Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Not you, the OP.

He was all upset about how a miner needed a 50% chance to survive a gank from 3-4 catalysts. I present numbers which show it can suck up 9 or more....and he's went all quiet and continued to cry about how terribly unfair it is that people wont play the game his way edit: or perhaps more fairly - upset that people play the game their way.


Edit: I'm old enough to remember the olden days when some people mined in Rokhs. Still possible, and created a 'mining' boat with 222k EHP (55/45 split of thermal/kinetic DPS), 8 miner II and 2 MLU II. 300k if you heat the hardeners.

You want to mine and laugh at catalysts? There you go.

I had 3 guys that have been playing the game less than you in fleet most of the night. They aren't planning on unsubbing anytime soon... 3:1 odds on happy newbies.
Tell you what why don't you check out our training Corp meatshield bastards. Join us on a roam sometime and learn how easy and fun it is to shoot things other than little red crosses.
Recruitment channel is 'dbastards'

I approve of this message. This corp is ace and yes I am one of the new players he spoke of.

I'm sooooooo going to violence some miners tonight. Just because /thread.

But you are referring to them as little kids all the same, obviously an attempt at being derogatory. Be careful not to look like what you are suggesting...


You need to look at it from all sides, for us that was a profitable training exercise.
What bad work would you have us do?
Would you limit our game play in favour of yours?
And as the majority of my losses are offset against the loot and profit made from killing other ships, and from the ransoms we often extract from our victims, I would consider myself to be a professional pirate rather than a PVP'er.


Your standings mean nothing to me I'm an outlaw. Not being able to dock in highsec would mean little to me, we can still fly 2 jumps from lowsec in our ships to kill you.

Again you wish to limit our game time in favour of your own? Why should a pod be any different from killing a ship in highsec, after all, both are replaceable.

Are you saying you've been told previously how to avoid being ganked but haven't listened or learned?

Did someone tell you that highsec was safe? EVE is closest to real world punishment mechanics, we are punished after the event, not prevented from doing it.
You chose not to look at the people in local, you didn't see the 10+ guys with -10 security status, we had been in that system for several hours by the time you picked up your mission next door, and came into the system with us.
Did being in a 0.6 system mean anything to you, other than the fact that the NPC rats have higher bounties than the safer 1.0 systems?
And we know that you obviously paid no attention to the combat probes in space around your ship.

If you are still unsure how to prevent being ganked feel free to convo me and I will happily give you advice regarding your fitting and your playstyle to avoid trouble with pirates.

I did answer most questions besides i can`t answer 20 people all repeating the same thing separately.

If you did not get a personal answer it is because i felt it was answered before.

You dodge most of the stuff you don`t like and only repeat what another Suicide Gankers before you said so usually there is nothing new to answer to, just he same question asked in a different manner.

ganking as an activity begins when group of players gathers with an intention of .. well... "ganking". To answer that question one should know what gankers have to do to minimize their risks and maximize profits. If they prepared system before actual killing that miner - that means that ganking as activity in that system began at least 15 min before an actual kill plus time to scan belts for possible targets. Player landing 3km near you is just gathering intel on possible targets and if that miner had decent fit - they will probably go to another belt/target, otherwise he acts as wapr-in point for the rest of gank. So answer is 0 (or even -1 if you take untanked miner as 0) - ganking began some time before that miner even undocked.

Same for gate camp - they wont shoot just anybody. they will wait for intel from their scanner that checks ships some jumps away from staging system.

Show me a cheap way to take out a 300k EHP rokh please.

Dude... stop saying crap here. When was the last time someone did missions in a buffer fit Rokh, or in a Rokh for that matter.

Golem, CNR, Paladin, Vargur have about 60k EHP with omni tanking.(with 3 invul/eanm) That`s the REAL EHP a Mission Ship has with a Mission Fit, not some bait fit designed to get as much EHP as possible.

And i can show you several cheap ways to take them out.

Had you read my post, you'd see it was in reply to a mining fit and yes, people used to mine in those.

Furthermore you singularly failed to address the 125k mining boat.


And finally, just because people "dont" doesn't mean they cant. That you make a choice to leave yourself open to other peoples actions is your choice. You exercise the choice to not defend yourself to the maximum possible degree in the aim of efficiency. That is your choice, I suggest you start to learn to live with the consequences of your choices.