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Goons revolutionize WH PvP?

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Winthorp
#41 - 2013-11-05 09:04:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Winthorp
Chiimera wrote:
fido goran wrote:
To be honest I'm surprised goons can find their way through a wormhole chain without a bridge network, wasn't aware the swarm mentality had evolved that far yet


I won't lie and say its easy but using our experience from owning half of nullsec and running a vast logistics network we have been able to piece together (thanks to eve university) a pretty good idea of how wormholes work and are really excited to be an active contributor to the wormhole space community.


I will never complain about more targets coming to WH's but you will have to leave your COAD poastings at the door.
Marexlovox
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2013-11-05 09:27:12 UTC
People still do stuff in wormholes? Thought they were just gateways for nullbears to get to empire.Pirate
Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#43 - 2013-11-05 11:40:10 UTC
Too bad that when you see one of those gateways with an active forcefield, you turn your little cargo ships around.

Bob Artis, you will be missed.

O7
Royal Jedi
V0LTA
OnlyFleets.
#44 - 2013-11-05 12:08:22 UTC
Did anyone from w-space who really cares about this, actually take the initiative to post a thread in the features and ideas forum like this Goon guy?

Maybe I missed it?
Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#45 - 2013-11-05 12:19:30 UTC
Did it once. Never got a reply from anyone f@ck that forum.

Bob Artis, you will be missed.

O7
Malception
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2013-11-05 12:39:18 UTC
Chiimera wrote:
All of us wormholers have to stick together and work for the things we want. I am just doing what I can for our amazing wormhole community.

Wow. campaigning already?
Key Dett
West Indies Squadron
#47 - 2013-11-05 12:53:46 UTC
Thomas Hurt wrote:
Bernie Nator wrote:
Thomas Hurt wrote:
Wormholes are notorious for having little done with them for years. Then in the span of one well-thought out thread, the Goons air a suggestion and have it considered and implemented by the devs. It is extremely sad to me, as a wormholer, that Nullbear knuckleheads & trolls have done so much more for wormholes in this coming patch than us Elite PvP Holelivers. Oops

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=284723

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=292294

Aren't you the same guy who batphoned goons awhile ago go to do some elite which PvP?


HELL no. They invaded my wormhole and stole my kill, and told me my ugly-ass Proteus "wasn't even worth shooting" . They then scrammed me and bumped me with their ships for 30 minutes while I yelled "stop it!" in local. Cry




I see why you consider yourself elite pvp.
Bernie Nator
Seal Club Six
Plug N Play
#48 - 2013-11-05 13:01:18 UTC
Chiimera wrote:
fido goran wrote:
To be honest I'm surprised goons can find their way through a wormhole chain without a bridge network, wasn't aware the swarm mentality had evolved that far yet


I won't lie and say its easy but using our experience from owning half of nullsec and running a vast logistics network we have been able to piece together (thanks to eve university) a pretty good idea of how wormholes work and are really excited to be an active contributor to the wormhole space community.

You say these things, but I honestly can't say I've seen you post on the wormhole forums until a thread where a "former" goon pipes up to support you. Youll have to forgive me for not jumping on the "THANKS GOONS!" mentality you seem to be promoting, mostly because these are things that wormholers have been talking about since they initially told us that the SMA no longer dropped ships.

Just my observation on the issue.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2013-11-05 14:19:18 UTC
Chiimera wrote:
As others did, I made a thread,


...about a month and a half too late to make a difference, since the proposed changes in your thread had already be slated to be implemented by the CSM summer summit in August.
Chiimera
State War Academy
Caldari State
#50 - 2013-11-05 14:30:02 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Chiimera wrote:
As others did, I made a thread,


...about a month and a half too late to make a difference, since the proposed changes in your thread had already be slated to be implemented by the CSM summer summit in August.


Now if only I could find the minutes... I spent half an hour trying to find them :(
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2013-11-05 14:57:45 UTC
Chiimera wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Chiimera wrote:
As others did, I made a thread,


...about a month and a half too late to make a difference, since the proposed changes in your thread had already be slated to be implemented by the CSM summer summit in August.


Now if only I could find the minutes... I spent half an hour trying to find them :(


And I'm sure once you find them, you will be back to amend your statements...

Personally I find the article from James to be enough (unless you are insinuating he is somehow lying in that article) along with CCP Fozzie's CSM acknowledgement in the announcement post.

It's a darn shame Fozzie didn't also thank you for your instrumental thread on the subject Roll
Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#52 - 2013-11-05 17:44:23 UTC
The problem here is that you have a goon tag, with all the null bs that it stands for. Maybe you came here with the best intentions and we are giving you sh!t for it.

Bob Artis, you will be missed.

O7
chris elliot
Treasury Department
Plug N Play
#53 - 2013-11-05 17:49:09 UTC
*pokes head in doorway*

I heard they were giving away free popcorn over here. Is this the right place?
Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#54 - 2013-11-05 18:06:08 UTC
Bring alfajores

Bob Artis, you will be missed.

O7
Proclus Diadochu
Mar Sarrim
Red Coat Conspiracy
#55 - 2013-11-05 18:07:03 UTC
Thanks, grr goons. We would have never said anything about SMA's if you didn't point it out!



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James Arget
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
#56 - 2013-11-05 18:40:09 UTC
Damn it people, now I'm going to have to come make a serious post because everyone is bitching again.

The community got this changed pushed through; that's who deserves the credit. This has been an outstanding issue, and it was because I had multiple forum posts, evemails, and other outside media to link to that the CSM was able to push this issue to the attention of CCP. I didn't tell CCP Seagull that my corp wasn't able to have fun anymore, I told her that there was broad and overwhelming support for this functionality to be reinstated because it was a great loss, foremost for the wormhole community.

My nice little "yeah, no" was mostly in reference to "Goons revolutionize WH PvP" because that simply is not true. Goons contributed to the base of support on which the CSM was able to request this change. So, in the end, no one person or group gets credit, but we all get participation awards.

On to the next one.

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Thomas Hurt
Future Ventures
#57 - 2013-11-05 18:49:53 UTC
James Arget wrote:
Damn it people, now I'm going to have to come make a serious post because everyone is bitching again.

The community got this changed pushed through; that's who deserves the credit. This has been an outstanding issue, and it was because I had multiple forum posts, evemails, and other outside media to link to that the CSM was able to push this issue to the attention of CCP. I didn't tell CCP Seagull that my corp wasn't able to have fun anymore, I told her that there was broad and overwhelming support for this functionality to be reinstated because it was a great loss, foremost for the wormhole community.

My nice little "yeah, no" was mostly in reference to "Goons revolutionize WH PvP" because that simply is not true. Goons contributed to the base of support on which the CSM was able to request this change. So, in the end, no one person or group gets credit, but we all get participation awards.

On to the next one.


^Basically this. Goons may have provided the bulk of the support behind this change and the final impetus towards it's implementation, but it is important to remember that this may not have happened without the continuous low-level whitenoise droning & complaining of the community at large.
Winthorp
#58 - 2013-11-05 19:32:12 UTC
Thomas Hurt wrote:
^Basically this. Goons may have provided the bulk of the support behind this change and the final impetus towards it's implementation, but it is important to remember that this may not have happened without the continuous low-level whitenoise droning & complaining of the community at large.


This sort of bullshit propaganda is why you and your other chimera alt will never get us.
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#59 - 2013-11-05 19:35:40 UTC
Thomas Hurt wrote:
It is extremely sad to me, as a wormholer, that Nullbear knuckleheads & trolls have done so much more for wormholes in this coming patch than us Elite PvP Holelivers. Oops


The worst type of player in EVE is the one who is oblivious to the fact that he is terrible... aka you.

Not today spaghetti.
Sith1s Spectre
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#60 - 2013-11-05 20:06:30 UTC
Thomas Hurt wrote:
James Arget wrote:
Damn it people, now I'm going to have to come make a serious post because everyone is bitching again.

The community got this changed pushed through; that's who deserves the credit. This has been an outstanding issue, and it was because I had multiple forum posts, evemails, and other outside media to link to that the CSM was able to push this issue to the attention of CCP. I didn't tell CCP Seagull that my corp wasn't able to have fun anymore, I told her that there was broad and overwhelming support for this functionality to be reinstated because it was a great loss, foremost for the wormhole community.

My nice little "yeah, no" was mostly in reference to "Goons revolutionize WH PvP" because that simply is not true. Goons contributed to the base of support on which the CSM was able to request this change. So, in the end, no one person or group gets credit, but we all get participation awards.

On to the next one.


^Basically this. Goons may have provided the bulk of the support behind this change and the final impetus towards it's implementation, but it is important to remember that this may not have happened without the continuous low-level whitenoise droning & complaining of the community at large.


Let me just sumarise this thread.

1. We get loot pinatas back with the new patch (SMAs now dropping ships)
2. This is due to the hard work of our CSM reps and the overwhelming support of the Eve community
3. Thomas has managed to **** off the majority of the WH community and will probably be the 1st to see the patch in full effect

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