EVE General Discussion

Yes that is all well and good for people who are in one of the large null power blocks and have access to high quality null sec anomaly allot of the player base don't.

Seriously, every thread in GD that propose s a feature is "nope".

I fall for every troll and write massive posts to refute them

Trolling is against forum rules. I just naturally assume people are generally capable of following the rules. If this thread is a troll, then it needs to be locked. How you came by that conclusion, what with you not being the OP of course, is interesting, but no doubt merely speculative in and of itself. You trolling me just now, however, in such a disrespectful fashion, is nothing short of flaming, which is also against the rules. At least I had the courtesy and maturity to address the OP with reasoned and carefully assessed and articulated discussion points. Was it a bit too long for you?

All you've really done here is make an assumption about the OP, then based on that assumption, try to put me down. So far, though, I've managed to escape the cynicism and bitterness and subsequent speculations of the real trolls on the forums, like yourself of course, who are really only here to seek out weakness and exploit it for the sake of their own ego growth. I hope it was worth it, but that's probably why trolling is against the rules. At least, if the OP was trolling, he was doing it with civility instead of spite.

I stand by my choice to take the OP seriously, because I prefer to seek the best in people. Some, like you, might call that naive. But that's why the world is going to ****, and unfortunately, it's hard to see the best in people that put their worst so openly on display like yourself.

I recommend you go find yourself a good Disney movie and try to remember what it was like, long ago, when you could at least address people as if they had the right to respect. Because if you can't show respect to begin with, you most certainly don't deserve to have it returned. And yet, here I am, and I still have shown you no spite or disrespect myself, even though after that crap, you wholly deserve it.

I do believe that makes me the better man.

Cheers for that.

If you can't afford to play MMORPGs, then you clearly shouldn't be playing MMORPGs.

You should be working.

Well done

Alright guys I've got this one.

At the moment, EVE cannot survive in the long-run, which is what CCP want the game to be a - a game lasting decades, not years. With biggies like Star Citizen coming round with one-time fees and no-subs, there's gonna be some serious questions asked by the players. Questions like this:

"Why am I still paying for this bad bad game when star citizen is a lot cheaper?"

This question will mean people will unsubscribe. We've also noticed a big trend in the MMO world going away from subs, that trend isn't fully done yet. But when it is, who knows what'll happen to the CCP.

The big business model transFORMATION

Okay guys, so here's how I think CCP should do it.

1) EVE becomes free. Anybody can make account, download and start getting scammed by goons.

2) CCP sells character slots, ship paints, golden pods and more clothes and stuff. Basically, CCP sells as much as it can that doesn't have an impact on gameplay.

3) Population of EVE rises. There are huge huge wars because there are so many people fighting and having fun.

4) EVE is a lot better, more dynamic. Look at all of the politics with 400k people fighting for a finite amount of space. Imagine 5 million people fighting for the same amount of space? It would be crazy. Absolutely crazy.

This would probably INCREASE CCPs profits as well. I'd recommend that they do this IPO on the stockmarket they were talking about, as that will get the big businesses interested and posting articles about this awesome sci-fi sim. All of the hardcore eve fans, like the mitani, will probably buy shares - so they'll have even more money to improve the game.

As they improve the game more people play and buy cosmetic items and CCP get richer.

Thoughts please.


Thread update:

Thanks for feedback guys, I think there are a few more points worth adding here.

1) CCP should also consider the option of buy to play. Perhaps a £39.99 to get access to the game client, but fees after that - this would ensure there is a paywall to supplement CCP profits and keep out the hacking community. With the increased profits, CCP would have greater confidence in following a strictly cosmetic cash4items scheme.

Buy to play has been an extremely successful model and I think it is particularly relevant to EVE ONLINE. Why? The model in GW2 has triggered slow but steady growth, this is the type of growth CCP has always been experiencing with EVE. http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/08/23/lead-designer-says-guild-wars-2-is-growing-its-playerbase/

2) Secondly, a steam launch as free to play would be a great bolster to current numbers. 0.9 of the world's population has a steam account. http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/10/30/0-9-of-the-global-population-have-steam-accounts/