Intergalactic Summit

Serpentis, Gurista? I would say EoM but they are a bit too special.

The Summit = Home of criminal. Minus a few parties. No attacks and drama please. Mind you, we already own all the seats of power, no contending the other invested parties.

So entirely disgusting...

Yes, we're lacking Gallente and Minmatar representation. No offense to Ms Starfire, but Stormcrows are registered under Mordu's Legion. There's also a lack of representation from the Sisters of EVE, I believe, and SOCT. I would not expect CONCORD representation du to their neutrality.

Not that I can speak for them in any capacity, but I would think the SoE and SoCT would also remain neutral in nearly every regard. Them having a diplomatic representative to a neutral meeting ground would serve little purpose.

To be, for once, serious. There is an actual problem with places like The Summit and other "open" places. It's been mentioned repeatedly over the last few years almost every time there's been new ventures pioneered or projects considered. "Open" places allowing everyone in, will by default mean a lot of people are prohibited if they have certain standards.

If one does not want to rub shoulders with criminals, then places where criminals are prolific become off limits. If you don't want to rub shoulders with Feddies, you aren't going to consider the Crystal Boulevard as the first choice to visit. If you have principles that keep you from mingling with Sansha, places that welcome them and are even moderated by a representative of theirs will be barred from entry.

The simple solution is of course to throw all principles and standards to the wind. This should be recognized by everyone as less than ideal. These principles and standards are valuable to many, essential to some and should be preserved. In effect, no matter how unbiased, fair and professional the moderation is, the very presence proclaims loudly to the entire cluster that you are not welcome if you're not willing to mingle with the Sansha, Blooders and whoever else now holds claim there.

This is not a fair thing to ask, if the Summit is supposed to be for "everyone", because that means it's just for the "everyone" that populates or tolerates the populace of one end of the scale of civilization. The other side of it is, without the actual words, told to either suck it up or go away.

Is this really a good thing for a place of diplomacy and community? Is this something that benefits the capsuleers of New Eden, really?

I can't say I have the answers, but I certainly can understand that the questions are raised. Of course, they're just going to be ridiculed and ignored this time as well, but I don't think it benefits anyone if they go entirely silent either.

It would also require a Capsuleer loyal to CONCORD that enjoys bashing their head against a solid object repeatedly in frustration.

Last I checked, we're a rare breed as it is, and while I respect the moderators of the Summit for their work, I've no desire to step in their shoes.

People do set up alternate channels. In fact, I do believe there are official channels for the exact same purpose as The Summit. That's not the point, though, is it? There is for all intents and purposes just one channel that's there for "everyone", simply due to old habits, weight of numbers and out of... control... reasons. As it were. The problems outlined above doesn't just disappear just because people can make Teh Sumiit or derivatives thereof.

It's not about moderation either. Moderation is welcome. You've been a good one, for all I know. It's about actually welcoming everyone. The only way to welcome everyone, is to block and bar someone from entry. When that traitor set up Arek'jalaan, many were interested but weren't able to participate as it quickly became for all intents and purposes drowned in criminals and cultists of all sorts. We see the same thing with the Summit.

That alternatives exist does not make the problems disappear, particularly when the only official alternative is entirely unmoderated. Right now as I set up this missive, that sad fact is all too apparent as someone is claiming to be scratching my teeth.

So is that truly your only solution, Tiberious? "Go away"?

I think what has not been pointed out is that True Slave, though Nation Loyalists, are not Nation. They can not speak for Kuvakei in any official capacity, the same way none of us can speak for our respective factions in an official capacity.

Isis, your self hatred is obvious, and has been obvious. This is not an insult. It is in a way, a compliment, as you are clear-eyed enough to see yourself as exactly what you are. But do realise that other people also see themselves as they are, and in a sense, as others are.

In the end, we are all capsuleers, under the tritanium fist of CONCORD, save an illegal cloning facility or two -- if they're even in operation or still functioning these days, as the data on them is rather old. This includes also the members of TS-F.

I may despise their views, because they conflict strongly with the ones I was raised to follow, nearly unconciously, as a citizen of the Kingdom. There are the views of quite a few people I despise. But at the end of the day when one murders thousands of baseliners a day regardless of faction standing or the self-justification used to fall asleep at night after the frequency crystals cool down and the weapons stop cycling, we are an a very real sense no longer truly our factions, our origins, or our baseliner "histories".

Our loyalties as Capsule Pilots are considered fluid and dangerous because of the immensity of our ability to change the world around us, and we are all controlled for this exact reason, by the same organization -- CONCORD. Not The Empress, not the President of the Fed, not the CEO's of the megacorps, not the Tribal Leaders of the Republic, not the countless Alliance leads, Pirate commanders, or corporate CEOs.

Do not fool yourself that you are still playing Conquestors and Heathens [[translates as Cowboys and Indians, or Cops and Robbers, whichever is appropriate via the translators - you get the hint]]. You are a Capsuleer. TS-F are Capsuleers. The Summit is a comms channel for Capsuleers.

There is no issue with Tiberious. There would have been had he taken issue with my involvement of the sex trade, while he is a walking advocate of mass abduction.

I will not be leaving but he won't have my respect as a character. He is an enemy of my people, of my friends, of all that I have stood to be as a capsuleer. There are many people I have kept close who suffer severely because of what his people have done and continue to do.

His opinions, and those within his corporate entity, are vile. They set off a hate that burns hotter than anything I hold against the Amarrians.

Sansha is evil.

I'm sure many share this opinion. I'll try my absolute damnedest not to let that get in way of my interactions on The Summit. But the longer I hold that back, the more it eats at me.

Am I letting down all those who are suffering because of their actions by not ripping them a new one every chance I get?

After all, that's what the victims are feeling…


No promises.

I'm an immortal, already fighting for so many that aren't here today. It hurts enough as it is.

Fair enough. This is, perhaps, the entire point of the Summit. You are welcome to your opinion of Tiberious and Sansha's Nation. Maker knows I share those opinions.

What I do not share is the opinion that he is unfit for a very specific task of moderation due to his loyalties. In fact, his loyalties and hideous brain implants may make him more fit for the task than myself. I admit to being more prone to emotional outbursts than he ever was even before his implantation.