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Somer Blink - Asked to stop but have got worse!

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Kendra Flux
Wavestar Business Ventures Inc.
#141 - 2013-11-01 16:11:41 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
Argus Sorn wrote:
https://twitter.com/somersetmahm/status/396090063248818176

If it is true, this makes me sick. Genuinely sick.


Sometimes tweets are made to disappear, like stoolies who talked too much. Just in case, I took down the testimony.

http://i.imgur.com/qoGGwEE.png



Well, I am a chick wih red hair but that is not enough for special favors it appears.

TIme to resculpture the boobs I guess.RollShockedWhat?
YesYes NoNoNo
Karmic Rebalance
#142 - 2013-11-01 16:13:08 UTC  |  Edited by: YesYes NoNoNo
TigerXtrm wrote:
Argus Sorn wrote:
https://twitter.com/somersetmahm/status/396090063248818176

If it is true, this makes me sick. Genuinely sick.


Seriously? Because they Skyped with someone from CCP? Surely you're joking?

Are you going to wildly vomit when I tell you that the organisers of EVE Vegas probably also had direct contact with some of the devs? Or... OH NO! The Mittani! For his role on the CSM and because he was asked as a speaker on EVE Vegas...

Christ the feeling of entitlement is so big around this place it's blocking out the sun at this point. If you do special things in EVE (good or bad in your own opinion) you get special treatment. Bloggers get FREE (yes free, as in no money involved, SHOCKING!) media accounts. Are you going to vomit over that as well because not everyone has that privilege?

All in all it's very similar to this thing you might know, called life. Life is not fair and neither is EVE, both in and outside of the game. Don't like it? Do something about it.

P.S. Whining on a forum does not constitute 'doing something'.


[16:10:04] TigerXtrm > Aaaaaah. Why do people whine so much! First it was the ISK, then it was the prizes, then it was the GTC money and now people are actually genuinly raging over the fact that Somerset has Skyped with a CCP employee >_<!!!!!
[16:10:26] Venirious > only person a see raging is you
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#143 - 2013-11-01 16:13:19 UTC
MetaMorpheus Jones wrote:
Lucas Kell wrote:



Honestly, a lot of us would happily RMT our stuff if it was legal. So CCP had a decision to make. enforce the rule against this form of RMT or allow us all to do it. They chose to enforce their rules. So that's that.

By the way, are you a Somer shill or a butthurt Somer user?



Read the EULA, Genius. It isn't your stuff. It never was your stuff.

As for SomerBLINK, however screwed up the arrangement became, in the end, I believe CCP saw SomerBLINK GTC sales as another way to get and keep players in the game, another way to promote Eve Online. Was it haphazard and ill-thought out? yea, a lot of it was. And in the end, CCP changed their policy. End of story.

But my god, users of this forum want this to be fricken' Watergate. Give me a break.

As for being a Somer shill, I've never played SB, I've never bought GTC or anything else from them, and I generally consider gambling as a way to part fools from their money (or ISK, as the case may be.) I could care less if they vanished into thin air. I'm just bloody tired of the bitching and moaning, the tin-foil hattery, the absurd accusations and ideations of conspiracy and back-room deals.

Could CCP have handles this better? yea, probably. Could the community have reacted with a little more maturity and a little less self-entitlement? Judging by this and nearly ever other issue facing Eve players, probably not. That such a thing is true doesn't make it any less pathetic.
It's only pathetic to you because you don't care about the matter. I in fact do care, because I like EVE and dislike people breaking the rules and taking the ****. Look at the reaction of Somer and the **** they are spewing in their in game channel, and it's clear they are not a good community site. Thankfully, because they are all about the dollar, come the 7th, they will be looking to do a final cash out and we can be done with them.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#144 - 2013-11-01 16:18:30 UTC
MetaMorpheus Jones wrote:

Read the EULA, Genius. It isn't your stuff. It never was your stuff.

As for SomerBLINK, however screwed up the arrangement became, in the end, I believe CCP saw SomerBLINK GTC sales as another way to get and keep players in the game, another way to promote Eve Online. Was it haphazard and ill-thought out? yea, a lot of it was. And in the end, CCP changed their policy. End of story.

But my god, users of this forum want this to be fricken' Watergate. Give me a break.

As for being a Somer shill, I've never played SB, I've never bought GTC or anything else from them, and I generally consider gambling as a way to part fools from their money (or ISK, as the case may be.) I could care less if they vanished into thin air. I'm just bloody tired of the bitching and moaning, the tin-foil hattery, the absurd accusations and ideations of conspiracy and back-room deals.

Could CCP have handles this better? yea, probably. Could the community have reacted with a little more maturity and a little less self-entitlement? Judging by this and nearly ever other issue facing Eve players, probably not. That such a thing is true doesn't make it any less pathetic.


I don't think it got that out of control until CCP CCP'ed. By that I mean they send in someone (CCP Guard) waving a white flag and fielding questions when he has no real idea about the particulars of the situation. Its like CCP always assumes that the forums are just spamming bullsh!t and try to silence the minority by placation.

After all the crap that this player base has put up with from CCP you would think they would do a little research before discussing issues that come up instead of just thinking a few blue posts from someone out in left field will do the trick.

Not today spaghetti.
Kendra Flux
Wavestar Business Ventures Inc.
#145 - 2013-11-01 16:22:15 UTC
Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:


Really? They just lost one account over it -- one who told them exactly why in the cancellation form, too. I cancelled my other account just now. This one will be cancelled shortly. I've been thinking about doing it and sitting on the fence but I've made my mind up.

And no, no one can have my stuff. It will rot away.




I am on your side hun.

I am going to stay for at least the release of Rubicon since it is supposed to usher in a new phase of player control according to CCP's word at fanfest and on the site.

In view of the fact that you now know you can trust a sister in the struggle I would be glad to hold a portion of your stuff in escorw for you. Not much maybe 800 million in isk and another 500 million is ships, BPO's and any other goodies laying around.

PM in game and lets get this rolling.
Gavinvin1337
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#146 - 2013-11-01 16:22:19 UTC
Somer is just making a sensible business decision. They see that their main source of incoming customers is going to close down, so they are trying to get a large influx of customers in now, while they come up with a new way to attract people. Its a sensible business decision for a in game organisation to do, it just happens that this also makes them some dollahs.
Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#147 - 2013-11-01 16:25:27 UTC
Gavinvin1337 wrote:
Somer is just making a sensible business decision. They see that their main source of incoming customers is going to close down, so they are trying to get a large influx of customers in now, while they come up with a new way to attract people. Its a sensible business decision for a in game organisation to do, it just happens that this also makes them some dollahs.


It's also probably the least-sensible business decision CCP could possibly make. Short-term gain for long-term rot.

Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages.
MetaMorpheus Jones
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#148 - 2013-11-01 16:25:40 UTC
Sexy Cakes wrote:


Its like CCP always assumes that the forums are just spamming bullsh!t and try to silence the minority by placation.




Roll

And where on earth could they possibly have gotten such an idea from?

The vast majority of the forums, in particular GD, is just spamming bullsh!t. People whining about the game and/or the players, and trolls trolling them. Maybe one thread in 20 is actually worth a read.

That monocle looks ridiculous. 
Maaaaowm Ogeko
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#149 - 2013-11-01 16:27:07 UTC
Kendra Flux wrote:
Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:


Really? They just lost one account over it -- one who told them exactly why in the cancellation form, too. I cancelled my other account just now. This one will be cancelled shortly. I've been thinking about doing it and sitting on the fence but I've made my mind up.

And no, no one can have my stuff. It will rot away.




I am on your side hun.

I am going to stay for at least the release of Rubicon since it is supposed to usher in a new phase of player control according to CCP's word at fanfest and on the site.

In view of the fact that you now know you can trust a sister in the struggle I would be glad to hold a portion of your stuff in escorw for you. Not much maybe 800 million in isk and another 500 million is ships, BPO's and any other goodies laying around.

PM in game and lets get this rolling.



See, now this is the way to ask for someone's stuff. Classy, this. Still, this answer is "no". I am sorry.

My sub doesn't end until the end of January so Ima gonna be around for Rubicon as well.
Leigh Akiga
Kuhri Innovations
#150 - 2013-11-01 16:30:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Leigh Akiga
TigerXtrm wrote:
Seriously? Because they Skyped with someone from CCP? Surely you're joking?

Are you going to wildly vomit when I tell you that the organisers of EVE Vegas probably also had direct contact with some of the devs?


Except that EVE Vegas is an event for the community, by the community where the organizer puts up a lot of his own personal money to get things rolling and doesnt make a dime from it.

Whereas Somer blink is about about making real life money through the eve online client and a website.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#151 - 2013-11-01 16:31:11 UTC
Argus Sorn wrote:
https://twitter.com/somersetmahm/status/396090063248818176

If it is true, this makes me sick. Genuinely sick.


1) There is nothing wrong with Somer talking with CCP over Skype.
2) If what "makes you sick" is that nobody is getting banned, it'd be ridiculous of CCP to hand out bans for something they previously had a permissive attitude towards.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#152 - 2013-11-01 16:33:29 UTC
Andski wrote:
it'd be ridiculous of CCP to hand out bans for something they previously had a permissive attitude towards.


Good one, that really cracked me up XD

Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#153 - 2013-11-01 16:34:45 UTC
MetaMorpheus Jones wrote:
Sexy Cakes wrote:


Its like CCP always assumes that the forums are just spamming bullsh!t and try to silence the minority by placation.
And where on earth could they possibly have gotten such an idea from?

The vast majority of the forums, in particular GD, is just spamming bullsh!t. People whining about the game and/or the players, and trolls trolling them. Maybe one thread in 20 is actually worth a read.
Again though, your opinion. I see a lot of threads with legitimate concerns that could easily be answered by a CCP rep and settled without issue. But they chose to ignore them, then the trolls get on board and start telling people they are "self-entitled" and "whiners", and "pussies" and saying they are spwewing crap. That's when things take a turn for the worse.

Come to think of it, these words... I've seen them before recently.
Oh yeah: Here
Written by... oh right yeah, it was written by you.

The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.

Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Gavinvin1337
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#154 - 2013-11-01 16:35:48 UTC
mechtech wrote:
1B isk bonus?!

OK, I never got involved in the debate before, but 1B isk per card bought is definitely RMT level.

Extremely disrespectful from Somer.


You realise they aren't handing you isk? Its somer credit, there is no way to directly turn that somer isk into in game isk.

You have to gamble it on the lotteries, you could easily come out with nothing.

People rage so much about nothing.
Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#155 - 2013-11-01 16:38:43 UTC
Gavinvin1337 wrote:
mechtech wrote:
1B isk bonus?!

OK, I never got involved in the debate before, but 1B isk per card bought is definitely RMT level.

Extremely disrespectful from Somer.


You realise they aren't handing you isk? Its somer credit, there is no way to directly turn that somer isk into in game isk.

You have to gamble it on the lotteries, you could easily come out with nothing.

People rage so much about nothing.

You can directly turn them into ingame ISK with a 20% loss. Just start a blink and buy all the tickets.

RATE LIKE SUBSCRIBE
oOReikaOo Michiko
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#156 - 2013-11-01 16:41:03 UTC
Baali Tekitsu wrote:
Gavinvin1337 wrote:
mechtech wrote:
1B isk bonus?!

OK, I never got involved in the debate before, but 1B isk per card bought is definitely RMT level.

Extremely disrespectful from Somer.


You realise they aren't handing you isk? Its somer credit, there is no way to directly turn that somer isk into in game isk.

You have to gamble it on the lotteries, you could easily come out with nothing.

People rage so much about nothing.

You can directly turn them into ingame ISK with a 20% loss. Just start a blink and buy all the tickets.


Actually its harder then it sounds, in order to do that u have to buy out an entire item, and by the time u click to put it as a blink ,10 people have joined that blink... so its still luck ... i only made out with half

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfSDNPFCPfY
Atlantis Fuanan
Wormhole Research Inc.
#157 - 2013-11-01 16:42:27 UTC
Well, i guess it's time for everyone to dance on CCP's Nose... you can even do it 10 days without, after that it probably would be boring anyways....

CCP, call the banhammer on Somer instantly.

[u]Things that would make EVE better:[/u] NRDS - Remove Local - Balance Cloak - Sov-Mechanic Changes - Less QQ
Rekkr Nordgard
Steelforge Heavy Industries
#158 - 2013-11-01 16:47:16 UTC
Andski wrote:
Argus Sorn wrote:
https://twitter.com/somersetmahm/status/396090063248818176

If it is true, this makes me sick. Genuinely sick.


1) There is nothing wrong with Somer talking with CCP over Skype.
2) If what "makes you sick" is that nobody is getting banned, it'd be ridiculous of CCP to hand out bans for something they previously had a permissive attitude towards.


It is sickening because we, the playerbase, have gotten the wall of silence throughout this entire affair from CCP, while Somer appears to just be able to call-up CCP whenever he wants to and be all chummy. Keeping in mind that CCP's blatant favoritism towards Somer is what get this whole thing kicked off in the first place.
Gavinvin1337
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#159 - 2013-11-01 16:53:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Gavinvin1337
Rekkr Nordgard wrote:
Andski wrote:
Argus Sorn wrote:
https://twitter.com/somersetmahm/status/396090063248818176

If it is true, this makes me sick. Genuinely sick.


1) There is nothing wrong with Somer talking with CCP over Skype.
2) If what "makes you sick" is that nobody is getting banned, it'd be ridiculous of CCP to hand out bans for something they previously had a permissive attitude towards.


It is sickening because we, the playerbase, have gotten the wall of silence throughout this entire affair from CCP, while Somer appears to just be able to call-up CCP whenever he wants to and be all chummy. Keeping in mind that CCP's blatant favoritism towards Somer is what get this whole thing kicked off in the first place.


So if CCP decided to ban everyone that buys PLEX using isk cause they decide that everyone must spend real money, then you would be cool with that?

Nothing like banning people for stuff they have been told is allowed.
MetaMorpheus Jones
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#160 - 2013-11-01 16:54:51 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
MetaMorpheus Jones wrote:
Sexy Cakes wrote:


Its like CCP always assumes that the forums are just spamming bullsh!t and try to silence the minority by placation.
And where on earth could they possibly have gotten such an idea from?

The vast majority of the forums, in particular GD, is just spamming bullsh!t. People whining about the game and/or the players, and trolls trolling them. Maybe one thread in 20 is actually worth a read.
Again though, your opinion. I see a lot of threads with legitimate concerns that could easily be answered by a CCP rep and settled without issue. But they chose to ignore them, then the trolls get on board and start telling people they are "self-entitled" and "whiners", and "pussies" and saying they are spwewing crap. That's when things take a turn for the worse.

Come to think of it, these words... I've seen them before recently.
Oh yeah: Here
Written by... oh right yeah, it was written by you.



If the shoe fits, babycakes . . .

This subject took a turn for the worse long, long before I commented on them. The fact is that players of your ilk have been crying and whining about "unfair" and "favoritism" and all sorts of nonsense from the moment this issue broke the surface. It is not enough that CCP reversed their decision on the "special" ships for Somer's EveVEGAS activities, it is not enough that CCP decided to curtail the GTC bonuses, it is not enough that SomerBLINK can no longer conduct business as they have been used to doing, and in fact, the forum warriors see the fact that CCP gave the affiliates 10 days to comply is further evidence of collusion and conspiracy.

Pathetic.

That monocle looks ridiculous.