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SomerBlinks's RL earning: 135,000 dollars plus received in exchange for isk incentives

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RAW23
#1 - 2013-10-28 19:51:01 UTC  |  Edited by: RAW23
http://nosygamer.blogspot.com/2013/10/somerblink-somer-clone-and-gtcs.html

or

http://themittani.com/features/more-135k-somer-finances-investigated

Hardly just website maintenance income eh? The figure of 135k is what the owner of Shattered Crystal states Somer earned from him up to May 2013. Monthly earnings since then can be expected to be considerably higher, since a) Somer seems to have moved to Markee Dragon in exchange for a bigger cut of the profit, and b) Somer has been receiving huge boosts from CCP in recent months.


The key info:

Quote:
Another thing that Mr. Hutchinson told me was how much SOMERblink made from affiliate fees. SOMERblink was an affiliate of Shattered Crystal from 29 September 2010 to 9 May 2013 and made approximately $135,000. From looking at the records during this time, Mr. Hutchinson told me that the referrals from SOMERblink accounted for approximately one-third of all of Shattered Crystals sales (not profit) across all products. That includes game time codes, other cash cards and even copies of games for games like World of Warcraft and Guild Wars 2.


One of the things I like about this story is how eve-appropriate it is. It seems pretty clear that Shattered Crystal is pouring fuel on the current fire because they are pissed off about losing Somer's business (a third of their total referrals) to a higher bidder. This appears to be their payback for Somer's attempt to strongarm them. Metamarket pvp.

*This post has been edited to respond to some requests in the thread below.

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#2 - 2013-10-28 19:52:24 UTC
If articles on themittani.com aren't good enough to get read by themselves, don't post them in GD to help them along.




Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#3 - 2013-10-28 19:53:10 UTC
So the penalty for RMT is free Ishukone Scorpions?

The Tears Must Flow
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#4 - 2013-10-28 19:53:11 UTC
Care to post the relevant bits instead of shilling for an ad farm?



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RAW23
#5 - 2013-10-28 19:53:27 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
If articles on themittani.com aren't good enough to get read by themselves, don't post them in GD to help them along.






I am a well-known fan of all things goon. What can I say? I just like to help them out.

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.
RAW23
#6 - 2013-10-28 19:55:23 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Care to post the relevant bits instead of shilling for an ad farm?





Just noticed the original source for the article. Now added to the OP.

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.
Luci Ambrye
The Service Crew
#7 - 2013-10-28 19:55:44 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Care to post the relevant bits instead of shilling for an ad farm?





So, given this information, how much real life cash is SOMERblink making per billion ISK given out for purchasing GTCs? These factors have to be accounted for:

An 8% commission means SOMERblink receives $1.60 for each 30-day GTC and $2.80 for each 60-day GTC sold.
SOMERblink gives out 200 million ISK for each 60-day GTC and 100 million for each 30-day GTC sold.
SOMERblink gives out a 200 million ISK bonus for every 4 60-day GTC sold.
The only way to cash out is to win blinks. The house pays out an average of 80% of money bet.

Take those factors into account and SOMERblink makes between $14-$20 per billion ISK given out. That ranges from the prices I see on some forums dedicated to RMT all the way up to the lowest cost commercial RMT sites I monitor, which currently is $17.64/billion ISK.

nuff said imo.
Alt Two
Caldari Capital Construction Inc.
#8 - 2013-10-28 19:59:00 UTC
Quote:
Another thing that Mr. Hutchinson told me was how much SOMERblink made from affiliate fees. SOMERblink was an affiliate of Shattered Crystal from 29 September 2010 to 9 May 2013 and made approximately $135,000. From looking at the records during this time, Mr. Hutchinson told me that the referrals from SOMERblink accounted for approximately one-third of all of Shattered Crystals sales (not profit) across all products. That includes game time codes, other cash cards and even copies of games for games like World of Warcraft and Guild Wars 2.

At least now we know why CCP keeps ignoring the obvious RMT. If Somer makes that kind of money CCP are making even more from it.
Movarer
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2013-10-28 20:01:40 UTC
Luci Ambrye wrote:
Doc Fury wrote:
Care to post the relevant bits instead of shilling for an ad farm?





So, given this information, how much real life cash is SOMERblink making per billion ISK given out for purchasing GTCs? These factors have to be accounted for:

An 8% commission means SOMERblink receives $1.60 for each 30-day GTC and $2.80 for each 60-day GTC sold.
SOMERblink gives out 200 million ISK for each 60-day GTC and 100 million for each 30-day GTC sold.
SOMERblink gives out a 200 million ISK bonus for every 4 60-day GTC sold.
The only way to cash out is to win blinks. The house pays out an average of 80% of money bet.

Take those factors into account and SOMERblink makes between $14-$20 per billion ISK given out. That ranges from the prices I see on some forums dedicated to RMT all the way up to the lowest cost commercial RMT sites I monitor, which currently is $17.64/billion ISK.

nuff said imo.



You have to take in to consideration that many many many people dont cash the money out but "gamble" it, he can then sell the same isk over and over again until someone actually does cash it out. With a 20% cut every time it runs through another blink it adds up.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#10 - 2013-10-28 20:03:30 UTC
Alt Two wrote:
Quote:
Another thing that Mr. Hutchinson told me was how much SOMERblink made from affiliate fees. SOMERblink was an affiliate of Shattered Crystal from 29 September 2010 to 9 May 2013 and made approximately $135,000. From looking at the records during this time, Mr. Hutchinson told me that the referrals from SOMERblink accounted for approximately one-third of all of Shattered Crystals sales (not profit) across all products. That includes game time codes, other cash cards and even copies of games for games like World of Warcraft and Guild Wars 2.

At least now we know why CCP keeps ignoring the obvious RMT. If Somer makes that kind of money CCP are making even more from it.


That's a bingo!


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Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
#11 - 2013-10-28 20:03:53 UTC
Alt Two wrote:
Quote:
Another thing that Mr. Hutchinson told me was how much SOMERblink made from affiliate fees. SOMERblink was an affiliate of Shattered Crystal from 29 September 2010 to 9 May 2013 and made approximately $135,000. From looking at the records during this time, Mr. Hutchinson told me that the referrals from SOMERblink accounted for approximately one-third of all of Shattered Crystals sales (not profit) across all products. That includes game time codes, other cash cards and even copies of games for games like World of Warcraft and Guild Wars 2.

At least now we know why CCP keeps ignoring the obvious RMT. If Somer makes that kind of money CCP are making even more from it.


Roundabout 2,5M$$ to be precise.

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Jove Death
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-10-28 20:05:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Jove Death
SOMERBLINK is mostly alts anyway

Big smile

Actually heres an edit. On CCP Guards main post at the top of this forum he looked into changing SOMER blinks stuff.


Soo nice kick in the face from SOMERBLINK there actually giving away CCP Guards corpse as one of the prizes What?

Quoting "you will die" in EvE is fail Chars dont die in EvE. Unless you have a heart attack eek.
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#13 - 2013-10-28 20:07:59 UTC
Baali Tekitsu wrote:
Alt Two wrote:
Quote:
Another thing that Mr. Hutchinson told me was how much SOMERblink made from affiliate fees. SOMERblink was an affiliate of Shattered Crystal from 29 September 2010 to 9 May 2013 and made approximately $135,000. From looking at the records during this time, Mr. Hutchinson told me that the referrals from SOMERblink accounted for approximately one-third of all of Shattered Crystals sales (not profit) across all products. That includes game time codes, other cash cards and even copies of games for games like World of Warcraft and Guild Wars 2.

At least now we know why CCP keeps ignoring the obvious RMT. If Somer makes that kind of money CCP are making even more from it.


Roundabout 2,5M$$ to be precise.



Or, approx 14K players subbed for one year.

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RAW23
#14 - 2013-10-28 20:09:37 UTC
Doc Fury wrote:
Baali Tekitsu wrote:
Alt Two wrote:
Quote:
Another thing that Mr. Hutchinson told me was how much SOMERblink made from affiliate fees. SOMERblink was an affiliate of Shattered Crystal from 29 September 2010 to 9 May 2013 and made approximately $135,000. From looking at the records during this time, Mr. Hutchinson told me that the referrals from SOMERblink accounted for approximately one-third of all of Shattered Crystals sales (not profit) across all products. That includes game time codes, other cash cards and even copies of games for games like World of Warcraft and Guild Wars 2.

At least now we know why CCP keeps ignoring the obvious RMT. If Somer makes that kind of money CCP are making even more from it.


Roundabout 2,5M$$ to be precise.



Or, approx 14K players subbed for one year.



Accounts, to be pedantic Blink

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.
Dalmont Delantee
Gecko Corp
#15 - 2013-10-28 20:14:08 UTC
OK lets put this into context shall we:

Every bloody fan site/fan source/etc makes money if they are popular.

Lets see - Wowhead, sims resources, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc

Somerblink is just really popular and so he potentially makes a lot of money from his GTC affiliation, now so does alliances, and other sites this way.

You are all just hissy fitting over feck all and are just shooting yourselves in the foot over nothing.
Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
#16 - 2013-10-28 20:14:54 UTC
or 135k $ recieved for computer programing , web application development and billions of isk tranfered to players as a rebate for active customers of the service which trades in game assets ? The source of isk is clear too.. come from their fee's in game.


Can I see the argument on the other side calling it RMT ? yes I can see the connection and it is a rational argument.

An important point of consideration of starkly apposing ways to look at it would be

the question of s of

--- "how scalable is this" .. does this open the door to a full , unlimited RMT?

... does this encourage/ risk some of the worst ILLS of the RMT like account theft? (the clear source of the isk given as incentives as royalties to the in game lotto vastly reduces that possibilty)


I'm not entirely against your points.. but it would be misleading to say "This is a knowing sanction of RMT" They see it differently and see the particulars of the transfer between players , the $ commision any GTC seller gets, and the various ways other GTC sellers promote their sales as not starkly different.

Corporations make $ to pay for their servers etc by encouraging theier members to purchase the GTC from the corp site. Corps have ship replacement programs etc .

Is that exactly the same? No.. but it is less starkly different than if Somer did not have a truly active in game presence and was ONLY offering the rebate without providing in-game entertainment that encouraged using them for GTCs out of more than just the rebate.

.... just not black and white. Strong specific truths. People will weigh differently.

.
Bernie Nator
Seal Club Six
Plug N Play
#17 - 2013-10-28 20:15:24 UTC
God, seriously, go give a damn about something that matters.
RAW23
#18 - 2013-10-28 20:16:03 UTC
Dalmont Delantee wrote:
OK lets put this into context shall we:

Every bloody fan site/fan source/etc makes money if they are popular.

Lets see - Wowhead, sims resources, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc

Somerblink is just really popular and so he potentially makes a lot of money from his GTC affiliation, now so does alliances, and other sites this way.

You are all just hissy fitting over feck all and are just shooting yourselves in the foot over nothing.


The difference being, of course, that Somer gives people isk in exchange for the referral money.

There are two types of EVE player:

those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not.
Luci Ambrye
The Service Crew
#19 - 2013-10-28 20:16:39 UTC
Dalmont Delantee wrote:
OK lets put this into context shall we:

Every bloody fan site/fan source/etc makes money if they are popular.

Lets see - Wowhead, sims resources, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc

Somerblink is just really popular and so he potentially makes a lot of money from his GTC affiliation, now so does alliances, and other sites this way.

You are all just hissy fitting over feck all and are just shooting yourselves in the foot over nothing.


so CCP supporting RMT with certain entities and banning others doing it is feck all?

hmm okay, after you with the waccy baccy.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2013-10-28 20:16:41 UTC
greed is good
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