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Old eve changes you want brought back.

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Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#101 - 2013-11-07 04:56:15 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Expansion with loads of content. Examples:
---castor: T2, conquerable stations, Agent Missions
---Exodus: deadspace sites, alliances, pos's, sov
---Cold War: Lvl 4's, COSMOS, freighters, dreads, NPC pirates
---Red Moon Rising: 23!!! types of new T2 ships, Carriers, Supers, Titans
---Revelations: Overheat, bombs, Lvl 5's
---Trinity: total graphic overhaul, Hics, EAFs, Blops, Marauders, Jump Freighters, Facwar
---Apocrypha: Tech 3, Wormholes, Npc AI upgrade
And all of these came with balance changes.

My God....looking at that list makes me want to cry. Compare red moon rising, trinity, or apocrypha to what we get now. What happened CCP? What happened? Cry

Look at the time line. They all occurred before WOD and DUST 514 started to suck the life out of EvE. It was back in the day where CCP used its money on EvE, not everywhere but EvE.


DUST made EVE *better*.

I guess actual real-world statistics mean nothing to you.
Even Forbes has commented on EVE's amazing success.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Frying Doom
#102 - 2013-11-07 05:03:08 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Expansion with loads of content. Examples:
---castor: T2, conquerable stations, Agent Missions
---Exodus: deadspace sites, alliances, pos's, sov
---Cold War: Lvl 4's, COSMOS, freighters, dreads, NPC pirates
---Red Moon Rising: 23!!! types of new T2 ships, Carriers, Supers, Titans
---Revelations: Overheat, bombs, Lvl 5's
---Trinity: total graphic overhaul, Hics, EAFs, Blops, Marauders, Jump Freighters, Facwar
---Apocrypha: Tech 3, Wormholes, Npc AI upgrade
And all of these came with balance changes.

My God....looking at that list makes me want to cry. Compare red moon rising, trinity, or apocrypha to what we get now. What happened CCP? What happened? Cry

Look at the time line. They all occurred before WOD and DUST 514 started to suck the life out of EvE. It was back in the day where CCP used its money on EvE, not everywhere but EvE.


DUST made EVE *better*.

I guess actual real-world statistics mean nothing to you.
Even Forbes has commented on EVE's amazing success.

Maybe you could quote some of these statistics and where Forbes says EvE is an 'amazing sucess'?

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#103 - 2013-11-07 05:08:04 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Expansion with loads of content. Examples:
---castor: T2, conquerable stations, Agent Missions
---Exodus: deadspace sites, alliances, pos's, sov
---Cold War: Lvl 4's, COSMOS, freighters, dreads, NPC pirates
---Red Moon Rising: 23!!! types of new T2 ships, Carriers, Supers, Titans
---Revelations: Overheat, bombs, Lvl 5's
---Trinity: total graphic overhaul, Hics, EAFs, Blops, Marauders, Jump Freighters, Facwar
---Apocrypha: Tech 3, Wormholes, Npc AI upgrade
And all of these came with balance changes.

My God....looking at that list makes me want to cry. Compare red moon rising, trinity, or apocrypha to what we get now. What happened CCP? What happened? Cry

Look at the time line. They all occurred before WOD and DUST 514 started to suck the life out of EvE. It was back in the day where CCP used its money on EvE, not everywhere but EvE.


DUST made EVE *better*.

I guess actual real-world statistics mean nothing to you.
Even Forbes has commented on EVE's amazing success.

Maybe you could quote some of these statistics and where Forbes says EvE is an 'amazing sucess'?


Take off your tinfoil hat and use Google, dude.
You're willing to spew all sorts of asspull BS on here, but you never show anything to back up the crap you say.

Not sure if epic troll or actually believes CCP is the Boogie Man...

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Frying Doom
#104 - 2013-11-07 05:09:20 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:


Take off your tinfoil hat and use Google, dude.
You're willing to spew all sorts of asspull BS on here, but you never show anything to back up the crap you say.

Not sure if epic troll or actually believes CCP is the Boogie Man...

Quotes please. as you seem to be the one with the BS.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#105 - 2013-11-07 05:12:12 UTC
Expo-freaking-nential growth in subscribed accounts, despite still having a monthly fee system.

World of Warcrack.... the MMO they said would never die, has lost almost 1/4 of its playerbase, this year.
Other MMO's are scaling back to F2P and microtransactions.... EVE is thriving better than ever.

CCP's finances are a matter of public record, too. If you were willing to put any effort into doing actual research, you could see that EVE is most assuredly NOT dying. There *will* be a 20th anniversary for this game. Accept it.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#106 - 2013-11-07 05:13:37 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:


Take off your tinfoil hat and use Google, dude.
You're willing to spew all sorts of asspull BS on here, but you never show anything to back up the crap you say.

Not sure if epic troll or actually believes CCP is the Boogie Man...

Quotes please. as you seem to be the one with the BS.


Do the work yourself. Unless you just don't want to see proof that you're talking out your 4th point of contact. Which is probably the case.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Frying Doom
#107 - 2013-11-07 05:19:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Frying Doom
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Expo-freaking-nential growth in subscribed accounts, despite still having a monthly fee system.

World of Warcrack.... the MMO they said would never die, has lost almost 1/4 of its playerbase, this year.
Other MMO's are scaling back to F2P and microtransactions.... EVE is thriving better than ever.

CCP's finances are a matter of public record, too. If you were willing to put any effort into doing actual research, you could see that EVE is most assuredly NOT dying. There *will* be a 20th anniversary for this game. Accept it.

Yes EvEs finances.

So explain this as you have no quotes apparently, as I could not find Forbes saying EvE was an 'amazing sucess'.

Why are we getting the smallest expansion ever when CCP has increased its development budget by 50%, up to 12 million for a 6 month period?

As to WoW yes it has lost 5 times more subscribers than EvE has while still retaining 15 times as many players as EvE does.

EvEs numbers have not grown, even the PCU is this june only managed to get back to where it was pre-Incarna.

Yes EvE will probably live for 20 more years. That does not mean it will be given any quality of life.Lol

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers
Get Off My Lawn
#108 - 2013-11-07 05:23:02 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Expo-freaking-nential growth in subscribed accounts, despite still having a monthly fee system.

World of Warcrack.... the MMO they said would never die, has lost almost 1/4 of its playerbase, this year.
Other MMO's are scaling back to F2P and microtransactions.... EVE is thriving better than ever.

CCP's finances are a matter of public record, too. If you were willing to put any effort into doing actual research, you could see that EVE is most assuredly NOT dying. There *will* be a 20th anniversary for this game. Accept it.

Yes EvEs finances.

So explain this as you have no quotes apparently, as I could not find Forbes saying EvE was an 'amazing sucess'.

Why are we getting the smallest expansion ever when CCP has increased its development budget by 50%, up to 12 million for a 6 month period?

As to WoW yes it has lost 5 times more subscribers than EvE has while still retaining 15 times as many players as EvE does.

EvEs numbers have not grown, even the PCU is this june only managed to get back to where it was pre-Incarna.

Yes EvE will probably live for 20 more years. That does not mean it will be given any quality of life.Lol



Your counterpoints are as thin and weak as you, my friend.

Throwing a wall-o-text at me doesn't magically make you right. It just makes you loud and obnoxious.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Frying Doom
#109 - 2013-11-07 05:30:23 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Expo-freaking-nential growth in subscribed accounts, despite still having a monthly fee system.

World of Warcrack.... the MMO they said would never die, has lost almost 1/4 of its playerbase, this year.
Other MMO's are scaling back to F2P and microtransactions.... EVE is thriving better than ever.

CCP's finances are a matter of public record, too. If you were willing to put any effort into doing actual research, you could see that EVE is most assuredly NOT dying. There *will* be a 20th anniversary for this game. Accept it.

Yes EvEs finances.

So explain this as you have no quotes apparently, as I could not find Forbes saying EvE was an 'amazing sucess'.

Why are we getting the smallest expansion ever when CCP has increased its development budget by 50%, up to 12 million for a 6 month period?

As to WoW yes it has lost 5 times more subscribers than EvE has while still retaining 15 times as many players as EvE does.

EvEs numbers have not grown, even the PCU is this june only managed to get back to where it was pre-Incarna.

Yes EvE will probably live for 20 more years. That does not mean it will be given any quality of life.Lol



Your counterpoints are as thin and weak as you, my friend.

Throwing a wall-o-text at me doesn't magically make you right. It just makes you loud and obnoxious.

Your inability to show any links or actual proof just makes you look like a joke.

Oh and counter points would assume you have said something valid....You haven't.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Daishi Kurita
Perkone
Caldari State
#110 - 2013-11-07 05:47:57 UTC
Black Screens when there is a large fleet fight. Death to TIDI.

Seriously.
grrlet
Leper Outcast Unclean
#111 - 2013-11-07 06:31:51 UTC
Yellow Barges/Exhumers
Smiley on the Ishtar
Jukebox
(future) Old command ship models.

PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#112 - 2013-11-07 06:39:09 UTC  |  Edited by: PotatoOverdose
Jarod Garamonde wrote:


DUST made EVE *better*.

I guess actual real-world statistics mean nothing to you.
Even Forbes has commented on EVE's amazing success.

When you make a claim, the burden of proof is on you, so provide a source for your "statistics." Also, Forbes sells blog space to anyone that can pay $5.
Prince Kobol
#113 - 2013-11-07 07:45:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Prince Kobol
I just look at this

http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

This tells the whole story.

Now if you can look at that graph and say Eve is just doing fine and has not stagnated over the last few years there is something very wrong with you.

The 2 highest peaks on the all time weekly graph.

06-01-2011 Weekly Average 36430

06-06-2013 Weekly Average 36252

You also have to take into account that the weekly average for 2013 will also include Dust Accounts where as 2011 doesn't as Dust hadn't been released.

So we still haven't quite reached 2011 levels and that is including the few thousand dust bunnies.

So yeah.. Eve is growing Roll
Yummy Chocolate
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#114 - 2013-11-07 07:56:51 UTC
destiny2 wrote:
drone poo


why do I get a mental image of a monkey shitfight? Shocked

anyway,

boundless creation tech 2 ship(wolf/sleip/muninn) dark red tiger paintjob

non-poopy duvolle labs tech 2 ship(deimos/astarte) paintjob

turret points on the middle of the wolf/jaguar

pink phobos ♥

and ofc rifter being win.

Frostys Virpio > CCP: Continously Crying Playerbase

Felicity Love >... was thinking "moar popcorn"... but now, seeing the truly awesome contribution this thread is going to make to the Greater Glory Of EVE.... imagonnamakkadapizza....

Chinwe Rhei
Syn Interstellar
#115 - 2013-11-07 09:42:32 UTC
I want tiers back. And less ship role specialization especially among tier 1.

Everyone can fly any ship in the game. It's ok for there to be weaker ships and better ships, cheaper ships and expensive ships of the same size. Sometimes you bought something because it was cheaper or easier to manufacture locally, imagine that. Sometime you bought something so that you get underestimated and attacked. Sometimes you just wanted to mine in a battleship.
That's called a sandbox.

Yes there should be a general balance in the sense that no ship should be completely useless and no ship should completely dominate and all factions should have something unique of their own to attract you, but at the end of the day having essentially the same ship repeated in 3 sizes and 4 empire models because anything actually creative would be hard to balance in some basic rock-paper-scissors model is just boring.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#116 - 2013-11-07 09:56:26 UTC
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
Jarod Garamonde wrote:
Frying Doom wrote:
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Expansion with loads of content. Examples:
---castor: T2, conquerable stations, Agent Missions
---Exodus: deadspace sites, alliances, pos's, sov
---Cold War: Lvl 4's, COSMOS, freighters, dreads, NPC pirates
---Red Moon Rising: 23!!! types of new T2 ships, Carriers, Supers, Titans
---Revelations: Overheat, bombs, Lvl 5's
---Trinity: total graphic overhaul, Hics, EAFs, Blops, Marauders, Jump Freighters, Facwar
---Apocrypha: Tech 3, Wormholes, Npc AI upgrade
And all of these came with balance changes.

My God....looking at that list makes me want to cry. Compare red moon rising, trinity, or apocrypha to what we get now. What happened CCP? What happened? Cry

Look at the time line. They all occurred before WOD and DUST 514 started to suck the life out of EvE. It was back in the day where CCP used its money on EvE, not everywhere but EvE.


DUST made EVE *better*.

I guess actual real-world statistics mean nothing to you.
Even Forbes has commented on EVE's amazing success.

Maybe you could quote some of these statistics and where Forbes says EvE is an 'amazing sucess'?


Take off your tinfoil hat and use Google, dude.
You're willing to spew all sorts of asspull BS on here, but you never show anything to back up the crap you say.

Not sure if epic troll or actually believes CCP is the Boogie Man...
Jarod, i don't remember you as a hypocrit.
You claim he never backs up his crap... well, you're now doing the same.
Doesn't matter if it's easy to find or not, really...

I understand it's pissing you off when people just claim BS to be true and thus you're annoyed
about the fact that you should do things others don't... but look at it for a minute.

You're turning into those you don't like.

This was an actually friendly meant post.
dethleffs
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#117 - 2013-11-07 10:00:25 UTC
gasmasks
Garia666
CyberShield Inc
HYDRA RELOADED
#118 - 2013-11-07 10:14:43 UTC
in would like to see the old group of ccp employees back who started this game.
at that time they where pasionate about the game being close to the community.

last 5 years its only about the money. how can we get more money ou tof these suckers. specialy **** like AUR. (multiple character trainig) ect ect .. the company has become to big and lost its ways.

the feeling i had when palying eve in the early days i now have with starcitizen. new and fresh and passionate, and realy listening to the community. time will tell if they have the same faith as eve had.. but its very prommising to say atleast..