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Rubicon Is A Horrible Expansion

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Prince Kobol
#41 - 2013-10-30 08:10:51 UTC
Like I said before.. the impact of these unit on any null sec alliance with a decent TZ coverage will be minimal.

The damage they will do to those small corps with towers in low sec will be huge.

Most people haven't a clue about moon goo so they will just blindly throw siphons on any tower they find since they are so cheap.

Many people will simply stop bothering with their towers and there goes another small advantage LS has over HS.
Prince Kobol
#42 - 2013-10-30 08:11:16 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:


Which will not happen, I mean you can say it over and over again but fact is you wont.



You're wrong, as usual. Big smile


Nope..
Mara Tessidar
Perkone
Caldari State
#43 - 2013-10-30 08:14:49 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:

You're wrong, as usual. Big smile


Just like how we were wrong about tech. Just like how we were wrong about faction warfare. Just like how we were wrong about supercapitals. Just like how we were wrong about PI goods.


Yeah. So, so wrong.
Mhax Arthie
Doomheim
#44 - 2013-10-30 08:15:34 UTC
I agree that Rubicon would be called a patch in any other mmo, only in EVE is called expansion for some weird reason.

But also I have to ask.. what's wrong in taking stuff from the rich and give it to people in need?! I thought that BoB attitude was bad. Anyway, many Brave people will be very happy in a couple of weeks....nom, nom.... shinnnnnyyyy!!1!
Prince Kobol
#45 - 2013-10-30 08:18:41 UTC
Mhax Arthie wrote:
I agree that Rubicon would be called a patch in any other mmo, only in EVE is called expansion for some weird reason.

But also I have to ask.. what's wrong in taking stuff from the rich and give it to people in need?! I thought that BoB attitude was bad. Anyway, many Brave people will be very happy in a couple of weeks....nom, nom.... shinnnnnyyyy!!1!


Learn to read..

There will be no taking from the rich.

There will only be the rich getting richer and the small getting kicked in the balls
PotatoOverdose
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#46 - 2013-10-30 08:28:12 UTC  |  Edited by: PotatoOverdose
Prince Kobol wrote:
Like I said before.. the impact of these unit on any null sec alliance with a decent TZ coverage will be minimal.


Yes, every alliance will have a 24/7/365 moon patrol that will watch each and every single one of their moons. Constant vigilance in every corner of the null bloc's space will be the word of the day. Roll

Which will not happen, I mean you can say it over and over again but fact is it wont. Cool
Fey Ivory
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2013-10-30 08:30:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Fey Ivory
Prince Kobol wrote:
Mhax Arthie wrote:
I agree that Rubicon would be called a patch in any other mmo, only in EVE is called expansion for some weird reason.

But also I have to ask.. what's wrong in taking stuff from the rich and give it to people in need?! I thought that BoB attitude was bad. Anyway, many Brave people will be very happy in a couple of weeks....nom, nom.... shinnnnnyyyy!!1!


Learn to read..

There will be no taking from the rich.

There will only be the rich getting richer and the small getting kicked in the balls


oki, systems need to be traveled and mapped out, what makes you think its already not been done ?, most null systems ewen with valuable assets, IS empty, simply couse the big ones, if attacked, gets warning, muster fleet and respond... Now we face a new situation, these people need to activly , check their assets and the moons, they need to be patroled, checked, it will be hours upon hours of dread, i kind of piety those that have to do this, while people that have no assets can take a cloaked ship and just leave and check in once in awhile and see traffick, and when calm drop a siphon, the difrence is i know when i move, while those having to defend against it, have to make people do hours upon hours of boring work in empty space, the silence is a killer, so ya if its done, well then those people alot aint doing anything else, excpept patroling empty space, im sure they will be thrilled, and people like me in CAS, i have absolutly nothing to loose, we have no assets, and ewen if cought, with hand in sweet jar, well, so what, fun fight and a scrap bucket lost, its not like it cant be repalced anyway... BUT

what i dont get is, some of null and low sec people been crying to get more people out in null and low, isent this exactly what it does ?
Prince Kobol
#48 - 2013-10-30 08:32:28 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Like I said before.. the impact of these unit on any null sec alliance with a decent TZ coverage will be minimal.


Yes, every alliance will have a 24/7/365 moon patrol that will watch each and every single one of their moons. Constant vigilance in every corner of the null bloc's space will be the word of the day. Roll

Which will not happen, I mean you can say it over and over again but fact is it wont. Cool


Do you even live in null, have you ever been in null?

Its not like every alliance is going to need 1000's of players watching their moon. Christ a couple of guys in each TZ is going to be enough.

After a few weeks of people wasting their isk on siphon units and losing their ships when they try to collect it they will simply stop.

Also when you place your siphon unit.. how do you intend on getting the product out?
Jaxon Grylls
Institute of Archaeology
#49 - 2013-10-30 08:33:01 UTC
Mara Tessidar wrote:

I think you should leave the question of "what's going to happen to moon mineral prices if the supply is disrupted by x amount" to the people who understand how moon minerals actually work. People like Mynnna and Aryth, for example.



Arghh! This game is getting to be like RL. Run by politicians and accountants.
Prince Kobol
#50 - 2013-10-30 08:33:22 UTC
Fey Ivory wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Mhax Arthie wrote:
I agree that Rubicon would be called a patch in any other mmo, only in EVE is called expansion for some weird reason.

But also I have to ask.. what's wrong in taking stuff from the rich and give it to people in need?! I thought that BoB attitude was bad. Anyway, many Brave people will be very happy in a couple of weeks....nom, nom.... shinnnnnyyyy!!1!


Learn to read..

There will be no taking from the rich.

There will only be the rich getting richer and the small getting kicked in the balls


oki, systems need to be traveled and mapped out, what makes you think its already not been done ?, most null systems ewen with valuable assets, IS empty, simply couse the big ones, if attacked, gets warning, muster fleet and respond... Now we face a new situation, these people need to activly , check their assets and the moons, they need to be patroled, checked, it will be hours upon hours of dread, i kind of piety those that have to do this, while people that have no assets can take a cloaked ship and just leave and check in once in awhile and see traffick, and when calm drop a siphon, the difrence is i know when i move, while those having to defend against it, have to make people do hours upon hours of boring work in empty space, the silence is a killer, so ya if its done, well then those people alot aint doing anything else, excpept patroling empty space, im sure they will be thrilled, and people like me in CAS, i have absolutly nothing to loose, we have no assets, and ewen if cought, with hand in sweet jar, well, so what, fun fight and a scrap bucket lost, its not like it cant be repalced anyway... BUT

what i dont get is, some of null and low sec people been crying to get more people out in null and low, isent this exactly what it does ?


Any chance of a few paragraphs?
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#51 - 2013-10-30 08:34:10 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Like I said before.. the impact of these unit on any null sec alliance with a decent TZ coverage will be minimal.


Yes, every alliance will have a 24/7/365 moon patrol that will watch each and every single one of their moons. Constant vigilance in every corner of the null bloc's space will be the word of the day. Roll

Which will not happen, I mean you can say it over and over again but fact is it wont. Cool


You don't need constant eyes on every moon in your space. You simply have somebody scout them once in a while.

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Fey Ivory
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2013-10-30 08:36:04 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
Fey Ivory wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Mhax Arthie wrote:
I agree that Rubicon would be called a patch in any other mmo, only in EVE is called expansion for some weird reason.

But also I have to ask.. what's wrong in taking stuff from the rich and give it to people in need?! I thought that BoB attitude was bad. Anyway, many Brave people will be very happy in a couple of weeks....nom, nom.... shinnnnnyyyy!!1!


Learn to read..

There will be no taking from the rich.

There will only be the rich getting richer and the small getting kicked in the balls


oki, systems need to be traveled and mapped out, what makes you think its already not been done ?, most null systems ewen with valuable assets, IS empty, simply couse the big ones, if attacked, gets warning, muster fleet and respond... Now we face a new situation, these people need to activly , check their assets and the moons, they need to be patroled, checked, it will be hours upon hours of dread, i kind of piety those that have to do this, while people that have no assets can take a cloaked ship and just leave and check in once in awhile and see traffick, and when calm drop a siphon, the difrence is i know when i move, while those having to defend against it, have to make people do hours upon hours of boring work in empty space, the silence is a killer, so ya if its done, well then those people alot aint doing anything else, excpept patroling empty space, im sure they will be thrilled, and people like me in CAS, i have absolutly nothing to loose, we have no assets, and ewen if cought, with hand in sweet jar, well, so what, fun fight and a scrap bucket lost, its not like it cant be repalced anyway... BUT

what i dont get is, some of null and low sec people been crying to get more people out in null and low, isent this exactly what it does ?


Any chance of a few paragraphs?



apologice, my main laguage isent english, so take it for what it is, i think most inteligent beings can decipher and get what i mean
Karak Terrel
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#53 - 2013-10-30 08:37:47 UTC
Mara Tessidar wrote:
Anomaly One wrote:

So disrupting low operations raises prices more than disrupting larger, more profitable operations?


I think you should leave the question of "what's going to happen to moon mineral prices if the supply is disrupted by x amount" to the people who understand how moon minerals actually work. People like Mynnna and Aryth, for example.

This "t2 prices will explode" is pretty much the same line of reasoning whining the afk miners use to defend their afk income. The broken thing here are this afk gold mines and it is about time something happens, even if it's a very very small thing like this siphons that will probably have no impact anyway.
PotatoOverdose
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#54 - 2013-10-30 08:38:08 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
Christ a couple of guys in each TZ is going to be enough.

Yes, a couple of guys will keep track of all the moons in fountain alone. Yup. Mhmmm. I think we're done here. Lol
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#55 - 2013-10-30 08:39:15 UTC
Where are these fabled gold mines?

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Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2013-10-30 08:40:37 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Christ a couple of guys in each TZ is going to be enough.

Yes, a couple of guys will keep track of all the moons in fountain alone. Yup. Mhmmm. I think we're done here. Lol


****, more pos ops.......
Mara Tessidar
Perkone
Caldari State
#57 - 2013-10-30 08:48:10 UTC
Jake Warbird wrote:
Where are these fabled gold mines?


It's tech, man, haven't you heard how much money we're making with them these days?

Of course, lost in all the noise generated between "people who own moons" and "people who think they know what owning moons is like" is the fact that the rest of this expansion is so light on game content it's like spreading fat-free mayonnaise on the sandwich of Eve.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#58 - 2013-10-30 08:48:25 UTC
PotatoOverdose wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Christ a couple of guys in each TZ is going to be enough.

Yes, a couple of guys will keep track of all the moons worth siphoning in fountain alone. Yup. Mhmmm. I think we're done here. Lol


FTFY

Heck, the alliance could simply offer a token bounty for every siphon unit blown up in their space, that will keep the bored null sec sheep occupied while their favourite FC isn't online.

The best possible time to run siphon units will probably be West Coast USA prime. Good luck with that. At least small organised groups of black ops will have a chance of achieving something: not sure how a few minutes of siphoning dyspro here and there is going to compare to button-spinning in faction warfare though.

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Mara Tessidar
Perkone
Caldari State
#59 - 2013-10-30 08:49:33 UTC
Bonus question: how long will it take a Rubicon-speed interceptor with warp rigs to check all the major celestials in a given system in Deklein for siphons using directional scanner?
Kristina Rin
Squid Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#60 - 2013-10-30 08:52:41 UTC
Quick question : what does the word " expansion " mean in Eve Online ?

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