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EVE: The Free to Play REVOLUTION!

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Maurice deSaxe
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#81 - 2013-10-30 20:32:52 UTC
I Love Boobies wrote:
Dude... I haven't paid real money to play this game in like... years. Even before PLEX, when GTCs were the preferred form of payment with ISK.

And this . You can pay for 3 accounts in less then 12 hours of game play a month.
ConranAntoni
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#82 - 2013-10-30 20:38:15 UTC
Hey look.

Another shitpost thread.

Empyrean Warriors - Recruiting now.
Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#83 - 2013-10-30 20:41:17 UTC
ConranAntoni wrote:
Hey look.

Another shitpost thread.

Hey look

another meta post

RATE LIKE SUBSCRIBE
Lucy Journey
Between a Rock and a Hard Place
#84 - 2013-10-30 20:42:36 UTC
This thread again!?!

"Oh, let's alienate all of our existing paying customers, and hope that new players join the game instead to make up for the loss of revenue"
Anomaly One
Doomheim
#85 - 2013-10-30 20:59:00 UTC
Quote:
The LoL community are some of the most horrific wretches of humanity that exist. I quit playing LoL because of said community, despite enjoying the game. That is one of the things I'd rather see NOT happen to EvE.


So ******* true I played that game since the very first day of S1, diamond 1 and don't give a ****, LoL has real psychos, the bad ones, Eve has the good fun loving ones Twisted also some forms of boosting have gotten out of hand iiirk.. still play it but so much less now, gets boring after 4 years, anyway..

This thread is now about teemo.
Amhra Rho
Accujac Elimination
#86 - 2013-10-30 21:05:35 UTC
Star Citizen is not even in the same game class as Eve Online. The only similarity between them is spaceships.

Tell you a story. Since I started Eve, a dozen other MMOs (which all really WERE in the same game class) came and went for me. The only one left standing is Eve.

There's real reasons why your Eve character doesn't do /dance.
Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#87 - 2013-10-30 21:35:18 UTC
Jim McMorris wrote:
Alright guys I've got this one.

At the moment, EVE cannot survive in the long-run, which is what CCP want the game to be a - a game lasting decades, not years. With biggies like Star Citizen coming round with one-time fees and no-subs, there's gonna be some serious questions asked by the players. Questions like this:

"Why am I still paying for this bad bad game when star citizen is a lot cheaper?"

This question will mean people will unsubscribe. We've also noticed a big trend in the MMO world going away from subs, that trend isn't fully done yet. But when it is, who knows what'll happen to the CCP.

The big business model transFORMATION

Okay guys, so here's how I think CCP should do it.

1) EVE becomes free. Anybody can make account, download and start getting scammed by goons.

2) CCP sells character slots, ship paints, golden pods and more clothes and stuff. Basically, CCP sells as much as it can that doesn't have an impact on gameplay.

3) Population of EVE rises. There are huge huge wars because there are so many people fighting and having fun.

4) EVE is a lot better, more dynamic. Look at all of the politics with 400k people fighting for a finite amount of space. Imagine 5 million people fighting for the same amount of space? It would be crazy. Absolutely crazy.

This would probably INCREASE CCPs profits as well. I'd recommend that they do this IPO on the stockmarket they were talking about, as that will get the big businesses interested and posting articles about this awesome sci-fi sim. All of the hardcore eve fans, like the mitani, will probably buy shares - so they'll have even more money to improve the game.

As they improve the game more people play and buy cosmetic items and CCP get richer.

Thoughts please.


Thread update:

Thanks for feedback guys, I think there are a few more points worth adding here.

1) CCP should also consider the option of buy to play. Perhaps a £39.99 to get access to the game client, but fees after that - this would ensure there is a paywall to supplement CCP profits and keep out the hacking community. With the increased profits, CCP would have greater confidence in following a strictly cosmetic cash4items scheme.

Buy to play has been an extremely successful model and I think it is particularly relevant to EVE ONLINE. Why? The model in GW2 has triggered slow but steady growth, this is the type of growth CCP has always been experiencing with EVE. http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/08/23/lead-designer-says-guild-wars-2-is-growing-its-playerbase/

2) Secondly, a steam launch as free to play would be a great bolster to current numbers. 0.9 of the world's population has a steam account. http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/10/30/0-9-of-the-global-population-have-steam-accounts/



Please biomass.

CCP, please raise sub fees to $20, so guys like this will desub and stop stupiding up your game world....

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
TharOkha
0asis Group
#88 - 2013-10-30 21:46:53 UTC  |  Edited by: TharOkha
Hey OP. Did you know that:
-Free to play is just renamed "DEMO VERSION" ? (like "Cloud" is just renamed "the internet")
-EVE is already "true free to play" (PLEX)?
-Star citizen is no.5454866322 game in a row which is going to "kill EVE definitely"?
-You are using textbooks fallacies?
-EVE is here for more than 10 years now only because people like you and your stupid ideas are not in the CCP management?
-you would do a favor for many of us here if you biomass yourself right now ?

CODE. Venture hunt contest in a nutshell
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#89 - 2013-10-30 21:52:33 UTC
Jim McMorris wrote:
lots of stuff...
Thoughts please.

Thank you for your ideas, but no.

Of course it's CCP's privilege to go down that road. But not with my money and not with my time.


Remove standings and insurance.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#90 - 2013-10-30 21:54:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Gogela
ship†os†^2

No.

edit: wait to play star citizen. I've gotten pumped for a bunch of other games too... Jumpgate Evolution, Black Prophecy, etc.. major let-downs many times over. SC looks awesome, and freelancer was one of my all-time favorite games, but I'm not sure... sharded universe and all...

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#91 - 2013-10-30 22:19:49 UTC
TharOkha wrote:
Hey OP. Did you know that:
-Free to play is just renamed "DEMO VERSION" ? (like "Cloud" is just renamed "the internet")
-EVE is already "true free to play" (PLEX)?
-Star citizen is no.5454866322 game in a row which is going to "kill EVE definitely"?
-You are using textbooks fallacies?
-EVE is here for more than 10 years now only because people like you and your stupid ideas are not in the CCP management?
-you would do a favor for many of us here if you biomass yourself right now ?


That's two votes for "biomass"

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
#92 - 2013-10-30 22:22:20 UTC
Why hello there Mr. Decker it's nice to meet your in-game character.
PotatoOverdose
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#93 - 2013-10-30 22:22:20 UTC  |  Edited by: PotatoOverdose
Vote #3 for biomass. Also, eve has already lasted over a decade. Their business model is fine.
Garandras
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#94 - 2013-10-30 22:24:59 UTC
I do love people that say EvE cant survive the long run..

EvE has been going strong for 10years... very few games are considered worth playing after a single year..
Karak Terrel
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#95 - 2013-10-30 22:42:46 UTC
Amhra Rho wrote:
Star Citizen is not even in the same game class as Eve Online. The only similarity between them is spaceships.

But they don't even look like spaceships, more like jet fighters. Jet fighters with toilets. I pledged for this game long ago, but the more stuff they show off the less appealing I find sc as a whole.
Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#96 - 2013-10-30 22:45:45 UTC
Karak Terrel wrote:
Amhra Rho wrote:
Star Citizen is not even in the same game class as Eve Online. The only similarity between them is spaceships.

But they don't even look like spaceships, more like jet fighters. Jet fighters with toilets. I pledged for this game long ago, but the more stuff they show off the less appealing I find sc as a whole.


Did you never play Wing Commander? I mean, if you didn't like that then you won't like SC.

Looking to talk on VOIP with other EVE players? Are you new and need help with EVE (welfare) or looking for advice? Looking for adversarial debate with angry people?

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Amhra Rho
Accujac Elimination
#97 - 2013-10-30 22:48:38 UTC
Karak Terrel wrote:
Amhra Rho wrote:
Star Citizen is not even in the same game class as Eve Online. The only similarity between them is spaceships.

But they don't even look like spaceships, more like jet fighters. Jet fighters with toilets. I pledged for this game long ago, but the more stuff they show off the less appealing I find sc as a whole.

I plan to take a look at it, but I'm predicting that in the final analysis, StarCit will be yet another also-ran to Eve for me.

There's real reasons why your Eve character doesn't do /dance.
Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#98 - 2013-10-30 22:50:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Captain Tardbar
Well the largest player flown ships on SC is the Idris:

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/13097-Idris-Corvette-Revealed

Can handle two fighters and lots of manned guns so you need a group of people to effectively run the ship.

Looking to talk on VOIP with other EVE players? Are you new and need help with EVE (welfare) or looking for advice? Looking for adversarial debate with angry people?

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Amhra Rho
Accujac Elimination
#99 - 2013-10-30 22:52:51 UTC
Captain Tardbar wrote:
Karak Terrel wrote:
Amhra Rho wrote:
Star Citizen is not even in the same game class as Eve Online. The only similarity between them is spaceships.

But they don't even look like spaceships, more like jet fighters. Jet fighters with toilets. I pledged for this game long ago, but the more stuff they show off the less appealing I find sc as a whole.


Did you never play Wing Commander? I mean, if you didn't like that then you won't like SC.

Never did, although I heard good things about it. Wing Commander never was in the "running", however - quite simply, I only do MMOs.

There's real reasons why your Eve character doesn't do /dance.
Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#100 - 2013-10-30 22:54:26 UTC
Amhra Rho wrote:
Captain Tardbar wrote:
Karak Terrel wrote:
Amhra Rho wrote:
Star Citizen is not even in the same game class as Eve Online. The only similarity between them is spaceships.

But they don't even look like spaceships, more like jet fighters. Jet fighters with toilets. I pledged for this game long ago, but the more stuff they show off the less appealing I find sc as a whole.


Did you never play Wing Commander? I mean, if you didn't like that then you won't like SC.

Never did, although I heard good things about it. Wing Commander never was in the "running", however - quite simply, I only do MMOs.


You must be young. Wing Commander was before MMO's in the early 1990's. I had a copy on the SNES.

Looking to talk on VOIP with other EVE players? Are you new and need help with EVE (welfare) or looking for advice? Looking for adversarial debate with angry people?

Captain Tardbar's Voice Discord Server