EVE General Discussion

Caldari get the shaft....AGAIN!


Weapon & Defense System Mastery

In the beginnig each race had a flavor and to that end each was master of at least 1 weapon system. That is to say, other races may have had a special niche in another race's system but only one race had dominance. Let's look.

Amarr- They were energy weapon masters, armor resist masters, and capacitor masters. No other race could surpass them in those areas for range or damage using energy weapons or buffer armor tanks.

Minmatar- They were the projectile weapon masters, active shield tank masters, alpha masters, and speed/agility masters (as well as kite masters). Others could fit thier (zero capacitor use) weapons, but only Minnies had the robust teacking and rate of fire bonuses to make them work damned well.

Gallente- They were masters of dual systems. Hybrids-No other race did more pure damge. Drones- No other race could do more damage, had more application, hit points, bandwidth or range. They were also masters with respect to active armor tanking.

Caldari- They too were dual system masters. Hybrids-They had longest range with this system. Missiles- The were best at damage, application, and range when it cames to this system. They wee also masters at passive and buffer shiela tanks Caldari ships are restricted to the lowest drone bandwidth. Some arguements for this are based on the fact that missiles have the most consistent damage.

Amarr Mk 2

Some time ago Khanid ships became endowed with missile system mastery. Thaey got damage bonuses that exceeded Cakdari ships with respect to rainbow damage. The outcries where loud.

CCP's response was to restrict this new missile damage superipority only short range missiles.

Guristas Mk 2

Guristas ships have a changed focus to drone damage. As a result their missile damage is dramatically reduced at the same time. Forum warriors equate this to the old "reliable damage" paradigme previously stated.


Typhoon Unleashed

Typhoon becomes a missile beast.Despite this fact it also benefits from a superior drone bay which makes Caldari pilots drool. CCP offers no explanation for why Raven pilots can not also be afforded such a generous drone bay. Forum warriors point to the missile range bonus as the reason.


Gloves Come Off Khanid

Seemingly unoticed to all of evedom, Rise and Fozzie have transferred the superior rainbow damage of Khanid ships. They will now do bonused rainbow damage to both long and short ranged missiles in just about all ship types while Caldari missile ships (missile masters) are limited to a healthy bonus to ONLY kinetic DAMAGE IN MOST CLASSES.


Meanwhile, none of those khanid ships have had their drone bays nerfed to caldari levels.



MORE TO COME!

TLDR: Eve is being homogenized, and there is little distinction between what each race does well.

How do you know when you are on to something? You get the Tippia Troll to dawns its ugly head.

How's tricks Tippia?

Can you please proofread your post? There are spelling and grammatical errors in abundance, which lead me to wonder if this isn't just a rant that you threw together in a fit of pique.

I believe you have a point: due to the historical missile focus of Caldari ships (Merlin, Kestrel, Condor, Caracal, Drake, Raven, Phoenix) it pains me to see Minmatar and Amarr ships arguably doing better in the role of missile-based combat ships. And yes, Tippia, the Merlin was originally a dual weapon ship just like the Rifter was projectile/missile based many years ago.

Point well made.

I tend to take both my vodka and posts seriously. In that order

so let me get this straight OP.

you're crying because winmatar and facemelte are better?

And the first is mandatory. The second is optional =)

Salut!

Caldari are indeed getting the shaft. Typhoons match Ravens in most cases with missile damage, but have more drones and bandwidth to use them so I'm training minni BS now...The former king of missiles Battleship isn't the king anymore.
OK the Navy version of the Raven is still pretty win, but that's been changed to be quite different from its normal T1 version.

The Phoenix could seriously use a major boost its only good for hitting POSes and POCOs and some times Capitals unlike the BLAP Moroses out there...

I have removed some spammy comments from this thread.

While Tippia is correct, in that Caldari were never a "missile-dedicated" race and that missiles were always meant to be a supplementary weapons system, it is a bit of an arse that Caldari are a pretty poor race overall.