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Narcotic Gryffin
Digital Mercenaries Inc.
#1 - 2013-10-29 16:53:56 UTC
So I've gotten bored of solo roams and blob roams. I'm looking at just doing a small roam with 2 buddies and I, preferably frigs to cruisers. Any suggestions on a fleet comp where each ship compliments the next? Race and weapon system doesn't matter I just want to get some ideas I'm far more used to running solo than making a fit to compliment my wing man's ship.

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Chessur
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#2 - 2013-10-29 16:57:14 UTC
Narcotic Gryffin wrote:
So I've gotten bored of solo roams and blob roams. I'm looking at just doing a small roam with 2 buddies and I, preferably frigs to cruisers. Any suggestions on a fleet comp where each ship compliments the next? Race and weapon system doesn't matter I just want to get some ideas I'm far more used to running solo than making a fit to compliment my wing man's ship.


Any combination of the following:

RLML Caracal, Scythe Fleet, Cerberus, Ishtar, Nomen, Oracle, Rail Thorax / Rail Diemos
Flyinghotpocket
Small Focused Memes
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#3 - 2013-10-29 16:59:43 UTC
there is litterly infinite amounts of combinations either in single race only or multi race gangs. be creative, know your enemy

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Major Killz
inglorious bastards.
#4 - 2013-10-29 19:25:03 UTC
To BE HONEST. I've been thinking about rocking 2 rooks and 1 Keres for some time now.

3 Cruor would be interested too but I'll stick with 2. I've been thinking about rocking blood raider a lot more. P sure a Cruor and 2 Ashimmu can do good things together. Esp with fed navy webs.

Also wanted to f*ck with dual Phantasms too. There's a lot of things you can come up with to pass the time ingame.

[u]Ich bin ein Pirat ![/u]

Major Killz
inglorious bastards.
#5 - 2013-10-29 19:32:31 UTC
Oh! Do a 3 blaster-Arazu roam. They have one damp each and faction scram and rest is tank. That's something I wanted to do 2 months ago but I was to lazy to organize and me and bro did Blaster falcon roam instead.

Each Arazu should do like 500 dps and have 35 - 40 ehp. Can always do 1 Keres and 2 sentinels too or Bhaalgorn, Proteus and Loki combo. Bhaalgorn always brings the boys to the yard Ugh

[u]Ich bin ein Pirat ![/u]

Violet Crumble
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#6 - 2013-10-30 03:29:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Violet Crumble
If this is your main and your friends are of similar age, you might not quite have the skills for it yet, but a good frig combination would be:

enyo/ishkur
malediction
kitsune

ECM, tackle, assault and at range. These 3 together give a lot of flexibility to a small gang

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Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#7 - 2013-10-30 05:54:02 UTC
2 young ladies, 1 beverage container of your choice.

Otherwise known as 2 x shield curse + scimitar.
Magormor
Homicidal Suicidal
#8 - 2013-10-30 12:15:19 UTC
Major Killz wrote:
To BE HONEST. I've been thinking about rocking 2 rooks and 1 Keres for some time now.

3 Cruor would be interested too but I'll stick with 2. I've been thinking about rocking blood raider a lot more. P sure a Cruor and 2 Ashimmu can do good things together. Esp with fed navy webs.

Also wanted to f*ck with dual Phantasms too. There's a lot of things you can come up with to pass the time ingame.


this man is officaly the end of all eve. 2 Rooks and a Keres........almost as bad as a sabre + Falcon....
Danny John-Peter
Blue Canary
Watch This
#9 - 2013-10-30 12:40:17 UTC
2 Ham Cerbs and a Huginn.
2 Oracles and an RLML Cerb/Nano Zealot/Nano Nomen.
2 Talos and an RLML Cerb/Nano Zealot/Nano Nomen.
About a billion other possible combinations.
Major Killz
inglorious bastards.
#10 - 2013-10-30 14:46:09 UTC
Magormor wrote:
Major Killz wrote:
To BE HONEST. I've been thinking about rocking 2 rooks and 1 Keres for some time now.

3 Cruor would be interested too but I'll stick with 2. I've been thinking about rocking blood raider a lot more. P sure a Cruor and 2 Ashimmu can do good things together. Esp with fed navy webs.

Also wanted to f*ck with dual Phantasms too. There's a lot of things you can come up with to pass the time ingame.


this man is officaly the end of all eve. 2 Rooks and a Keres........almost as bad as a sabre + Falcon....


F*CK YEAH! Lol

[u]Ich bin ein Pirat ![/u]

Yun Kuai
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-10-30 15:13:02 UTC
Well I'll reply since everyone here seems to think you have to kite to be effective.

Armor brawler frigs/destroyers/cruisers work just fine and in fact have more fun fights.
You can do AB brawling vexors with a RSD in the 4th midslot with a Celestis running quad damps. You're AB but you will **** on everyone one of those wankers above this post since they'll all run boost and stay out at 30km to kill you. You force them in close to fight and then you gank them since they have awful tanks.

You can't kill what you can't lock....

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Heather Cole
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#12 - 2013-10-31 01:15:33 UTC
Yun Kuai wrote:
Well I'll reply since everyone here seems to think you have to kite to be effective.

Armor brawler frigs/destroyers/cruisers work just fine and in fact have more fun fights.
You can do AB brawling vexors with a RSD in the 4th midslot with a Celestis running quad damps. You're AB but you will **** on everyone one of those wankers above this post since they'll all run boost and stay out at 30km to kill you. You force them in close to fight and then you gank them since they have awful tanks.

You can't kill what you can't lock....


Sadly I don't have much to contribute to the thread, I just want to point out that while you raise a semi valid point, insulting someone for their play style is something a three year old would do. Do mummy and daddy know you're on the internet?

THAT SAID.

You wouldn't beat a kiting gang with that fleet comp, because the kiting gang would disengage.

I can be found here: anothereveblog.tumblr.com Alternatively I can be found decloaking 15K to your aft. Bombs away!

Mnemosyne Gloob
#13 - 2013-10-31 01:35:04 UTC
Heather Cole wrote:
disengage.


That's the whole point. 'Winning' by warping out.
Heather Cole
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#14 - 2013-10-31 01:38:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Heather Cole
If I come across someone with the paper to my rock, I'm not going to stick around and see if maybe I can crush it just this once, I'm gunna get out of there and find me some scissors.
That's why everyone is suggesting kiting. It gives you to option to say **** that noise and live to fight another day. What happens when an armour AB gang, literally incapable of escaping a glacier, comes across something capable of ruining its day?

I can be found here: anothereveblog.tumblr.com Alternatively I can be found decloaking 15K to your aft. Bombs away!

IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#15 - 2013-10-31 01:51:37 UTC
Yun Kuai wrote:
Well I'll reply since everyone here seems to think you have to kite to be effective.

Armor brawler frigs/destroyers/cruisers work just fine and in fact have more fun fights.
You can do AB brawling vexors with a RSD in the 4th midslot with a Celestis running quad damps. You're AB but you will **** on everyone one of those wankers above this post since they'll all run boost and stay out at 30km to kill you. You force them in close to fight and then you gank them since they have awful tanks.

You can't kill what you can't lock....



Spot on man. There are wankers everywhere.

There is this one Gallente dude who used to boost in a T3 in Innia until it sploded on it's trip home to Eha.
Now he is using an Eos and he almost even managed to lose that on the undock twice yesterday.
What makes it funny is how he crys when people use the same tactics as him.
Do you know the guy I am talking about?

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Chessur
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#16 - 2013-10-31 04:01:50 UTC
Logi in a 3 man gang, is total fail. You need every single bit of DPS you can get from your pilots, besides the fights you would get in that setup would be so terrible.

Brawling in 3 ships is not fun, when the majority of eve will bring 6+ to come kill you. Brawling is a horrible tactic, it always has been and will be for small gang.
Danny John-Peter
Blue Canary
Watch This
#17 - 2013-10-31 09:08:43 UTC
Chessur wrote:
Logi in a 3 man gang, is total fail. You need every single bit of DPS you can get from your pilots, besides the fights you would get in that setup would be so terrible.

Brawling in 3 ships is not fun, when the majority of eve will bring 6+ to come kill you. Brawling is a horrible tactic, it always has been and will be for small gang.


Chessur the broken record.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#18 - 2013-10-31 13:29:39 UTC
Chessur the dude who AWOXed in FW for his kills knows what he's talking about. Shoot people who can't shoot back at you because of stupid FW mechanics.

There's nothing wrong with logi in 3 man gangs. You do not need all the DPS. You need enough to drop the enemy you chooose to engage, and the logi lets you engage more foes.

The reason I suggested 2 Curses is the flexibility that 38km neuts, HML's, 2km/s, and logi gives you. That doesn't mean you can automagically take on everything or turn every fight into a total whitewash. It's one Scimi, if it gets hard tackled and ganked, you're boned. It keeps your Curses alive, their neuts break the tackle on the Scimi, and the hardeners and MWDs of everything prusuing you. Magic.

But magic that requires skill.

Falcon doesn't require skill.
Chessur
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#19 - 2013-10-31 13:32:02 UTC
Danny John-Peter wrote:
Chessur wrote:
Logi in a 3 man gang, is total fail. You need every single bit of DPS you can get from your pilots, besides the fights you would get in that setup would be so terrible.

Brawling in 3 ships is not fun, when the majority of eve will bring 6+ to come kill you. Brawling is a horrible tactic, it always has been and will be for small gang.


Chessur the broken record.


COme up with something more creative to insult me with, I am 100% correct in my statement.
Chessur
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#20 - 2013-10-31 13:36:24 UTC
Trinkets friend wrote:
Chessur the dude who AWOXed in FW for his kills knows what he's talking about. Shoot people who can't shoot back at you because of stupid FW mechanics.

There's nothing wrong with logi in 3 man gangs. You do not need all the DPS. You need enough to drop the enemy you chooose to engage, and the logi lets you engage more foes.

The reason I suggested 2 Curses is the flexibility that 38km neuts, HML's, 2km/s, and logi gives you. That doesn't mean you can automagically take on everything or turn every fight into a total whitewash. It's one Scimi, if it gets hard tackled and ganked, you're boned. It keeps your Curses alive, their neuts break the tackle on the Scimi, and the hardeners and MWDs of everything prusuing you. Magic.

But magic that requires skill.

Falcon doesn't require skill.


Confirming that all of my 3.5k+ Kills are all awox. Stop being bad, and have ships on your overview. Last time I checked, you can shoot back at me.

There is something wrong with logi in a 3 man gang. You are harshly limiting the gangs of simmilar size that want to fight you. Either people will bring more, because of the logi- or they will not engage because they see that logi. Now if i saw you on D scan ofc I would come to kill you, but I am more agressive than the average PvPer. That being said, if you want more fights- dont bring ECM or logi ships. The idea of finding and getting fights is to make yourself look engageable.

Curses have no DPS, and are scary to most things. 2X curse + logi is a horrible gang concept.
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