphoning process. So any theft will actually result in a reduced supply. The 20% number you quoted was wrong but you completely failed to understand the concept which is much worse.


Forgive me, o mighty goonlord (Roll), but the 20% number is your number, not mine. Since I'm working with your figures, would you care to explain your nonsensical concept?

If 20% of current moongoo production figures was to be lost, then surely we'd have to have double the number of moons we have now? TEN percent is lost by siphons, so a maximum TEN percent of total production can be lost.


10% Theoretically, with perfect coverage and perfect timing... assuming that none are ever discovered until full... and further assuming that they don't already own any of the possible moons in question. The latter wouldn't be an issue, as anyone siphoning will generate loss... however we have seen examples that would indicate that siphons won't be an issue in the sections of space they own.

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ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2013-11-05 19:46:50 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
10% Theoretically, with perfect coverage and perfect timing... assuming that none are ever discovered until full... and further assuming that they don't already own any of the possible moons in question. The latter wouldn't be an issue, as anyone siphoning will generate loss... however we have seen examples that would indicate that siphons won't be an issue in the sections of space they own.

See, now this is how you explain it to the mathematically impaired.

Dodixie > Hek
Jythier Smith
BGG Wolves
#49 - 2013-11-05 19:47:28 UTC
EVE Player Makes Complete Ass of Self on Forums

Story at 11.
Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#50 - 2013-11-05 19:48:15 UTC
I'm not your special ed teacher .
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#51 - 2013-11-05 19:48:39 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:
10% Theoretically, with perfect coverage and perfect timing... assuming that none are ever discovered until full... and further assuming that they don't already own any of the possible moons in question. The latter wouldn't be an issue, as anyone siphoning will generate loss... however we have seen examples that would indicate that siphons won't be an issue in the sections of space they own.

See, now this is how you explain it to the mathematically impaired.


No really, you totally pulled out of your complete misunderstanding nose-dive without anyone noticing.

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
Lazy Eagle
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2013-11-05 19:50:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Lazy Eagle
Jythier Smith wrote:
Also, just curious here, but are the tears large, or are the null bears large?

Big bears make big tears, so, yes!

*edit: almost forgot, ~ Big smile
Laserak
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2013-11-05 20:02:11 UTC
As I said- my situation was entirely hypothetical but I base my opinion of whats gonna happen based on what people think who have been working with and analyzing these markets for years.

"So, short version? Prices rise, quite possibly very dramatically, and that's without even factoring in the effects of any future units. Needless to say, all your shiny and newly rebalanced Tech II ships are going to get more expensive."

DEUCES
Jythier Smith
BGG Wolves
#54 - 2013-11-05 20:17:11 UTC
So, buy moon-goo now?
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2013-11-05 21:05:38 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
ElQuirko wrote:
Laserak wrote:
The most basic impact siphons will have is an increase in the price of R64 products. Hypothetically lets say everyone goes nuts dropping siphons everywhere and about 20% of current goo production is lost via siphons. Price rises- moongoo value goes up.

If we previously made say 500b per month on high value moons, a 20% increase would be a 100b cherry on top of that 500b per month. I'll take it.

Go nuts with them siphons guys Smile

(no to tears were shed in the crafting of this post)


Tears were almost certainly flooding out of the quoted person during the crafting of his post. You seem to feel that moongoo is being lost, meaning an increase in demand. No, it's just being redistributed, meaning that you're gonna take a 20% hit and everyone else is getting a 20% gain. It wouldn't be ridiculous to say that prices may go down due to attempted undercutting during firesales of moongoo.


10% of the moongoo siphoned will be destroyed by the siphoning process. So any theft will actually result in a reduced supply. The 20% number you quoted was wrong but you completely failed to understand the concept which is much worse.


Forgive me, o mighty goonlord (Roll), but the 20% number is your number, not mine. Since I'm working with your figures, would you care to explain your nonsensical concept?

If 20% of current moongoo production figures was to be lost, then surely we'd have to have double the number of moons we have now? TEN percent is lost by siphons, so a maximum TEN percent of total production can be lost.


We prefer goonsire.

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PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#56 - 2013-11-05 21:16:19 UTC
I think "FAT NULL BEAR TEARS" would have been a better title.
Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#57 - 2013-11-05 21:19:15 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
?



I'm sorry.... I comprehended NONE of your post. I can't get past your name.

Are you Awox? Because your name.... I just.....
Awox is back.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#58 - 2013-11-05 21:29:48 UTC
Remember folks, anyone who is or was ever in a big nullsec is pure evil, because they're elitists. And being an elitist in a video game makes you worse than every despotic European leader in the 40's combined, you bad, bad, awful people.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#59 - 2013-11-05 21:45:51 UTC
Jythier Smith wrote:
So, buy moon-goo now?


Yes.
Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2013-11-05 22:21:04 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
What about Harry Forever


Awesome, now we will get to hear his tears supreme victory speech when he manages to steal a cyno frig 100k from a POS. Big smile

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik