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Intaki and the Federation

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GoGo Yubari
PAK
#1 - 2013-11-01 06:11:38 UTC
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INTAKI and the FEDERATION

History of the Gallente Federation wrote:
"One of the most important elements of this new Federation was considering itself as the sole representative of the human race, standing as a meeting place to discuss all matters of mankind. Indeed, there was no comparable body in known space that could equal it. Unlike the modern day Federation, it was not considered a nation. Instead, the Federation was envisioned as the ideal and final development of human civilization, transcending nations, races, or cultures. The Federation was designed to replace the concepts of dividing individuals based on artificial constructs such as ethnicity or world of birth. Its ultimate goal would be to unite humanity under a peaceful, post-nationalist and post-racialist flag where all could flourish at an individual level. However, as communications technology was not as advanced as it would become, these ideals were seldom exported outside of Luminaire. For now, it would remain the primary arbitrator of interstellar exploration and trade. "

The original concept for the Federation considered it as the interstellar meeting ground for all humanity, providing a forum for diplomacy and cooperation. Certainly, when the merits of the Federation have been debated in Intaki politics this initial vision has been commonly cited.

In this transmission we look at the development of the Federation itself through history and the concurrent development of Intaki affairs.

FEDERAL HISTORY and the INTAKI

Having entered interstellar society after first contact with the Gallente, the Intaki were quick to embrace spaceflight after the acquisition of warp drive technology. Already in the pre-Federation era the Intaki were active in colonization and the civilizing of the worlds in what would become known as the Placid region.

The diverse interests of different groups operating in space brought about inevitable conflicts of interest. The Intaki faced meddling on colony worlds from the Gallente United Defense Command and the Gallente-led International Space Cooperative, with the latter even claiming worlds within the Intaki sphere of influence.

It was to address these problems that the Intaki signed the Federal Charter, which replaced the previously Gallente entities with Federal structures intended to be more inclusive. Committed to diplomacy, we joined to address shared concerns in interstellar society and eagerly embraced the emerging vision of a united humanity.

Guided by an an early commitment to maintaining self-reliancy and low levels of involvement by the central bureaucracy in Placid affairs, nevertheless the history of the Intaki since joining is that of becoming increasingly assimilated into the Federation, with the structures of the Intaki Assembly melting under political pressures under the primacy of the Senate.

The creation of the Federal FTL communications grid signaled an era of centralization in the Federation. There was now an inclination to meddle in local affairs, but the legality of such action was questioned by many Caldari and Intaki Senators. Ultimately this lead to the creation of the Federal Constitution which granted the Federation the right to legally intervene in many local affairs.

For the Intaki the initial reason for the signing of the Federal Charter was to find ways and means of addressing such political meddling by the Gallentean organizations involved in space colonization. The Federation sought to provide this mediation by its democratic nature and the Constitution made control of the Senate necessary for the control of local affairs.

When the Federal districts were created later, the influence of the Intaki Assembly as the representative entity of Intaki interests in the Federation was greatly diminished by splitting Placid into constellation sized voting blocks, by effectively making its existing colonies independent and by forbidding further colonization.

Certainly, all these changes have come to be accepted as necessary steps in the service of a guiding vision for a united humanity. For today's Intaki citizens, our cultural and political distinctiveness and our self-reliance were loosened in service of the greater agenda of bringing about a more harmonious fusion of humanity, but it is necessary to understand that we have not arrived to the current situation without considerable opposition and debate.

When the Caldari ceded from the Federation, effectively bringing to an end the reality of the notion of a singularly united humanity, the Intaki Assembly had to once more reconsider the role of the Federation. The meddling of the bureaucracy and Senate politics had been enough to drive the collectivist Caldari away from the only interstellar forum available. Was the Federation serving its purpose or had the Senate failed in its role as purveyor of interstellar peace?

Considering their own history, there was considerable sympathy among the Intaki for the Caldari cause. Fearing that the Caldari example would lead to the secession of the Intaki or the Mannar, under the Gallente majority the Senate became steered by the Hueremont Doctrine which clearly outlined the Caldari and other secessionists as rebels operating beyond the law, subject to harsh retaliation, instead of granting them any official recognition.

Love by nature. Live by luck. Kill by profession.

GoGo Yubari
PAK
#2 - 2013-11-01 06:12:26 UTC
CURRENT STATE of the FEDERATION

The Caldari-Gallente conflict was the first of many troubles that the Federation would encounter on the interstellar stage, but it was not the last.

The effective stalemate that happened when the Amarr Empire was encountered was another. Considered aggressive and barbaric, the imperilistic Amarr failed to live up to Federal expectations on the standards of interstellar societies. Their own philosophy of Reclaiming also put them directly at odds with the Federation's vision as the unifying force in the cluster.

After the Minmatar rebellion, fearing a hostile Amarrian response while still being caught up in the war with the Caldari, the Federation supported the creation of a separate Minmatar Republic instead of bringing them under the Federal Charter. While the Federation's influence on the nascent Republic was not insignificant, the events of this era can be considered another failure in the realization of that vision of a united humanity that was so integral to the early Federation.

The game has changed. A lasting schism had formed in the identity of the Federation. Preserving and gaining national advantage over other interstellar factions begun to supercede the earlier, more lofty goals of the Federation. This is even more true now in the Empyrean Age than it was in the past.

The dream was not entirely lost, however. A faction within the Senate, led by Senator Aidonis Elabon, recognized the fundamental shift in interstellar politics and the Federation's role. His ideas would lead into the development of CONCORD, an organization that inherited this original vision from the Federation and made it palatable to the great empires.

CONCLUSIONS

There is no doubt that the Intaki have played major roles in the Federation throughout its history. This transmission has aimed to provide a historical narrative of the development of Intaki affairs. It seems only prudent to close by an evaluation of the current situation.

One cause for concern in the Intaki community is this change in the nature of the Federation itself. Whether the Federation can re-orient itself towards a more peaceful posture devoted to galactic unity remains to be seen. For now the Intaki find themselves in a Federation with an actively militaristic posture and concerned primarily with national interest, rather than pan-national concern.

Then there is the issue of self-reliance which has traditionally been another important topic in Intaki politics. There is no doubt that the Federal Constitution brought to an end a long period of influence for the Intaki Assembly, but this is ancient history. Since then there have been few major changes to the situation, until the changes of sovereignty in the factional warfare between the Gallente Federation and Caldari State.

From the beginning the Intaki have relied on the Federation to be able to act as a mediator of interstellar affairs. As of late one can make a reasonable argument that in today's war-torn environment Ishukone and Mordu's Legion have done more to address recent issues, providing continuity and security in the Intaki system.

In light of all this, it is no surprise that the Intaki separatist movement finds support in these days. Many Intaki have accepted assimilation in order to advance the state of the Federation at large, if not humanity itself. Yet it must be a bitter pill to swallow that now it seems that such sacrifice has been done only to see the Federation turn into a belligerent faction with national interest as its guiding light.

Today it seems the path forward goes along two diverging roads. The Intaki can either work to refocus the Federation towards its original role or alternatively Intaki can pursue some manner of increased sovereignty and relevance in the Placid region. If one cannot be done, the other seems increasingly likely.

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Love by nature. Live by luck. Kill by profession.

Cosmo Cyrano
October Country
#3 - 2013-11-01 09:51:46 UTC
Hello stranger.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-11-01 10:03:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Andreus Ixiris
GoGo Yubari wrote:
For now the Intaki find themselves in a Federation with an actively militaristic posture and concerned primarily with national interest, rather than pan-national concern.

Every time the Federation attempts "pan-national concern," it's cricitcised for meddling in the affairs of others. Every time the Federation concerns itself with "national interest, "it's accused of dereliction of duty. Every time the Federation adopts an "actively militaristic posture" (in this case, one of self-defence against unprovoked aggression) it's lambasted for some sort of fundamental failing.

You can't have your cake and eat it.

GoGo Yubari wrote:
As of late one can make a reasonable argument that in today's war-torn environment Ishukone and Mordu's Legion have done more to address recent issues, providing continuity and security in the Intaki system.

Mordu's Legion haven't changed the state of the Intaki system one bit. The security status remains the same, Serpentis still infest the asteroid belts and deadspace complexes and the Legion was conspicuously absent during the two Sansha incursions of YC 112. But you know who wasn't? The FDU and Federal loyalists.

GoGo Yubari wrote:
In light of all this, it is no surprise that the Intaki separatist movement finds support in these days.

Fun fact: popular support for the Intaki seperatist movement has been lower since the liberation of Intaki from its six-month occupation than it ever was during peacetime. Its capsuleer proponents may be more vocal (although, in fact, they aren't - Bataav is the only representative of the IPI who still actively promotes seperatism on the IGS on a regular basis) but seccessionalism is no more successful or popular in Placid now than it was before the war - that might have something to do with the fact that the Provists auctioned the system to the highest bidder, and it was only through sheer "luck" (read: most likely, someone somewhere cut a deal) that the highest bidder happened to be a megacorporation with at least a shred of conscience.

GoGo Yubari wrote:
Many Intaki have accepted assimilation in order to advance the state of the Federation at large, if not humanity itself. Yet it must be a bitter pill to swallow that now it seems that such sacrifice has been done only to see the Federation turn into a belligerent faction with national interest as its guiding light.

"Belligerent faction?" The State attacked us. Twice. Lest you forget, it also attacked and occupied Intaki.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Aelisha
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#5 - 2013-11-01 11:01:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Aelisha
As much as I support the cause for Intaki independence, I recognize it is not a realistic proposal at this point in time. Furthermore, Andreus Ixiris has provided a critical deconstruction of your posts that I am in agreement with in the vein of general logic; you have stooped to revisionist history and a misreading of the political situation present and past between the Federation and State to construct a favorable case for your ideology. I support Andreus' reading of your work in this instance, not out of love for the Federation, but in the interests of bringing the real issues of Intaki secession to light, if not in the region of Placid, then at least in the dissolution of the bar on Syndicate Intaki colonization.

Making arguments based on fallacies and revisionist statements only damages the core efforts of your less vocal peers. I urge you to analyse and recollect your thoughts on this matter to present a realistic and balanced view that deals with the Intaki who desire complete autonomy first and foremost. It is clear that the Federation still commands a great deal of respect and affection from our people despite reservations I and notable others share. The Syndicate is the first port of independence in this line of thinking, as these individuals have been cast from the Federation due to their past grievances against it, and remain barred from touching the fertile worlds of their region on pain of Federation intervention. Liberty for those who wish it - if you force a human being to be free in a manner of your choosing, you are yourself a tyrant.

Perspective, reasoning and a focus on reconciliation will gather more momentum for the cause of an Independent Intaki state than the erroneous and misleading rhetoric displayed by the original poster.

CEO of the Achura-Waschi Exchange

Intaki Reborn

Independent Capsuleer

Seriphyn Inhonores
Elusenian Cooperative
#6 - 2013-11-01 12:07:06 UTC
Nah, I like Pilot Yubari's take, and enjoyed reading it. They've openly acknowledged that the point of "warping" cultures (by removing slavery or militarism for example) is to create a harmonious human environment. That's the lofty goal at least.

More capsuleers should really consider the purpose of the modern day Federation. If it's no longer what it set out to be, what is it? Why not ditch the culturally-biased (some would say) Constitution in favour of a far looser confederacy of the different states? We can retain the central military and economic policy, but is the central constitutional framework necessary if it'll just cause tension?
Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#7 - 2013-11-01 12:36:13 UTC
Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:
Nah, I like Pilot Yubari's take, and enjoyed reading it. They've openly acknowledged that the point of "warping" cultures (by removing slavery or militarism for example) is to create a harmonious human environment. That's the lofty goal at least.

More capsuleers should really consider the purpose of the modern day Federation. If it's no longer what it set out to be, what is it? Why not ditch the culturally-biased (some would say) Constitution in favour of a far looser confederacy of the different states? We can retain the central military and economic policy, but is the central constitutional framework necessary if it'll just cause tension?


I think the main concern would be that a weaker central government would encourage factionalism, and the Federation already deals with enough of those headaches within the system of political parties. One might imagine what would happen if the ethnic Gallente (as an example, as such a fractious state could divide into any number of territories) suddenly decided that they faced a threat from the Intaki. At present, they're all under the umbrella and any scuffling gets everyone wet. Civil war might be almost inevitable unless, like the Matari, you have a conveniently omnipresent enemy to point at in order to get everyone in line.

Unfortunately, I don't think GoGo's idea of greater Intaki autonomy in the face of increased militarism would be appreciative of that style of politics by fear. Instead, the Federation needs to find a common bastion to put their back against, the way we Amarrians do. We have our faith and, in lieu of faith, the Federation has politics. Their politics, like our faith, may not ever be carried out perfectly, for men are fallible creatures. But there's nothing wrong with rallying around something that works in an ideal world and then working towards the ideal.

That is essentially what the Gallente Federation is. The Church of Democracy.

"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"

-Matthew 16:26

Andrea Okazon
Laurentson INC
#8 - 2013-11-01 13:11:32 UTC
You're an exceptionally thoughtful man, Fr. Baracca. I have no idea what you're doing in a pod.
Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#9 - 2013-11-01 14:10:12 UTC
Andrea Okazon wrote:
You're an exceptionally thoughtful man, Fr. Baracca. I have no idea what you're doing in a pod.


It's a long story.

"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"

-Matthew 16:26

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#10 - 2013-11-01 14:49:05 UTC
One little point that Andreus missed in his paen in support of the Federation - they inked the deal that put Intaki in the CEWPA area. And, having made it a legitimate war target, they then failed to defend it. I believe the system is vulnerable again, as we speak, Andreus.

If we had put Saisio in the CEMWPA area and then, effectively, ceded it to the Federation for six months (and not the better part of the Federation, either. The FDU is to the Federation what the STPRO is to the State) I wouldn't be surprised if there was a movement for Achuran secession.

But really. How you can act as if anything to do with the CEMWPA is 'unchecked and unilateral Caldari aggression' is beyond me. There are two partners in that dance.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-11-01 15:19:40 UTC
the question to ask is: what's in the best interests of the Intaki? Because for the time being I suspect that the status quo is still the best thing for them.

What would independence buy them? Well, for starters they'd become a lone system, an independent enclave encysted within and surrounded by the Federation, meaning that all interstellar trade would have to cross Federation borders and be subject to their laws. Intaki would need to find a naval force to replace the fact that they're covered by the same kind of FedNav response fleet that dealt with the Kador assault. I doubt the system itself has the resources to build stargates to other territories and bypass Federation borders. Independence from the Federation would gain them nothing, and lose them much.

What about alliance with and/or membership of a foreign power? While full membership would certainly mitigate the downsides to leaving the Federation, it'd introduce new problems, such as prejudice, mistrust, and all the other problems that come with integrating into a new society.

The State represents probably the best foreign hope the Intaki would have, but Caldari Megacorps would be reluctant and slow to employ Intaki when they have their own domestic workforce to find positions for, and who have corporate-approved educations and have followed corporate-approved career tracks. The megas like to be in control, and an influx of seceded Intaki applicants would be less... ordered than they typically like. investing in the Intaki people and taking them on in any serious way would be a big risk for any of the megas, both politically and financially

The Minmatar? Similar problems, really - the Matari love their tribes, and if you're not a Tribal then you're already handicapped in the Republic. Forging that alliance into something that worked would take even longer than it currently is. The fact is that if you're not Matari, then the Minmatar Republic isn't much concerned with you. That's understandable - they have big enough problems of their own.

As for the empire... well, it would result in slaves. Lots of them. I don't think I need go into too much detail here, it's obviously just not a good match, culturally. If the point is to preserve the uniqueness of Intaki culture and the independence of its people, then it would be counter-productive to hook up with an Empire whose stated divine mandate is to convert the entirety of humanity to be subservient to their god.

So I don't see a scenario where secession really benefits the Intaki, save by the generosity of foreign powers devoting a lot of money and resources to helping them out in a gamble that's unlikely to pay off. That's hardly encouraging. The fact is that one system's worth of people just don't have any foundation to be viable economic competition with corporations and governments that span whole regions.

Maybe I'm overlooking something, but if the Intaki want what's best for them, then from this outsider's perspective the best thing for them to do would be to stay where they are and continue to apply just enough pressure to stay themselves and stay balanced, without pushing away all the benefits that come with their current situation.

Ultimately, it's nobody's decision but their own.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Andrea Okazon
Laurentson INC
#12 - 2013-11-01 15:21:21 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
One little point that Andreus missed in his paen in support of the Federation - they inked the deal that put Intaki in the CEWPA area. And, having made it a legitimate war target, they then failed to defend it. I believe the system is vulnerable again, as we speak, Andreus.

If we had put Saisio in the CEMWPA area and then, effectively, ceded it to the Federation for six months (and not the better part of the Federation, either. The FDU is to the Federation what the STPRO is to the State) I wouldn't be surprised if there was a movement for Achuran secession.

But really. How you can act as if anything to do with the CEMWPA is 'unchecked and unilateral Caldari aggression' is beyond me. There are two partners in that dance.


I mean, did you see what that solar system was wearing?
Iwan Terpalen
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-11-01 15:30:51 UTC
Andrea Okazon wrote:
I mean, did you see what that solar system was wearing?


Yup.

FDU whites.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#14 - 2013-11-01 17:25:53 UTC
Brown and whites.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Seriphyn Inhonores
Elusenian Cooperative
#15 - 2013-11-01 17:51:31 UTC
Andrea Okazon wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
One little point that Andreus missed in his paen in support of the Federation - they inked the deal that put Intaki in the CEWPA area. And, having made it a legitimate war target, they then failed to defend it. I believe the system is vulnerable again, as we speak, Andreus.

If we had put Saisio in the CEMWPA area and then, effectively, ceded it to the Federation for six months (and not the better part of the Federation, either. The FDU is to the Federation what the STPRO is to the State) I wouldn't be surprised if there was a movement for Achuran secession.

But really. How you can act as if anything to do with the CEMWPA is 'unchecked and unilateral Caldari aggression' is beyond me. There are two partners in that dance.


I mean, did you see what that solar system was wearing?


Oh, no, you didn't!
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-11-01 19:00:48 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
One little point that Andreus missed in his paen in support of the Federation - they inked the deal that put Intaki in the CEWPA area.

Not by choice, I assure you.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#17 - 2013-11-01 19:05:59 UTC
It's amazing what you'll sign when a doomsday device is within system-close proximity of the spiritual birthplace of the Federation.

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.

Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#18 - 2013-11-01 19:11:29 UTC
Caellach Marellus wrote:
It's amazing what you'll sign when a doomsday device is within system-close proximity of the spiritual birthplace of the Federation.


It's amazing the lengths a culture will go to to reclaim the home they were forced out of.
Andrea Okazon
Laurentson INC
#19 - 2013-11-01 19:20:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrea Okazon
I think the OP's history reminds us of something quite interesting, actually, which is that the Federation (as originally conceived) is an idea whose time has passed -- though I believe it is an idea whose time will come again.

I'm not talking about democratic liberalism, but about the idea of ecumenical interplanetary government. When the Federation was conceived, it was a "light touch" -- a very limited government intended to safeguard the interests of its members, who retained political autonomy (and who, to a significant extent, still do).

The idea that the Federation was destined to be a meeting place for all humanity was an expression of ignorance, not arrogance. We did not know that the Amarr had already returned to space. We had uncertain evidence that interplanetary forms of "identity" were even sustainable over the long term.

The transformation -- some would say corruption -- of the original minimally-interventionist, non-military Federation into its current form is the result of many things, but clearly the external pressure of a strongly centralized, expansionist and incommensurable interplanetary government (the Amarr) played a large part, even in the absence of open warfare.

Viewed from this perspective, the alliance between the Caldari and the Amarr has a certain unfortunate irony.
Caellach Marellus
Stormcrows
#20 - 2013-11-01 19:20:50 UTC
Evi Polevhia wrote:
Caellach Marellus wrote:
It's amazing what you'll sign when a doomsday device is within system-close proximity of the spiritual birthplace of the Federation.


It's amazing the lengths a culture will go to to reclaim the home they were forced out of.


Not really relevant in this discussion though is it? While it's all cause and effect there's already many topics that have been side tracked on that discussion.

The point is, you really think without the Shiigeru's presence, that the Federation would have signed the CEWPA?

When your gut instincts tell you something is wrong, trust them. When your heart tells you something is right, ignore it, check with your brain first. Accept nothing, challenge everything.

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